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  • Muslim Gangs in UK Prisons
     OP - October 20, 2013, 05:40 PM

    Britain’s prisons facing ‘growing problem’ of forced conversion to Islam, officers warn:

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    British prisoners are increasingly being forced to convert to Islam by their fellow inmates, the prison officers’ union has warned.

    Muslim gangs are growing in power and influence among prisoners, and there are concerns that they are targeting vulnerable new arrivals – making prisons a breeding ground for extremism.

    “It is a concern, and there’s been clear evidence from a variety of different incidents. Young men are being targeted and then coerced into converting to Islam,” the association’s general secretary, Steve Gillan, told Sky News.

    One woman, whose brother is being bullied by a gang trying to force him to convert, told the broadcaster: “He just looks like a broken man ... he's tearful on visits. I'm just really scared for him. He's been physically assaulted. He's had black eyes. In the showers, he got threatened with a knife. He's not going to back down. He's not going to convert for anyone.”

    Joe Chapman, a former prison officer who now acts as a prison law consultant, said he thought the situation was deteriorating.

    “I think it could be a huge problem. Previously I'd probably only worked in about a dozen or so prisons as an officer, but this job takes me to 40 or 50 over the year, throughout the country. It's become obvious to me that it's a growing problem.

    “About half a dozen of my clients have directly reported problems with being forced to convert ... those that weren't Muslim when they came in and those that were and have been forced to look at more radical ideas about their faith.”

    The former Home Secretary Lord Reid told Sky News that the sense of protection of being in a gang made them appealing to new arrivals, and described jail as “a very, very fertile ground for recruitment and proselytization and radicalisation”.

    A Ministry of Justice spokesperson said: “Faith can have a very positive influence on prisoners and can play an important role in rehabilitation, but it must never be misused as a way of coercing vulnerable prisoners into criminal behaviour.

    “We are never complacent about bullying in prisons and take a zero tolerance approach to tackling victimisation of any kind.”


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britains-prisons-facing-growing-problem-of-forced-conversion-to-islam-officers-warn-8892645.html

    Cannot believe it! The audacity of Muslims in prison is insulting. I had heard the Muslim prison population grew but now we can see one explanation as to why! I am a strong believer in rehabilitation. Hopefully some of these people who are forced to convert or being bullied could hopefully be released quicker and put into rehabilitation (if the crime was petty and harmless that is!) so as to get away from these extremist thugs. And perhaps MoJ should keep their two beady eyes on this growing issue...
  • Muslim Gangs in UK Prisons
     Reply #1 - October 21, 2013, 12:05 AM

    This has been known for a while. Other than separating them like the Irish separated catholic and protestant prisoners, I can't see a workable solution aside from imams insisting islam isn't violent 24/7. Don't even think that'd work.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Muslim Gangs in UK Prisons
     Reply #2 - October 21, 2013, 12:23 AM

    bah. A lot of them write down they are muslims so they can better food, five breaks and still have christams dinner.

    OZ - prison drama - very good
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7w49aAaweA

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Muslim Gangs in UK Prisons
     Reply #3 - October 21, 2013, 03:01 AM

    This has been known for a while. Other than separating them like the Irish separated catholic and protestant prisoners, I can't see a workable solution aside from imams insisting islam isn't violent 24/7. Don't even think that'd work.

     

    I can think of workable solutions to make them behave. Probably not legal though.


    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Muslim Gangs in UK Prisons
     Reply #4 - October 21, 2013, 03:04 AM

    Only thing that'd work is to take the Irish approach, and I can't see that happening any time soon.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Muslim Gangs in UK Prisons
     Reply #5 - October 22, 2013, 01:50 PM

    I saw this pop up in the papers the other day and just thought 'meh' same story being rehashed, with the same sort of title.  It was growing then, it was an epidemic, it was dangerous...and that it faded out, only to be rehashed the next time round with the same panic attached to it.

    I agree that whilst in prison, any conversion is mostly for the perks attached to it. 

    If these so called converts somehow come out of prison and maintain it, then tell me something, until then all you are doing is highlighting the practice of prisoners trying to survive, with no real focus on the prisoners, and the people they need to become to survive the prison experience.  Rather just focuses on the Islam link as a way to panic the populace. 


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Muslim Gangs in UK Prisons
     Reply #6 - October 22, 2013, 02:04 PM

    .........................

    I agree that whilst in prison, any conversion is mostly for the perks attached to it. 


    Conversion in to Islam in prison is NOTHING to do with Islam ., It is indeed Perks, joining a  group.. playing/praying with  a group  also creates safety to individuals ..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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