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 Topic: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!

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  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #90 - July 22, 2011, 06:01 PM
    Well, it would have been really stupid of him to actually go for the debate anyways.
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  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #91 - July 22, 2011, 06:14 PM
    Meet in person, wtf is this shit? dawah 101?
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #92 - July 22, 2011, 07:15 PM
    It's a shame about this. I think TR possesses the critical faculties to really shake the foundations of what Hamza calls 'the intellectual foundation of Islam'. The sad thing is that I do actually think Hamza is a learned & intelligent guy so why he can't see that Islam is just man made, 7th century mumbo jumbo I will never know. I think it may be the case that he has become far too engrossed in the whole thing for so long that consequently he has developed tunnel vision which does not allow him to recognize or admit the truth.
    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #93 - July 22, 2011, 07:20 PM
    My hunch is that Hamza is more seduced by the idea that he can convince people his argument is true, rather than actually being convinced by it himself.
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #94 - July 22, 2011, 07:42 PM
    I think you may be right TR but it is nonetheless sad to see people wasting their talents on propogating & promoting something which at its' core is clearly & fundamentally false. I wish more people, especially so from my own Pakistani origin community, would have the courage to argue against something solely on the basis of evidence which proves it to be false.
    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #95 - July 22, 2011, 07:53 PM
    Quote from: TheRationalizer on July 22, 2011, 07:20 PM
    My hunch is that Hamza is more seduced by the idea that he can convince people his argument is true, rather than actually being convinced by it himself.


    Maybe he wants to make love to you in private? 
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #96 - July 22, 2011, 08:00 PM
    Tut Tut! King tut! Thats's haram. He would'nt do that.
    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #97 - July 22, 2011, 08:07 PM
    Quote from: Homo Sapien on July 22, 2011, 08:00 PM
    Tut Tut! King tut! Thats's haram. He would'nt do that.


    He want's to meet him in private... it's the epic tash, it turns him on.
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #98 - July 26, 2011, 10:07 PM
    honestly i love hearing hamza speak. his voice is so... captivating  (even though what he's saying is crap lol)
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #99 - July 26, 2011, 10:29 PM
    Do you have a crush on him?
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  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #100 - July 27, 2011, 07:25 PM
    maybe just a little bit  001_wub
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #101 - July 27, 2011, 09:50 PM
    eww man.. His beard makes me wanna puke, Plus he is a jerk, specially when he said "we peacefully behead them".
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  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #102 - July 27, 2011, 11:37 PM
    Quote from: muddy on July 27, 2011, 09:50 PM
    eww man.. His beard makes me wanna puke, Plus he is a jerk, specially when he said "we peacefully behead them".


    Oh the irony, oh the spiteful harsh irony. mysmilie_977
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #103 - July 28, 2011, 10:23 AM
    Quote from: TheRationalizer on July 22, 2011, 07:20 PM
    My hunch is that Hamza is more seduced by the idea that he can convince people his argument is true, rather than actually being convinced by it himself.


    Thats funny because it rings true.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #104 - July 28, 2011, 10:32 AM
    Quote from: billy on July 28, 2011, 10:23 AM
    Thats funny because it rings true.


    It is also what I genuinely suspect.
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #105 - July 28, 2011, 10:46 AM

    To me it looks like there is a rapture in the act of declaring and 'debate' - it doesn't matter what is said, all that matters is the declarations of Islam. The process is the message. He's in ecstacy just by talking and it doesn't matter that its all bullshit. He exists on a different dimension to those he debates with.

    Its like a form of cognitive dissonance that seems at a stage to become public delusion - but to him that is the rapture of Islam. Its almost like the rapture that the Christian baptists get when they speak in tongues.

    Effectively, that is what dawah merchants like Tsoztis do - speak in tongues.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #106 - August 26, 2011, 09:01 AM
    Co-founder and vice-president of iERA is actually publicly accusing me of backing out of the debate with Hamza Smiley

    http://www.facebook.com/Saqibjsattar/posts/219900298058546
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #107 - August 26, 2011, 09:09 AM
    Holy shit Rationalizer, I didn't know you also write for The Richard Dawkins Foundation  Cheesy
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #108 - August 26, 2011, 09:17 AM
    Having a crappy discussion approved now and again doesn't quite match up to what is implied by the words "write for" Smiley
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #109 - August 26, 2011, 09:23 AM
    Quote
    he is exactly like my jewish christian mate David actually David is an atheist


    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #110 - August 26, 2011, 09:24 AM
    Why don't they debate online FFS? If they want to include other members besides Hamza, let them do that, but why can't they debate online? It's not a fucking date now, is it?

    PS: That's the new RDF forum, truth_seeker yes (I liked the old forum though, this sucks)


    Youtube
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #111 - August 26, 2011, 09:26 AM
    Have you never heard the expression "Judaism, the most atheistic monotheistic religion in the world"?

    I have heard Jews say "Most Jews are atheists" Smiley


    Quote from: crazyislam on August 26, 2011, 09:24 AM
    Why don't they debate online FFS? If they want to include other members besides Hamza, let them do that, but why can't they debate online? It's not a fucking date now, is it?


    Exactly, and who is it that keeps going on and on about the debate not happening?  Not me that's for sure, it's the people that are in the position to make it happen.  All they have to do is to honour the original agreement, they won't even need to dip into their "Big Debates" fund either Smiley


    Quote from: crazyislam on August 26, 2011, 09:24 AM
    PS: That's the new RDF forum, truth_seeker yes (I liked the old forum though, this sucks)


    I really dislike the new one too.  I wish they would fix it.
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #112 - August 26, 2011, 09:53 AM
    I'm okay with Jewish atheists, but I've never heard of Christian Jewish atheists Tongue
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #113 - August 26, 2011, 10:11 AM
    if you  were to debate him how would you respond to all the long winded, psuedo intellectual, psuedo philosophical waffle?
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #114 - August 26, 2011, 10:12 AM
    I'd wing it Smiley
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #115 - August 26, 2011, 10:21 AM

    They have been profoundly rattled by an intrusion into their private echo chamber in which the 'subhanallahs' and 'inshallahs' and mutual dawah kissing sessions bloviate them to a delusional state both comical and absurd.

    Oh no, darkness comes, The Rationaliser is upon us again.



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #116 - August 26, 2011, 11:34 AM
    I think Hamza wanted to debate with you live because he thinks he can get the upper hand by simply giving you an huge amount of bullshit arguments and half-truths and perverted facts and opinions, and you'll never be able to argue against them because you'll have no idea what he's talking about. With Skype, you can actually google all of his lies like in the Magic Sandwich Show.
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #117 - August 26, 2011, 08:55 PM
    They're on channel 843 again right now begging for money.
    .
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #118 - August 26, 2011, 09:01 PM
    Wil not hamza the greek come here?
    Little Fly, Thy summer's play
    My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

    I too dance and drink, and sing,
    Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

    Therefore I am a happy fly,
    If I live or if I die.
  • Re: Help get the rationalizer vs Hamza Tsoztis debate to happen!
     Reply #119 - August 26, 2011, 09:39 PM
    First and foremost, it's highly unlikely he'd come here.
    .
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