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OP - December 03, 2009, 01:42 PM

ladies and gentlemen, tonight, as of 3rd december, i have choosen my belief (atheism) over of what would be my life partner. i, Li, have choosen to become an apostate for ever. They say, never turn your back on love, but i, Li, did just that. All i wanted is for the girl to be able to accept me for who i am. the girl is a muslim but, i am the apposite of her and i don't if i can get this feeling ever again. I have turn my back on love for my selfish self. I don't know if this was a wise move. that is all.
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Reply #1 - December 03, 2009, 01:45 PM

Hi li. Good choice imo.

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Reply #2 - December 03, 2009, 01:50 PM

you know, they say love requires sacrifice. But also the other person must accept his significant other for love to flourished in addition, i also don't want to lie towards myself any longer so, i think i have made a good choice. However, i still get this uneasy feeling that it's not a good one, and i don't know why.
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Reply #3 - December 03, 2009, 01:56 PM

Not a nice situation to be in. But if you feel that this is the right thing to do then it is the right thing to do. One cannot lie to oneself.
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Reply #4 - December 03, 2009, 02:25 PM

An uneasy decision but one that had to be made one way or the other. I'm sure given time you will feel better. Best of luck for the future.
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Reply #5 - December 03, 2009, 02:27 PM

Quote from: li on December 03, 2009, 01:42 PM
ladies and gentlemen, tonight, as of 3rd december, i have choosen my belief (atheism) over of what would be my life partner. i, Li, have choosen to become an apostate for ever. They say, never turn your back on love, but i, Li, did just that. All i wanted is for the girl to be able to accept me for who i am. the girl is a muslim but, i am the apposite of her and i don't if i can get this feeling ever again. I have turn my back on love for my selfish self. I don't know if this was a wise move. that is all.

I suppose you have both spoken about it? Did she give you an ultimatum? You can't be that in love to walk away because of her after life beliefs?

Ha Ha.
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Reply #6 - December 03, 2009, 03:23 PM

I'm not really sure where the decision was.
Did you decide to become an atheist or just realize that you are? Could you decide to become a believing Muslim again if you wanted? Was it her not accepting you as an atheist or you not accepting her as a Muslim or both?

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Reply #7 - December 03, 2009, 03:51 PM

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Did you decide to become an atheist or just realize that you are?

If you look at it honestly, I think those who are atheists simply realize that they are long before they let go of religion. It's just the length of admission one makes to themselves which is either quick or takes a long time.
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Reply #8 - December 03, 2009, 04:46 PM

Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on December 03, 2009, 03:51 PM
If you look at it honestly, I think those who are atheists simply realize that they are long before they let go of religion. It's just the length of admission one makes to themselves which is either quick or takes a long time.

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Reply #9 - December 03, 2009, 04:48 PM

I was never really an atheist. I genuinely believed in god and had faith. I still look back in awe at how different my way of thinking was.

I lost my faith in Islam first, then my faith in a personal god, then I finally I also shed any notions of deism/pantheism.

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Reply #10 - December 03, 2009, 05:12 PM

Quote from: Kafirist on December 03, 2009, 04:48 PM
I was never really an atheist. I genuinely believed in god and had faith. I still look back in awe at how different my way of thinking was.

I lost my faith in Islam first, then my faith in a personal god, then I finally I also shed any notions of deism/pantheism.

I'll ask a question that I think I've asked asked somewhere else on this forum. Do you think you had this thing called "Iman"? It was always presented to me as being different in meaning to "faith". Most muslims describe it as some sort of mechanism in the heart that increases with good works and it's Allah that does the increasing. Sins or deviating reduces it.
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Reply #11 - December 03, 2009, 05:25 PM

Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on December 03, 2009, 05:12 PM
I'll ask a question that I think I've asked asked somewhere else on this forum. Do you think you had this thing called "Iman"? It was always presented to me as being different in meaning to "faith". Most muslims describe it as some sort of mechanism in the heart that increases with good works and it's Allah that does the increasing. Sins or deviating reduces it.

Even though I was faithful and religious. I was never a literalist or fundamentalist. The whole concept and 'mechanics' of blessings that Muslims had with 'sawab' and 'iman' is not something I took very seriously. I always felt 'iman' simply meant true faith and conviction. Yes, I believed it would go up and down but in a very general sense, not on any specific increment based on specific deeds. So to me faith and iman were just a feeling of conviction and oneness. I guess I was more sufi inclined.

Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.
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