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  • Cameron defends letter to Mosques
     OP - January 19, 2015, 12:21 PM

    PM David Cameron defends letter to Islamic leaders

    David Cameron has defended a letter urging senior Muslims to explain how Islam "can be part of British identity", amid criticism from leaders.

    The Muslim Council of Britain said the letter appeared to suggest - "like the far right"- that Muslims and Islam were inherently apart from British society.

    Mr Cameron said the letter, written by Communities Secretary Eric Pickles, was "reasonable, sensible and moderate"

    The letter was sent to 1,000 Muslim leaders after the attacks in Paris.

    The prime minister said Mr Pickles was "absolutely right" to write the letter urging leaders to do more to tackle extremism.

    "Anyone who reads this letter - and I've read the letter - will see that what he is saying is that British Muslims make a great contribution to our country, that what is happening in terms of extremist terror has nothing to do with the true religion of Islam," he said. "It's being perverted by a minority who have been radicalised.

    "Anyone reading this letter, who has a problem with it, I think really has a problem."

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  • Cameron defends letter to Mosques
     Reply #1 - January 19, 2015, 01:14 PM

    The mosques where preachers who genuinely incite hate, like the worst Salafi ones, won't take any notice. And the radicalisation doesn't take place in mosques much anyway. Its online, in study groups, with organised extremists taking their message out there in a variety of ways.

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  • Cameron defends letter to Mosques
     Reply #2 - January 19, 2015, 01:21 PM

    And in Madrassas and the like which are influenced in some way or other by Saudi Wahabbi Islam.
  • Cameron defends letter to Mosques
     Reply #3 - January 19, 2015, 01:35 PM

    Waiting for reactions from British Muslims popcorn

    The mosques where preachers who genuinely incite hate, like the worst Salafi ones, won't take any notice. And the radicalisation doesn't take place in mosques much anyway. Its online, in study groups, with organised extremists taking their message out there in a variety of ways.

    True for Denmark as well. Even the most hardcore Mosques can't be connected directly, albeit perhaps theologically with all the anti-kuffar bigotry. It is the extra-Mosque activities that seem to be the root cause of the radicalisation going physical.

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  • Cameron defends letter to Mosques
     Reply #4 - January 19, 2015, 07:20 PM

    The mosques where preachers who genuinely incite hate, like the worst Salafi ones, won't take any notice. And the radicalisation doesn't take place in mosques much anyway. Its online, in study groups, with organised extremists taking their message out there in a variety of ways.

    Sure, but I think the point was that if mosques drum it into impressionable young buggers that blowing shit up and killing people is wrong, it may help.

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  • Cameron defends letter to Mosques
     Reply #5 - January 19, 2015, 07:36 PM

    I'm just reading the actual letter.

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    ...British values are Muslim values. Like all faiths, Islam and its message of peace and
    unity makes our country a better and stronger place...

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

    Anyway, apart from the occasional good joke, the letter is as moderately and politely worded as it possibly could be, AFAICT.

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  • Cameron defends letter to Mosques
     Reply #6 - January 19, 2015, 07:40 PM

    Love the ignorance of the Allah-fant in the room re.

    Quote
    ...British values are Muslim values. Like all faiths, Islam and its message of peace and
    unity makes our country a better and stronger place...


    MCB said it was inflammatory ... I read it, it was the most mild letter I have ever read.

    Govt. needs to realise Saudi is the source of the problem, no faith schools, control of classes at Mosques, and do not let Saudi or other gulf states fund mosques!
  • Cameron defends letter to Mosques
     Reply #7 - January 20, 2015, 04:15 AM

    PM David Cameron defends letter to Islamic leaders

    David Cameron has defended a letter urging senior Muslims to explain how Islam "can be part of British identity", amid criticism from leaders.
    ...........................................

    well  let us put that letter in its entirety.............
    Quote
    Assalamu Alaikum,

    We have recently seen terrible atrocities committed in Paris. Finding the right response to these events is a challenge for everyone. The hijacking of a great faith to justify such heinous crimes sickens us all. As Muslims around the world have made clear, such actions are an affront to Islam.

    And yet, amid the carnage, came a sign of hope – over three million people of all backgrounds, marching to defeat the gunmen and to protect our values: free speech, the rule of law, and democracy.

    We are proud of the reaction of British communities to this attack. Muslims from across the country have spoken out to say: not in our name.

    But there is more work to do. We must show our young people, who may be targeted, that extremists have nothing to offer them. We must show them that there are other ways to express disagreement: that their right to do so is dependent on the very freedoms that extremists seek to destroy. We must show them the multitude of statements of condemnation from British Muslims; show them these men of hate have no place in our mosques or any place of worship, and that they do not speak for Muslims in Britain or anywhere in the world.

    Let us assure you that the Government will do all we can to defeat the voices of division, but ultimately the challenges of integration and radicalisation cannot be solved from Whitehall alone. Strong community-based leadership at a local level is needed.

    You, as faith leaders, are in a unique position in our society. You have a precious opportunity, and an important responsibility: in explaining and demonstrating how faith in Islam can be part of British identity. We believe together we have an opportunity to demonstrate the true nature of British Islam today. There is a need to lay out more clearly than ever before what being a British Muslim means today: proud of your faith and proud of your country. We know that acts of extremism are not representative of Islam; but we need to show what is.

    British values are Muslim values. Like all faiths, Islam and its message of peace and unity makes our country a better and stronger place, and Britain would be diminished without its strong Muslim communities. Every day, mosques and other faith institutions across the country are providing help for those in need, and acting as a centre for our communities. It is these positive contributions that are the true messages of faith and it is these contributions that need to be promoted.

    We would also like to reassure you that in recent days we have met with police chiefs to make sure they are providing the support that mosques need, a concern that some of you have expressed in our recent discussions. We have also met with the Anti-Muslim Hatred Working Group to hear their concerns about responses to the recent attacks and what more can be done.

    Anyone experiencing violence should report it to the police online on the True Vision website or to TELL MAMA, a service to provide support specifically to Muslim victims of hatred. The vitriol espoused by the thugs of the English Defence League and Britain First is just as much an affront to British values as the teachings of preachers of hate.

    For organisations experiencing problems with such preachers, information about free legal advice is available from LawWorks at www.lawworks.org.uk/community-groups or the Bar Pro Bono Unit at www.barprobono.org.uk, and the Charity Commission has published a toolkit for charity leaders to help protect their organisations from abuse by extremists.

    We welcome your thoughts, ideas and initiatives on how to ensure that Islam's true message of peace triumphs over those who seek to divide our communities.

    Thank you for all the positive work you are doing, and we look forward to working with you further. We continue to appreciate all your insights.

    THE RT HON ERIC PICKLES MP

    LORD TARIQ AHMAD OF WIMBLEDON

     

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  • Cameron defends letter to Mosques
     Reply #8 - January 20, 2015, 06:41 AM

    Muslim Council of Britain objects to Pickles letter to Islamic leaders

    Muslim leaders accuse ministers of being like 'far right'



    Well Muslim folks instead following these Muslim leaders,  mosque preachers and rituals of Islam such as bending ass up in the sky and  head in to the sand, listening to these idiots in mosques.,  they should focus on reading Quran  and follow only Quran and be the leaders of their religion by themselves..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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