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  • Moods
     OP - July 18, 2015, 06:11 AM

    I am on a ride that likes to swing me to polar ends when I am truthful.

    This afternoon, my father wished me all the luck in the world when I went to my job interview.

    This evening, I was telling my mother that the plight of women in our culture is to wash dishes (as I was washing dishes, ironically), serve, and clean up after the men in our lives.

    My mother disagreed and said that no matter who I live with, it’s just common courtesy and consideration to clean from time to time. A fair point on her part - she likes to imagine reality differently from the way it actually is. That was when I pointed out to her that my father was in the living room watching the news, and my brother was downstairs playing video games, and I, my sister-in-law, and my mother were in the kitchen cleaning their dishes. Wouldn’t it be common courtesy for them to at least wash the one or two plates they ate off of? I then explained to her that they would never do it, because it’s emasculating for them. We are the women and we are expected to clean. If we don’t, we’re worthless.

    My father, having overheard this conversation, said, “If that’s the case, then don’t eat in this house.”

    I laughed and said, “Maybe I’ll stop paying rent, too.”

    Then he said, “One day your husband will beat you.” He said it in Arabic, and in a tone that implied he couldn’t wait for the day that another man would beat me into my place.

    Oh Baba, I haven’t let YOU beat me into submission. What makes you think I would ever let another man do it?

    "Nothing lasts forever. Even the stars die."

    A for Atheist
    A for Apostate
    A for Anonymous
    A for Aqua
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     Reply #1 - July 18, 2015, 09:54 AM

    That is truly disturbing.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Moods
     Reply #2 - July 18, 2015, 10:00 AM

    That is truly disturbing.

    no..No..Noooo QSD..

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    I laughed and said, “Maybe I’ll stop paying rent, too.”

    Then he said, “One day your husband will beat you.” He said it in Arabic, and in a tone that implied he couldn’t wait for the day that another man would beat me into my place.

    Oh Baba, I haven’t let YOU beat me into submission. What makes you think I would ever let another man do it?


    That narrative of Aqua tells me  "How smart and articulate  she is " and she seems to find ways to escape troubles..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Moods
     Reply #3 - July 18, 2015, 10:55 AM

    Then he said, “One day your husband will beat you.” He said it in Arabic, and in a tone that implied he couldn’t wait for the day that another man would beat me into my place.

    That's disturbing.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Moods
     Reply #4 - July 18, 2015, 11:03 AM

    That's disturbing.

    well that is the culture/society he grew up.. so he is just warning his daughter..  I still  give  some credit to Aqua's father....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Moods
     Reply #5 - July 18, 2015, 11:10 AM

    How does the fact it's culture make it less disturbing?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Moods
     Reply #6 - July 18, 2015, 11:25 AM

    How does the fact it's culture make it less disturbing?

    QSE   finmad    Cheesy



    well  i am an optimist QSE.,   it is less disturbing because  there is a generation gap   and I expect Aqua's father's son-in-law  Cheesy  will be different from Aqua's father or grand father .. because times are different..  it is 21st century..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Moods
     Reply #7 - July 18, 2015, 11:27 AM

    It's not less disturbing because of the generation gap.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Moods
     Reply #8 - July 18, 2015, 11:38 AM

    It's not less disturbing because of the generation gap.

    No no....   what I mean say was . NOT SUCH ACTIONS ARE LESS DISTURBING...

    such beating up of women folks by their husbands will not occur  as frequently as it used to be in the older generations  because of  social awareness .. education ..etc..etc..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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     Reply #9 - July 18, 2015, 11:48 AM

    I do not agree that wife beating is less likely to occur in places where there is education and social awareness. I live in such a country.
    Our scientists had been doing TBI (traumatic brain injury) research on soldiers and athletes who play American football, a limited study, as it naturally excludes women.
    They estimated that the pool to study TBI among women is many times larger than the population they are currently using for research, because domestic violence is so very common here.
    They are kicking themselves for limiting their data for so many years when there was so much more available.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Moods
     Reply #10 - July 18, 2015, 12:02 PM

    No no....   what I mean say was . NOT SUCH ACTIONS ARE LESS DISTURBING...

    such beating up of women folks by their husbands will not occur  as frequently as it used to be in the older generations  because of  social awareness .. education ..etc..etc..

    I don't give a shit about generational gaps. A parent looking forward to their child being beaten (probably of a regular basis) is sick and disturbing.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Moods
     Reply #11 - July 18, 2015, 12:06 PM

    I don't give a shit about generational gaps. A parent looking forward to their child being beaten (probably of a regular basis) is sick and disturbing.

     Huh! .. where did you get that from? 

    Did her father say "He is looking forward  to see his daughter beaten??

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Moods
     Reply #12 - July 18, 2015, 12:08 PM

    Then he said, “One day your husband will beat you.” He said it in Arabic, and in a tone that implied he couldn’t wait for the day that another man would beat me into my place.


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Moods
     Reply #13 - July 18, 2015, 12:13 PM

    Quote
    Then he said, “One day your husband will beat you.” He said it in Arabic, and in a tone that implied he couldn’t wait for the day that another man would beat me into my place.


    well  there  I still give benefit of doubt to her father but  this

    Quote
    My father, having overheard this conversation, said, “If that’s the case, then don’t eat in this house.”


    That will I NOT accept from any father... clearly  that is out of line and that  gentleman need to change  but I am still going to give benefit of doubt to him until Aqua says something on that other issue..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Moods
     Reply #14 - July 18, 2015, 12:30 PM

    "Gentleman"?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Moods
     Reply #15 - July 18, 2015, 12:35 PM

    "Gentleman"?

    Aqua being the member of this forum .. I respect her Quod..

    so that is the reason for that word ""Gentleman"  anyways it is Aqua  who need to rant and who need to be smart .. I am not there in that situation  but I was as a kid.. and I tell  you during those days of my life I was not smart ., I was angry raging super brat ..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Moods
     Reply #16 - July 18, 2015, 12:36 PM

    You and me both.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Moods
     Reply #17 - July 18, 2015, 12:45 PM

    You and me both.

     off course..

    anyways what I realized in my life with this domestic violence in homes is .. If father beats a boy or girl for some reason(NOT RELIGIOUS REASONS)   they will take it.. but he beats their loved ones.. such as their mother or grand mother .. then the kid's life will turn upside down.  Essentially such husbands/fathers are abusers  and family life of kids will get torn apart . those scars are hard to go from their minds

    I guess that is what is happened  with this guy in US of A http://www.cbsnews.com/news/claims-of-domestic-violence-in-home-of-suspected-chattanooga-gunman/

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Moods
     Reply #18 - July 18, 2015, 12:58 PM

    Have to go with yeezevee on this one. It's a horrible thing to say, even in a moment of anger or frustration with me. Still, my father never beat my mother, though there is just a weird patriarchal relationship in other ways, and my mother submits to it at times, and at other times she fights it.

    It's definitely disturbing, and it's not ok to say it. He's said a lot of bad things to me and my mother over the years. Yet, ironically, it's my father who told me I need to get my education and a job so I would never have to rely on a man. Realistically, if I ever married someone who beat the shit out of me, I can't imagine my father condoning it regardless of culture/generation gap.

    I appreciate your respect, yeezevee. It's true that I am ranting and I am trying to put these situations that would otherwise depress me, in a different, more empowering light.

    "Nothing lasts forever. Even the stars die."

    A for Atheist
    A for Apostate
    A for Anonymous
    A for Aqua
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     Reply #19 - July 18, 2015, 01:13 PM

    Have to go with yeezevee on this one. ...........

    Huh! what? only this one?  only posts of this folder?  what about rest of posts ??  are they chicken shit??    finmad finmad   bad girl....

    Anyways .. I can say this your father is not  a bad guy... it is just combination of his life when he was young .. and the frustrations  day to day  problems of life  might have made him to say some angry words..

    Just a bit of love from you and other members of your family will treat  his anger management problems..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Moods
     Reply #20 - July 18, 2015, 01:25 PM

    The way I like to see my father is a hardened pup who has had a challenging life. He doesn't know how to deal with a quickly changing world/culture that doesn't automatically respect him because of his maleness. I like to respond to outbursts like these with witty remarks and working hard towards a different future. A smile here and there seems to turn him into pudding, too.


    "Nothing lasts forever. Even the stars die."

    A for Atheist
    A for Apostate
    A for Anonymous
    A for Aqua
  • Moods
     Reply #21 - July 18, 2015, 01:46 PM

    It doesn't excuse violence.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Moods
     Reply #22 - July 18, 2015, 01:52 PM

    No, it doesn't.

    "Nothing lasts forever. Even the stars die."

    A for Atheist
    A for Apostate
    A for Anonymous
    A for Aqua
  • Moods
     Reply #23 - July 18, 2015, 04:32 PM

    Wow, sorry to hear you having to listen to that shit Aqua. Human behavior and psycholgy can be sickening.  far away hug

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Moods
     Reply #24 - July 18, 2015, 05:32 PM

    Human psychology is mind boggling. Today he kept telling me how beautiful I look and how proud of me he is on our way to Eid prayer. Can't tell if he feels bad about what he said yesterday or what.

    "Nothing lasts forever. Even the stars die."

    A for Atheist
    A for Apostate
    A for Anonymous
    A for Aqua
  • Moods
     Reply #25 - July 18, 2015, 07:51 PM

    Strange.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
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