Why are Muslims obsessed with asking Allah for things?

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Re: Why are Muslims obsessed with asking Allah for things?
Reply #30 - January 02, 2012, 11:41 AM

Quote from: Sakura02 on January 01, 2012, 09:33 PM
Lol thanks for the responses. I think I was more taken aback by Praying for yourself rather than others. I know growing up in church you spend more time praying for others, rather than praying for something for yourself. Especially something materialistic and superficial. I could not be happy knowing that God grants my wish for a perfect husband (As my Muslim friend constantly makes Duaa) knowing that somewhere someone has an abusive husband, despite praying and being devout all the same. I think praying for yourself is selfish, because I was taught to be grateful for what you have/ work hard to obtain what you want.

And further more all the poor people in the world suffering. It is not god who answers their prays but other people who come to their aid, yet god gets all the credit. the most reknown charities in the world are either run/started by aetheist or Christians. Such as the Red Cross.

Christian's pray for things for themselves too, as part of my theology course I had to attend 2 different churches, a catholic one and a Christian one, and both times when discussing prayer the priest described it as a time to ask god for things for YOURSELF, anybody who prays and experiences a hard time in life will pray for themselves....even the Jews pray for themselves if you think about. The prayer for Israel/zion is a prayer for yourself, that you as a Jew will see the magical Israel in your lifetime.

You know how many christian fb statuses I see with "please everybody keep me in your prayers today, my mum is sick/dying" etc etc?

As if asking others to pray for you is somehow less selfish than just praying for yourself.

I don't even believe in god, but you will find me saying things in my head like "please please please let me make it through this room spinning/want to vomit" part of being drunk. Who do I say please please please to? no one, but the plea is there anyway.

When you experience hardship, fear, anxiety, hope, many people often find themselves hoping (praying) for a good outcome.

I agree that prayer means nothing, how does one persons prayer get answered but another's doesn't, and the whole 'where was god' arguement, but I don't agree that the selfish aspect of prayer/hope is something only muslims are obsessed with.

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Re: Why are Muslims obsessed with asking Allah for things?
Reply #31 - January 02, 2012, 12:35 PM

Quote from: BerberElla on January 02, 2012, 11:41 AM
Christian's pray for things for themselves too, as part of my theology course I had to attend 2 different churches, a catholic one and a Christian one, and both times when discussing prayer the priest described it as a time to ask god for things for YOURSELF, anybody who prays and experiences a hard time in life will pray for themselves....even the Jews pray for themselves if you think about. The prayer for Israel/zion is a prayer for yourself, that you as a Jew will see the magical Israel in your lifetime.

You know how many christian fb statuses I see with "please everybody keep me in your prayers today, my mum is sick/dying" etc etc?

well you said it Kahina....you said it., That is fundamental difference Judo-Christan Prayers and Islamic prayers

Judo-Christan or even Pagans pray for themselves to better their lives.. their children or their near and dear/., where as in the case of Islam Often these prayers are for CURSING sending opponents and other who question Islam in to hell in this life and after this life.. They do these things in home as well as in Mosques .. It is much more prevalent in mosques because these bearded baboons, Mullahas and imams who pick up silly cursing verses from Quran or silly stories from Hadith...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x774LjsivGk

Pathetic fool.. Singing songs in Arabic means getting hories and honey rivers in after life..

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Re: Why are Muslims obsessed with asking Allah for things?
Reply #32 - January 02, 2012, 02:33 PM

Alecta, was that picture really necessary?

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Re: Why are Muslims obsessed with asking Allah for things?
Reply #33 - January 03, 2012, 08:14 PM

I don't think there is a more materialist worldview than Islam.

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Re: Why are Muslims obsessed with asking Allah for things?
Reply #34 - January 03, 2012, 08:23 PM

But they do not seem very good at being materialistic - why the poverty and illiteracy levels?

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Re: Why are Muslims obsessed with asking Allah for things?
Reply #35 - January 03, 2012, 08:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IKkfBKLApY

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Re: Why are Muslims obsessed with asking Allah for things?
Reply #36 - January 03, 2012, 08:43 PM

Quote from: moi on January 03, 2012, 08:23 PM
But they do not seem very good at being materialistic - why the poverty and illiteracy levels?

I mean as an ideology. Poverty and illiteracy are symptomatic of other political/cultural issues and not unique to Muslim societies.

Though, I suppose you could argue that orthadox Islam hinders the flow of non-Islamic wisdom and thus hinders innovation, and also that it strangles cultural, spiritual, moral progress by being crystalised with flaws and wrongness.

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