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  • Sinn Féin drops opposition to abortion in certain cases.
     OP - March 07, 2015, 05:55 PM

    Brilliant step! One small step for man, 1 giant leap for mankind!

    Sinn Féin drops opposition to abortion at Derry congress
    Henry McDonald Ireland correspondent
    Saturday 7 March 2015 22.45 GMT


    Party votes to support terminations in limited cases, such as pregnant women with fatal foetal abnormalities, in both Irish Republic and Northern Ireland

    Sinn Féin has dropped its historic opposition to abortion at its annual congress held in Derry.

    The party voted this weekend to support terminations in limited cases, such as pregnant women with fatal foetal abnormalities. This involves women whose babies will be born dead and who have to either go full term in Ireland or seek abortions across the Irish sea in Britain.

    The policy switch will apply to both the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland.

    Earlier on Saturday, Gerry Adams, the Sinn Féin president, said he was backing motions from delegates to support abortion in certain circumstances.
    “I have listened very intently to testimony from parents dealing with fatal foetal abnormalities. We have to be very compassionate about this.

    “Obviously, there are some women who want to continue with their pregnancy to full term and we need to support them, but there are others who feel they are not able to do that and we need to deal with both groups with the absolute maximum of support,” Adams said.

    The party, which the Adams-led leadership in the past vetoed any major debate or policy change on abortion, also voted for the repeal of the 8th Amendment to the Irish constitution. The 8th Amendment, passed by a referendum back in 1983, gives the foetus and embryo even at conception full constitutional rights in Ireland.

    However, Sinn Féin has not backed a pro-choice abortion stance advocated by hard left parties in the Irish parliament.

    During the party’s Ard Fheis (annual conference), Northern Ireland’s deputy first minister, Martin McGuinness, tried to counter accusations from political rivals that while Sinn Féin opposed austerity cuts in the Irish Republic it was implementing the same austerity policies in the power sharing executive in Belfast.

    McGuinness claimed that the Stormont House Agreement gained extra cash from the UK Treasury to cushion Northern Ireland against the effect of cuts to the region’s public sector.

    “We need to be very clear about the alternative if the institutions had collapsed – instead of our locally elected and accountable assembly we would have had rule by British Tories and the imposition of Thatcherite policies that no one here voted for or wants,” he told party delegates.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/07/sinn-fein-drops-opposition-to-abortion-at-derry-congress
  • Sinn F?in drops opposition to abortion in certain cases.
     Reply #1 - March 07, 2015, 07:18 PM

    And just to make things more interesting, our Attorney General recently advised the government that abortion in the case of fatal foetal abnormalities wasn't possible without repealing the 8th Amendment to our constitution.  So basically, SF have found a diplomatic way of saying they want to repeal the 8th Amendment without panicking rural Ireland.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Sinn F?in drops opposition to abortion in certain cases.
     Reply #2 - March 07, 2015, 07:31 PM

    So there'll continue to be a number of Savita Halappanavar's then. Fuck you Irish gov.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Sinn F?in drops opposition to abortion in certain cases.
     Reply #3 - March 07, 2015, 07:43 PM

    Savita Halappanavar's case already caused the Irish government to legislate to prevent the same thing happening again.  And they were able to do that because the 8th Amendment never criminalised abortion where the mother's life was in danger, it was the medical staff responsible for her who didn't understand the law.  Its now been made clear so the same thing doesn't happen again.


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  • Sinn F?in drops opposition to abortion in certain cases.
     Reply #4 - March 07, 2015, 08:00 PM

    According to the husband the doctors didn't act because "This is a catholic country".

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Sinn F?in drops opposition to abortion in certain cases.
     Reply #5 - March 07, 2015, 08:18 PM

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    According to the husband the doctors didn't act because "This is a catholic country".


    Nonsense.  The comment that "this is a Catholic country" was made to Savita by a nurse long before she was admitted to hospital with complications.  And none of that has anything to do with the fact that new legislation was passed in response to that case clarifying that abortion is allowed in cases such as hers. 

    And none of the above has anything to do with Sinn Féin's change in policy anyway, they've never been in government in Ireland, they're the opposition.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
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