Hamza Tzortzis the Extreme Islamist

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Reply #60 - March 14, 2014, 11:58 PM

apparently this bellend has now moved on to "consciousness" after being thoroughly dismantled on every think else
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Reply #61 - March 15, 2014, 01:11 AM

He has moved to philosophy because he can hide behind it's obscurity which he couldn't when he tried to use science.

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Reply #62 - March 15, 2014, 12:28 PM

^ Just like how his god of the gaps now hides, quivering in terror, before the Big Bang, its territory slowly pushed and peeled back by science.
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Reply #63 - March 15, 2014, 12:47 PM

Quote from: Qtian on March 15, 2014, 01:11 AM
He has moved to philosophy because he can hide behind it's obscurity which he couldn't when he tried to use science.

don't worry., that tortoise fool will realize Greeks philosophy was far more advanced and higher order than what he reads in Quran /hadith., The only thing we need is freedom of expression to call IDIOTS as IDIOTS...

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Reply #64 - March 15, 2014, 12:56 PM

Watching the video with him screaming and shouting against western imperialism and capitalism, it shows me that his supposed “miracles” were only afterthoughts, attempts to justify the convictions that really get his motor running.

Like so many converts, it is not about the miraculous nature of the Qur’an or the supremacy of Islamic theology. Those things come later. It is all about a sense of “injustice” and seeing Islam as an alternative to the “Western” ideals they believe have caused this injustice. I’ve seen it countless times among converts, including in my own family. Once you’ve committed, you’ve got to find a way of justifying your choice. Suddenly, the Qur’an needs to be full of miracles and Islamic Monotheism becomes the only model that you can admit works.
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Reply #65 - March 15, 2014, 02:00 PM

he's ex Hizb ut Tahrir. That's all it ever was about for him. Hizb ut Tahrir, the Islamic fascist party. The da'wah stuff was just a 'change in strategy' from him.

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Reply #66 - March 17, 2014, 03:27 PM

Billy I wouldn't say he's ex Hizb-ut-Tahrir at all. HT like the EDL don't register or have a list of every member. Apart from the top one or few public figures at the top you don't have "official members", HT like the EDL have regulars who turn up at their events and rallies....and you don't require membership to turn up.

Also when in Australia recently, Tzortzis debating partners in his 2 debates........one is openly the head of HT Australia and the other is also openly a prominent HT.
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Reply #67 - March 17, 2014, 03:39 PM

he is ex Hizb ut Tahrir. That's a fact. He admits it. He doesn't explain why he now has a different worldview, he just says he's moved on.

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #68 - March 17, 2014, 03:46 PM

Many EDL members also say they aren't racist.

The only reason he says he is ex HT is to detach himself from being regarded as an extremist, it's all strategic. If you can't see through his bullshit that's up to you.

Put it this way, if you was ex-BNP would you choose 2 BNP members as your debating partners for your side if you were sincerely no longer associated to the BNP ?

Also these 2 HT members he had on his debating side were gushing over him on social networks about how they had spent days with him enjoying his company and similar thoughts.
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Reply #69 - March 17, 2014, 03:55 PM

mate, I've sent you a PM please respond.

I think you've got it twisted a little - I agree with you that he's positioning himself strategically regarding HuT

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