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  • Atheist philosopher pulls hoax on theology conference
     OP - September 25, 2012, 01:47 PM



    Read this. Its f'kin brilliant  Smiley

    +++++


    Atheist philosopher pulls Sokal-style hoax on theology conference

    Belgian philosopher Maarten Boudry




    I know many rationalists are sceptical of the intellectual value of theology (I'll say no more - one to debate in the comments), so I thought I'd share an amusing story I just read on the blog of evolutionary biologist Jerry Coyne.

    I'm sure many of you will be familiar with the Sokal Hoax but, for those who aren't a summary: at the height of postmodernism's academic popularity in 1996, the New York University physics professor Alan Sokal submitted a paper to the cultural studies journal Social Text entitled "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity".

    So far, so intellectual. Except Sokal's article was not a serious work of critical theory, but rather, "a pastiche of Left-wing cant, fawning references, grandiose quotations, and outright nonsense". Or "bollocks", as it's sometimes known in the trade.

    You can read more about the Sokal Hoax, which triggered a fascinating debate about the value of postmodern philosophy and the academic standards involved, all over the web (since we're on the subject of academic standards, why not start with Wikipedia?). But for the purposes of this post, the reason I mention it is because a Belgian philosopher, Maarten Boudry, has just pulled a similar hoax on the discipline of theology.

    As Boudry, who is a a research fellow in the Department of Philosophy and Moral Sciences at Ghent University, explained in an email to Coyne, he "wrote a spoof abstract full of theological gibberish (Sokal-style) and submitted it to two theology conferences, both of which accepted it right away".

    His abstract, entitled "The Paradoxes of Darwinian Disorder. Towards an Ontological Reaffirmation of Order and Transcendence" and published under the pseudonym Robert A. Maundy, was even published in the program for the Reformational Philosophy conference held at VU University in Amsterdam last year (see page 42 - PDF link). And to cap it all off, the fake Dr Maundy hailed from the non-existent College of the Holy Cross in Reno, Nevada.

    You can read the full abstract on Coyne's blog, or in the programme linked to above, but to give you a sense of what it involves, here's an extract:

    "In the Darwinian perspective, order is not immanent in reality, but it is a self-affirming aspect of reality in so far as it is experienced by situated subjects. However, it is not so much reality that is self-affirming, but the creative order structuring reality which manifests itself to us. Being-whole, as opposed to being-one, underwrites our fundamental sense of locatedness and particularity in the universe. The valuation of order qua meaningful order, rather than order-in-itself, has been thoroughly objectified in the Darwinian worldview. This process of de-contextualization and reification of meaning has ultimately led to the establishment of ‘dis-order’ rather than ‘this-order’. As a result, Darwinian materialism confronts us with an eradication of meaning from the phenomenological experience of reality."

    Theological genius, I'm sure you'll agree.

    http://blog.newhumanist.org.uk/2012/09/atheist-philospher-pulls-soakl-style.html

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  • Re: Atheist philosopher pulls hoax on theology conference
     Reply #1 - September 25, 2012, 02:14 PM

     Cheesy

    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Atheist philosopher pulls hoax on theology conference
     Reply #2 - September 25, 2012, 03:55 PM

     hahaha hahaha


    Quote
    So far, so intellectual. Except Sokal's article was not a serious work of critical theory, but rather, "a pastiche of Left-wing cant, fawning references, grandiose quotations, and outright nonsense". Or "bollocks", as it's sometimes known in the trade.


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  • Re: Atheist philosopher pulls hoax on theology conference
     Reply #3 - September 25, 2012, 04:55 PM

    It is worth reading all that Holy Hoax Abstarct
      
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     The Paradoxes of Darwinian Disorder. Towards an Ontological Reaffirmation of Order and Transcendence.
        Robert A. Maundy,  College of the Holy Cross, Reno, Nevada

        In the Darwinian perspective, order is not immanent in reality, but it is a self-affirming aspect of reality in so far as it is experienced by situated subjects. However, it is not so much reality that is self-affirming, but the creative order structuring reality which manifests itself to us. Being-whole, as opposed to being-one, underwrites our fundamental sense of locatedness and particularity in the universe. The valuation of order qua meaningful order, rather than order-in-itself, has been thoroughly objectified in the Darwinian worldview.

    This process of de-contextualization and reification of meaning has ultimately led to the establishment of ‘dis-order’ rather than ‘this-order’. As a result, Darwinian materialism confronts us with an eradication of meaning from the phenomenological experience of reality. Negative theology however suggests a revaluation of disorder as a necessary precondition of order, as that without which order could not be thought of in an orderly fashion. In that sense, dis-order dissolves into the manifestations of order transcending the materialist realm. Indeed, order becomes only transparent qua order in so far as it is situated against a background of chaos and meaninglessness.

    This binary opposition between order and dis-order, or between order and that which disrupts order, embodies a central paradox of Darwinian thinking. As Whitehead suggests, reality is not composed of disordered material substances, but as serially-ordered events that are experienced in a subjectively meaningful way. The question is not what structures order, but what structure is imposed on our transcendent conception of order. By narrowly focusing on the disorderly state of present-being, or the “incoherence of a primordial multiplicity”, as John Haught put it, Darwinian materialists lose sense of the ultimate order unfolding in the not-yet-being. Contrary to what Dawkins asserts, if we reframe our sense of locatedness of existence within a the space of radical contingency of spiritual destiny, then absolute order reemerges as an ontological possibility. The discourse of dis-order always already incorporates a creative moment that allows the self to transcend the context in which it finds itself, but also to find solace and responsiveness in an absolute Order which both engenders and withholds meaning. Creation is the condition of possibility of discourse which, in turn, evokes itself as presenting creation itself. Darwinian discourse is therefore just an emanation of the absolute discourse of dis-order, and not the other way around, as crude materialists such as Dawkins suggest.


    locatedness, de-contextualization and reification ... crude materialists  Cheesy Cheesy
    Terrfic words in that abstract., That is exactly what these new age gurus do,  play with word sophistry,.. Any ways many of you guys are in Science fields, so on the way read that Alan Sokal's trick of paper writing

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  • Re: Atheist philosopher pulls hoax on theology conference
     Reply #4 - September 25, 2012, 05:06 PM

    Trolls, take notes.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Atheist philosopher pulls hoax on theology conference
     Reply #5 - September 25, 2012, 09:28 PM

    Nice stunt, but it wont have any effect on the theologians. Most of them will just scoff at the organisations that accepted the abstract, while pretending that they themselves would never be taken in. They'll also say that obviously True Theology TM is a completely different kettle of fish which obfuscates elucidates fundamental and highly important truths. parrot

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  • Re: Atheist philosopher pulls hoax on theology conference
     Reply #6 - September 25, 2012, 09:37 PM

    mihhaaaaahhhhhhhhhha
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