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 Topic: Men: Jealousy = paradise

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  • Men: Jealousy = paradise
     OP - March 13, 2009, 12:39 PM

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    The prophet Muhammad saw said 'A Dayooth will not enter Jannah.' The Sahabah asked, 'Who is a Dayooth?' Rasoolullah sallallahu alaihe wasallam said, 'A man who does not care who visits his wife (i.e. men).'


    Quote
    "And the Dayyouth (the man with no jealousy over the women in his family) is the most vile of Allah's creation, and Jannah is forbidden for him, (because of his lack of Ghayrah - jealousy).


    finmad No wonder women are so oppressed. That bastard wouldn't even allow trust to reign in a relationship!! finmad The people on Ummah love it, they even have a 'wonderful' story to encourage jealousy-

    Quote
    On this topic, a famous historical incident is mentioned, so that males and females with a sense of honor and enthusiasm may know how the pious predecessors despised a woman unveiling her face before men, although in the following instance it was permissible to unveil the face. During the third century Hijri, the Qaadi (judge) of Rayy and Ahwaaz, Musa bin Ishaaq, sat to adjudicate people's disputes. Among the litigants was a woman who claimed five hundred dinars Mahr from her husband. The husband denied the claim. The Qaadi said to the husband, "Bring your witnesses." The husband said, "I have brought them." The Qaadi said to one of the witnesses, "Look at the wife so you may point her out during testimony." The witness stood up and said to the woman, "Stand." Upon this, the husband said, "What do you want from her?" The husband was told, "It is necessary that the witness sees your wife unveiled so that he may know that it is your wife." The husband detested his wife unveiling her face for the witnesses in public. He screamed, saying, "I make the Qaadi my witness that this Mahr of my wife is an obligation on me, and she must not unveil her face!" When the wife heard this, she thought it was wonderful that her husband disapproved of her unveiling her face before the witnesses, and was protecting her from the sight of people. She too screamed at the Qaadi, "I make you a witness that I have granted my Mahr to him, and have absolved him in this Dunyaa and the Aakhirah!" The Qaadi said to those around him, "Record this as a moral standard." - Taken from Tarbiyat Al-Awlaaad Fil Islaam

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206006

    This is disgusting! A man who trusts his wife wont even go to heaven!
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #1 - March 13, 2009, 12:45 PM

     Cheesy

    some fellows in S.A. 1/2-jokingly call me dayyooooth,


    No janna for me,  no

    "I'm Agnostic about God."

    Richard Dawkins
    ==
    "If there is a God, it has to be a man; no woman could or would ever fuck things up like this."
     George Carlin == "...The so-called moderates are actually the public relations arm of Al-Qaeda and the Islamic Republic of Iran."  Maryam Namazie
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #2 - March 13, 2009, 02:00 PM

    Cheesy

    some fellows in S.A. 1/2-jokingly call me dayyooooth,


    No janna for me,  no

    Oh well, janna sounds like shite anyway Tongue I'd rather rebel in hell!
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #3 - March 13, 2009, 02:06 PM

    Okay, when i was 8 years old i had a thought that was as follow:

    So, Satan rebelled against God. And God sent him down to Hell to reign there and punish the fallen souls.

    Okay, heres a point that bothered me when i was EIGHT!

    If Satan rebels against God, and God orders him to punish people, wouldnt a rebellious Satan treat them nice to piss god off?

    I mean, maybe Hell is not all bad because Satan made it a nice place with no rules like... you know, the usual Fundamentalist nonsense. Free Sex, Drugs and Rockn Roll or all.

    just to make god look stupid  grin12

    (I dont believe either the devil or god exists, bit for the sake of argument... you know)

    "We are never deceived, we deceive ourselves." - from Goethes Faust
    "Only the wisest and the stupidest men never change." - Confuzios
    "there is no religion of peace, only people who are peaceful while being religious."
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #4 - March 13, 2009, 02:09 PM

    That troubles me too DigDeep, Satan is just being God's slave.

    I've always wondered whether Satan is actually the good and logical guys in this story but God has twisted it around to make him seem like the bad guy.
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #5 - March 13, 2009, 02:17 PM

    That troubles me too DigDeep, Satan is just being God's slave.

    I've always wondered whether Satan is actually the good and logical guys in this story but God has twisted it around to make him seem like the bad guy.


    That would be the masterpiece of Propaganda!

    "We are never deceived, we deceive ourselves." - from Goethes Faust
    "Only the wisest and the stupidest men never change." - Confuzios
    "there is no religion of peace, only people who are peaceful while being religious."
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #6 - March 13, 2009, 02:19 PM

    Jealousy is pure man.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #7 - March 13, 2009, 02:20 PM

    Jealousy is pure man.

    My bf isn't the jealous type dance

    That troubles me too DigDeep, Satan is just being God's slave.

    I've always wondered whether Satan is actually the good and logical guys in this story but God has twisted it around to make him seem like the bad guy.


    That would be the masterpiece of Propaganda!

    The biggest conspiracy theory of all time! We should write a book Tongue
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #8 - March 13, 2009, 02:22 PM

    Then you got to get rid of him man, jealousy is good.  Tongue



    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #9 - March 13, 2009, 02:23 PM

    Mansur all-Hallaj contended that Satan was the best Muslim because he refused to prostrate to Adam (AS). He bowed only to Allah. He was crucified, chopped up and his bits thrown in the river for his ideas.

    The language of the mob was only the language of public opinion cleansed of hypocrisy and restraint - Hannah Arendt.
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #10 - March 13, 2009, 02:23 PM

    OMG - I just read that thread!  I can't believe the OP was posted by a woman and in her signature she actually wants to BRING BACK THE TALIBAN!!!  Boy, some people are really deluded!!!  mysmilie_977

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #11 - March 13, 2009, 02:36 PM

    Then you got to get rid of him man, jealousy is good.  Tongue

    Nah, in janna I have to share him with 72 whores. I prefer being in hell with him Wink Tongue

    OMG - I just read that thread!  I can't believe the OP was posted by a woman and in her signature she actually wants to BRING BACK THE TALIBAN!!!  Boy, some people are really deluded!!!  mysmilie_977

    There's no hope for these people.
    (I cant see her signature?  Huh?)
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #12 - March 13, 2009, 02:51 PM

    Then you got to get rid of him man, jealousy is good.  Tongue

    Nah, in janna I have to share him with 72 whores. I prefer being in hell with him Wink Tongue

    OMG - I just read that thread!  I can't believe the OP was posted by a woman and in her signature she actually wants to BRING BACK THE TALIBAN!!!  Boy, some people are really deluded!!!  mysmilie_977

    There's no hope for these people.
    (I cant see her signature?  Huh?)


    Look at the bottom of her posts.  It's in bold type.  You can't miss it...  So sad... Cry

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #13 - March 13, 2009, 03:11 PM

    Then you got to get rid of him man, jealousy is good.  Tongue

    Nah, in janna I have to share him with 72 whores. I prefer being in hell with him Wink Tongue

    OMG - I just read that thread!  I can't believe the OP was posted by a woman and in her signature she actually wants to BRING BACK THE TALIBAN!!!  Boy, some people are really deluded!!!  mysmilie_977

    There's no hope for these people.
    (I cant see her signature?  Huh?)


    Look at the bottom of her posts.  It's in bold type.  You can't miss it...  So sad... Cry

    Ah, I can see it now after I changed my settings. I'm currently skimming through her blog, she is also pro-life and against certain types of contraception -

    Birth control pills and all those hormone related methods of contraception work in the following ways. If you read the label it will tell you. 1)It changes the lining of the womb (makes the mucus thicker then normal) so that sperm cannot get in. 2) Changes the lining of the womb so eggs cant grow there.

    What this basically means is that, sperm cant get in because the mucus is too thick. HOWEVER if the sperm does get in and fertilize the egg, aka a baby is concieved, it cannot implant into the lining of the womb because the lining of the womb becomes shrivelled up and not hospitable. There for, your baby has no where to live so dies.


    Funny how she gives more meaning to a fertilised egg than to an alive animal which is halal to kill.
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #14 - March 13, 2009, 03:30 PM

    Notice how when one poster asks...isnt that the reason many muslim women are killed...because of jealousy from their men...and the original poster brushes aside the question with a mere..."thats taking it to the extreme"...

    so all those many many many muslim wives, sisters, and daughters that were killed because of the extreme jealous nature from their husbands, fathers, and brothers...are just victims of extreme jealousy...nothing to do with the religion of the culture that raises them to believe women cant be trusted  Huh?
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #15 - March 13, 2009, 10:56 PM

    Then you got to get rid of him man, jealousy is good.  Tongue



    good for who?

  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #16 - March 15, 2009, 06:33 AM

    Notice how when one poster asks...isnt that the reason many muslim women are killed...because of jealousy from their men...and the original poster brushes aside the question with a mere..."thats taking it to the extreme"...

    so all those many many many muslim wives, sisters, and daughters that were killed because of the extreme jealous nature from their husbands, fathers, and brothers...are just victims of extreme jealousy...nothing to do with the religion of the culture that raises them to believe women cant be trusted  Huh?


     Afro coolred38! I'd never thought of it like that!When Muslims oppose honor killings as a repulsive, un Islamic act,they always claim that there's nothing either in the Quran or hadiths to support such murders, which is also something I believed that honor killings are cultural, not religious. While I still accept that nowhere does the Quran or Hadiths mandate or even encourage honor killings, the Islamic belief that men ought to be jealous over their womenfolk, on pain of Hellfire no less seems like a pretty good stimulant to murder those women who have crossed the limits of male jealousy...

    Voltaire said, "Those that can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities", its an (ridiculous) absurdity that the Creator of the Universe cares about how jealous men are over their womenfolk to the extent that He'll burn non jealous men in Hellfire, & its an atrocity men commit when they kill their womenfolk as they've been raised to believe through their faith that its a religious obligation to be mightily jealous to reach Jannah  furious

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Men: Jealousy = paradise
     Reply #17 - March 15, 2009, 09:43 AM

    Ah, this explains the following piece of conversation I had on IRC one day:
    (nicks anonymously changed)

    Quote
    <me> i am from milan, italy
    <someone> milan a beautiful city
    <someone> it is also a fation city
    <me> milan is a business city with a lot of traffic
    <another> maybe capital of fashion of the world
    <fanatic> fashion or selling women?
    <fanatic> fashion or slavery?
    <fanatic> but in a modern way
    <me> they sell men too, then
    <me> fashion works both ways
    <fanatic> when the mukhanathun of men and mustarjilat man
    <another> what??..selling women and slavery???
    <me> but, i agree, i don't like the way they treat models
    <me> fashion models always seem quite unhappy :(
    <fanatic> yet they claim they are open minded
    <fanatic> and they have human rights
    <fanatic> they have shaytan rights
    <me> well, they are the cause of their own unhappiness
    <fanatic> alhamdullilah our women don't engage in such lame events
    <fanatic> because it is prohibited in our religion
    <fanatic> this kind of nonsense
    <me> like i said, it's not about women. it's the same for male models
    <fanatic> and you know because we are jealous men
    <fanatic> we feel jealous over our women
    <fanatic> unlike the non-muslims
    <fanatic> who if one of them sees his wife kissed on the cheek by a friend
    <fanatic> doesn't mind it
    <another> Fanatic,,,in muslim countries they have catwalks too...
    <fanatic> our women are covered and preserved because they are jewels
    <fanatic> they are not cheap merchandise
    <another> Istanbul fashion week, dubai fashion week, etc etc...
    <fanatic> yeah well
    <fanatic> the disbelievers will try and try
    <someone> muslin women r beautiful,misterious
    <fanatic> then they will be overcome
    <fanatic> then
    <fanatic> unto hell they will be gathered
    <someone> ?
    <another> ..and the arab shopping mall full of women buying posh cloths...
    <fanatic> as i said
    <fanatic> it is just a temporary thing
    <another> I think you should get informed
    <fanatic> when islam rules again
    <fanatic> all that filth will be removed
    <me> i see i should have never mentioned that i am from milan
    * me takes note
    <fanatic> (( but as for that which benefits the people, it  remains on the earth. Thus does Allah present e
    xamples. ))
    <fanatic> all the filth will go , all
    <someone> muslin women wear scarf to cover their face .
    <fanatic> yes
    <fanatic> they do
    <fanatic> kafir women
    <fanatic> don't wear a thing
    <someone> but they can't cover their pretty
    <fanatic> and if they wear anything
    <another> Fanatic, do you have any clues about what s oing on in countries like Bahrain, UAE or Qatar???
    <fanatic> it is like they are not wearing anything
    <fanatic> because their male relatives don't feel jealous
    <fanatic> you know they are like which animal
    <fanatic> the pig
    <fanatic> it is the only animal that doesn't feel jealous
    <someone> [fanatic] where  r u from ?
    <fanatic> i am not joking
    <someone> u speak dirty words    vomit
    <fanatic> i didn't mean to offend
    <girl> lol
    <someone> I think u r from another world
    <fanatic> it is a well-known fact
    <girl> Subhan'Allah.
    <fanatic> that the pig doesn't feel jealous
    <fanatic> because it is its nature
    <fanatic> study biology and you will know it
    <me> it's not the only animal that doesn't "feel jealous". there are plenty others
    <me> i doubt ants feel any jealousy, for example
    <fanatic> lol
    <fanatic> alhamdullilah for islam
    <fanatic> a muslim man doesn't accept that another looks at his woman
    <fanatic> let alone touch
    <fanatic> or kiss
    <someone> mad like to say such words ,offend other countries customs and culture
    <fanatic> what kind of customs are these?
    <someone> nonw of your business
    <girl> [someone] We do not agree with their customs, however, they are not muslim to realise what we are up
     to, or to be obliged to fellow us. (But make sure, that covering and morality, is in all religions).


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