The Wisdom of the Koran

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- Jack Torrance
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Reply #30 - April 10, 2015, 07:26 PM

Quote from: happymurtad on April 08, 2015, 06:03 PM
I don’t think the wisdom found in the Qur’an is necessarily unique to it. However, with the Qur’an being an incredibly important piece of human literature, particularly Arabic literature, and with me being a person who has studied Arabic and the Qur’an with an intense passion, I cannot help but to appreciate and identify with those elements of the book that I agree with.

I can respect that, and as someone else said - that explanation would have been all I needed to hear from people in the past trying to impress me with it's beauty/wisdom. There are a few passages, that I can kind of relate to if pushed, but nothing I wouldn't be too surprised to find in a fortune cookie either. Tbh, I really wanted to see the 'miracle of the koran', because I couldn't understand why people around me, that I loved/respected, had been so affected by it, and I couldn't believe it could really be a total lie, I felt it was my fault for 'not getting it'. That I afforded it that much respect, on trust, makes me feel kind of icky now.

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Reply #31 - April 10, 2015, 08:01 PM

I actually really get that. I think a lot of it also has to do with the fact that the Qur’an is memorized, practically drilled into your psyche. Parts of me wish I had never spent time memorizing it. Perhaps it really is not that profound in the grand scheme of things, but even now, even in the full-on heat of my disbelief, I’ll find myself taking a bite of a juicy bacon cheese burger and hearing in my head “Aww lahm al-khnziri fa innahu rijz - (Prohibited is) The meat of swine, for it is filth.” Or I’ll take a sip of a good craft beer and every now and again I’ll hear, “fa hal antum muntahoon? - Will you desist (from gambling and alcohol because they are the work of satan)?" Of course, I still bite the bacon burger and I still swallow the beer, but the Qur’an can really haunt you like that. I can almost understand why the early Meccans described the Muslims as being as if they were spell-bound.

It’s also why I can understand the competing forces at play in someone’s mind who used to be very religious. That stuff can take you over, like a drug. You’ve got to wean yourself off and be careful of potential relapses. It’s bigger than just your will sometimes.
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Reply #32 - April 10, 2015, 09:34 PM

"It’s also why I can understand the competing forces at play in someone’s mind who used to be very religious. That stuff can take you over, like a drug. You’ve got to wean yourself off and be careful of potential relapses. It’s bigger than just your will sometimes. "

I like the way you see things HM, and I can see now how similar it really is to a drug, and the relapsing - a relapsed junkie will always justify why they've used again, it feels like coming home, having that lovely warm blanket placed around your shoulders, being gently massaged 'welcome back, you can leave me as many times as you like, but I will never reject you.' Kind of thing - even when they know it is only going to lead to pain and suffering once they come down. What the conseqeunces of going back to religion are, I'm not sure, but what I do know is that rich junkies, that never actually needed to 'come down' , being able to afford to be out of it 24/7, begin to lose their soul and eventually arrive at a realisation (usually via the AA/NA cult) apart from say, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton...oh he didn't did he, he just bores people to death these days

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Reply #33 - April 10, 2015, 09:48 PM

Whatever works, man. Whatever works for you. So long as you're not harming anyone, and preferably, not harming yourself. Whatever helps you get by on this lonely little planet for these short couple of years we're here.
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