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OP - June 08, 2014, 11:04 PM

hi
" every child when born is muslim by default "
this is the claim muslim scholers make. lets take it in setails;
1 - if every born baby is muslim by default, why they say azaan in the ears of newborns to make them muslims?? a ritual that is observed eachtime a child is born in a muslim family.
2 - why is that a baby has to be circumsized to make them muslim??
they say you are not a muslim if you are not circumsized.
3 - how many years a child remain a muslim after his birth? i mean a baby born in a non muslim family remains muslim until 12 or 15 or until the day he is baptized into another religion.
4 - obviously when he is baptized, he is not asked for his consent.
why muslims say a word on this "forced conversion"?
5 - when you google muslim population stats of the world, it says 1.5 billion or somthing. do they include these " muslims by default" children?
if not; why?

these are the questions i am looking answers for.
my language skills are very poor; i dont know if i have made you understand...

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Reply #1 - June 09, 2014, 12:04 PM

I have only one sentence for you. Islam is an illogical religion.
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Reply #2 - June 09, 2014, 12:07 PM

I have moved this topic, as the sub forum you posted it in, is for questions relating to the forum, and issues with it.

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Reply #3 - June 09, 2014, 12:59 PM

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1 - if every born baby is muslim by default, why they say azaan in the ears of newborns to make them muslims?? a ritual that is observed eachtime a child is born in a muslim family.

Humans like rituals/traditions. We invent things to mark something special (baptism, birthday, marriage, etc).

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2 - why is that a baby has to be circumsized to make them muslim??
they say you are not a muslim if you are not circumsized.

No one is born circumcised, and it's even haram to alter/mutilate allah's creation. It's one of many contridictions.

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3 - how many years a child remain a muslim after his birth? i mean a baby born in a non muslim family remains muslim until 12 or 15 or until the day he is baptized into another religion.

There's difference of opinion.

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4 - obviously when he is baptized, he is not asked for his consent.
why muslims say a word on this "forced conversion"?

Why don't they mention being forced to be a muslim? Both answers are equally stupid.

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5 - when you google muslim population stats of the world, it says 1.5 billion or somthing. do they include these " muslims by default" children?
if not; why?

It will depend on who's asking.

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`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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