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OP - March 25, 2009, 07:41 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/5047396/British-mother-jailed-for-adultery-in-Dubai-loses-custody-of-sons.html

Marnie Pearce, the British mother who was jailed for committing adultery in Dubai, has lost
custody of her two young children. The 40-year-old now faces not seeing her two sons - Laith, seven, and Ziad, four - until they are 18 and legally allowed to find her. The boys were placed with their father, Egyptian national Ihab El-Labban, after the custody hearing held in an Arab court on
Tuesday.
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Reply #1 - March 25, 2009, 07:53 PM

Poor woman. My heart goes out to her.

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Reply #2 - March 25, 2009, 07:58 PM

Wonder if the verdict would have been any different if her husband wasn't an Arab and/or Muslim.

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Reply #3 - March 25, 2009, 09:02 PM

Quote from: Nour on March 25, 2009, 07:58 PM
Wonder if the verdict would have been any different if her husband wasn't an Arab and/or Muslim.

Probably. Members of my family who live there tell me that the Arabs are very racist over there. Even to other Muslims like Pakistanis.

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Reply #4 - March 27, 2009, 04:17 PM

Quote from: Hassan on March 25, 2009, 07:41 PM
The 40-year-old now faces not seeing her two sons - Laith, seven, and Ziad, four - until they are 18 and legally allowed to find her. The boys were placed with their father, Egyptian national Ihab El-Labban, after the custody hearing held in an Arab court on
Tuesday.

But why does she face the possibility of not seeing her boys till they're 18? Isn't there something like one partner has custody & the other has visitation rights?

A parent may be barred from seeing his\her kid\s if they've physically threatened them, or sexually abused them or for some such conduct.

Is the law so different in Dubai that an adulterous woman also loses visitation rights?

In any case, its a truly sad situation.

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Reply #5 - March 27, 2009, 04:20 PM

Quote from: aliadiere on March 25, 2009, 09:02 PM
Quote from: Nour on March 25, 2009, 07:58 PM
Wonder if the verdict would have been any different if her husband wasn't an Arab and/or Muslim.

Probably. Members of my family who live there tell me that the Arabs are very racist over there. Even to other Muslims like Pakistanis.

I've heard this too from friends who have visite the ME and also from my Bengali (ex)husband who has been harassed by Arab airport security guards in Damascus.

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Reply #6 - March 27, 2009, 04:43 PM

Quote from: aliadiere on March 25, 2009, 09:02 PM
Quote from: Nour on March 25, 2009, 07:58 PM
Wonder if the verdict would have been any different if her husband wasn't an Arab and/or Muslim.

Probably. Members of my family who live there tell me that the Arabs are very racist over there. Even to other Muslims like Pakistanis.

Yeah I've heard the same. Foreign workers are often treated like second (or even third) rate citizens. Its funny how people in the west treat muslims better than the muslims' own brethren.
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Reply #7 - March 27, 2009, 05:53 PM

A large percentage of foreign women married to Arabs are denied even visitation rights to their children upon divorce...even if she has never done anything wrong. The usual reason is because she is in a foreign Arab country and requires her husband to sponsor her to be in that country legally...once they are divorced she is no longer sponsored by him and thus illegal and required to leave. This is a very huge factor that keeps many many women from pushing the divorce knowing full well they will likely loose contact with their children. It did me for many years.

Now...since she committed a crime according to Islam...she is viewed as an unfit parent...even if the crime had nothing to do with harming her children etc...so she is forbidden to have contact with them. Its times like this that see women resorting to having their own children kidnapped from that country and brought to their own country where the laws regarding custody of children arent so one sided.

Ironically...a wife trying to divorce her adulterous husband in the Arab world is damn near impossible...and almost never happens...and even if it does...he is almost never denied the right to see his children...or even denied custody of them...hypocrisy ya think
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Reply #8 - March 28, 2009, 07:02 AM

Quote from: coolred38 on March 27, 2009, 05:53 PM
A large percentage of foreign women married to Arabs are denied even visitation rights to their children upon divorce...even if she has never done anything wrong. The usual reason is because she is in a foreign Arab country and requires her husband to sponsor her to be in that country legally...once they are divorced she is no longer sponsored by him and thus illegal and required to leave. This is a very huge factor that keeps many many women from pushing the divorce knowing full well they will likely loose contact with their children. It did me for many years.

Now...since she committed a crime according to Islam...she is viewed as an unfit parent...even if the crime had nothing to do with harming her children etc...so she is forbidden to have contact with them. Its times like this that see women resorting to having their own children kidnapped from that country and brought to their own country where the laws regarding custody of children arent so one sided.

Ironically...a wife trying to divorce her adulterous husband in the Arab world is damn near impossible...and almost never happens...and even if it does...he is almost never denied the right to see his children...or even denied custody of them...hypocrisy ya think

I feel so angry when I think of those countries' laws. Muslim or Arab countries don't have a monopoly on violent or unworthy husbands & fathers- but what makes the situation worse in these nations is the impunity with which these men get away because the laws are so biased in their favor.

Have you read the book or seen the movie, "Not without my Daughter?" www.amazon.com/Not-Without-Daughter-Betty-Mahmoody/dp/0312925883
Its about an American woman married to an Iranian born Doctor, who comes to Iran thinking its a vacation & she & her daughter are held hostage in that country- just after the Khomeini Revolution. Her husband starts to physically abuse her, she's unable to divorce him as he'd have custody of the girl & she's can't think of leaving her daughter behind in that country with its misogynistic laws & her husband's fundie family. She finally escapes Iran & her perilous journey to America is described in the book.

Her ex husband has accused her of lying & I don't know the whole truth-but the book is worth a read & the movie is definitely worth a watch!

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Reply #9 - March 28, 2009, 05:56 PM

To be honest I feel no sympathy for women who marry men from very sexist cultures and end up being screwed over with no mercy when they move in a sexist-happy country.
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