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  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #30 - December 23, 2011, 05:26 PM
    Quote from: harakaat on December 23, 2011, 05:22 PM
    Defending yourself or another person in imminent physical danger is one thing. Attacking another citizen is something completely different. Let's not argue about semantics.

    Don't speak blanket platitudes in public then.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #31 - December 23, 2011, 05:27 PM
    How about we just encage the EDL and Islamists and MIGs and other waste of space and let them have their way one another for our entertainment.  It'd make for some great Saturday night television.

    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #32 - December 23, 2011, 05:28 PM
    Quote from: harakaat on December 23, 2011, 05:25 PM
    Then a court of law is the place to deal with that, not the street.



    I'd rather he wasn't beaten up, unless he was directly involved in committing an imminent act of violence himself and so it was done in self defence.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #33 - December 23, 2011, 05:29 PM
    Quote from: harakaat on December 23, 2011, 05:16 PM
    ... you also support Gaddafi, don't you? Without a hint of irony?

    I love Gaddafi, but Gaddafi didn't oppress the people of Libya when I was in Libya and when my family lived in Libya. Out of the 2 years I spent in Libya (I went many times where I stayed for months at a time in Sirte and Tripoli). I never ever saw any woman, man or child dragged into a police car for saying Gaddafi was a bad leader. During debates in coffee shops which my mother had with fellow Libyans. The amount of times I heard 'you like and support this pig, because he's your tribe elder and your from the same city as him'. None of these people got arrested or anything happened to this people Libya was free when he was around and getting better when the terrorists struck with the help of Arab nations and the imperialists. But Tommy isn't any thing like Gaddafi he runs a store in Luton and is a son from Irish parents who came to England for a better life, how can this man tell people "don't come to my country"? Tommy's group are a bunch of football hooligans, drug dealers, sex offenders, uneducated and racists looking for a punch up. The EDL have opressed the voice of allot of Muslim's who tell Tommy. Anjem Choudary get's all the attention from your favourite paper The Sun while people like me are telling you not all Muslims are like this. To be honest if I'd buy every one of the guys who beat him up a drink if I ever run into them. I support freedom of speech, the fact he's saying Islam is scum doesn't bother me. All religions are scum in my eyes, but his group of criminals and racist football hooligans are the real oppressers in my eyes.
    "To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is barbarity."

    Maximilien Robespierre
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #34 - December 23, 2011, 05:32 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on December 23, 2011, 05:26 PM
    Don't speak blanket platitudes in public then.


    Sorry for expecting people not to cleave to absurdly literalistic interpretations thereof just to make a counter-point.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #35 - December 23, 2011, 05:34 PM
    I'd like to add a question. How many times have allot of you been Libya? Well I have I seen 1ST hand the education, the medical care, the housing, the care and respect everyone got from tribal political system Libya had in place. Allot of the time I was in Libya, I noticed that this country was allot more free than Tunisia and Egypt which I've both seen.
    "To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is barbarity."

    Maximilien Robespierre
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #36 - December 23, 2011, 05:36 PM

    What a thread.



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #37 - December 23, 2011, 05:38 PM
    Quote from: harakaat on December 23, 2011, 05:32 PM
    Sorry for expecting people not to cleave to absurdly literalistic interpretations thereof just to make a counter-point.

    Sorry that you had to shift focus from the accountability of Tony to the accountability of whoever assuaulted him in order to put me at odds with you and in order to remain relevant in the discussion.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #38 - December 23, 2011, 05:38 PM
    The EDL have criminals, drug dealers and child sex offenders within their own leadership and many of their members are football hooligans looking for another violent outlet. Its a shame some decent, honest, concerned english white people fall for their false agenda. If extremism is a problem in the UK, the EDL are not the answer, they just make it worse.
    "To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is barbarity."

    Maximilien Robespierre
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #39 - December 23, 2011, 05:46 PM
    Quote from: billy on December 23, 2011, 05:36 PM
    What a thread.






    LOL, you're reminding me of Yakov Smirnoff.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #40 - December 23, 2011, 05:47 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on December 23, 2011, 05:38 PM
    Sorry that you had to shift focus from the accountability of Tony to the accountability of whoever assuaulted him in order to put me at odds with you and in order to remain relevant in the discussion.


    I still maintain that he didn't deserve what happened to him -- you're the one doing the shifting.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #41 - December 23, 2011, 05:50 PM
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #42 - December 23, 2011, 05:53 PM
    As far as violence is concerned imo if anyone is going to get beaten up, it's better that it is someone more deserving than some innocents. Because it is usually innocents that get beaten up.
    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #43 - December 23, 2011, 05:57 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on December 23, 2011, 05:50 PM
    (Clicky for piccy!)


    Fine. My point stands: It's wrong to wish violence upon others.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #44 - December 23, 2011, 05:57 PM
    Quote from: devilsadvokat on December 23, 2011, 05:53 PM
    As far as violence is concerned imo if anyone is going to get beaten up, it's better that it is someone more deserving than some innocents. Because it is usually innocents that get beaten up.


    It's still wrong.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #45 - December 23, 2011, 05:57 PM
    Honestly, I don't understand how you can defend this man who is a leader a foolish group of people. Who cause problems for the British people, cause huge problems for the tax payer when they need hundreds of police officers to make sure their so called "peacefull" protestes. They say horrible and racist slurs during their protests and demonise a whole community. He deserved what he got, he can go about this very differently like Nick Griffin or La Penn (I think that is how you spell her name).
    "To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is barbarity."

    Maximilien Robespierre
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #46 - December 23, 2011, 06:01 PM
    I'm not defending a man, I'm defending the concept of respecting the law and not attacking other people. No one deserves to be physically attacked (note that I say "attacked", and not "restrained").
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #47 - December 23, 2011, 06:06 PM
    LOL at the news!
    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all
            Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    - John Keats
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #48 - December 23, 2011, 06:09 PM
    Are you defending racism, defending a group of people who break the law and waste taxpayers money with protest that bring racists and other criminals to town and citites in England and Scotland? Are you defending these people who've caused thousands of pounds worth of damage to public property, because if your defend the concept behind the EDL your also defending what they do, in the name of freedom of speech.
    "To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is barbarity."

    Maximilien Robespierre
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #49 - December 23, 2011, 06:11 PM
    If by "defend", you mean "acknowledge that they have the right to exist and express themselves as long as they break no laws", then yes, I am defending them.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #50 - December 23, 2011, 06:12 PM
    I bet this arguement is going to go on till 4 pgs. 15 bucks biznitches!
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #51 - December 23, 2011, 06:17 PM
    I have changed my mind, violence is not the answer. Harakaat is right.
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #52 - December 23, 2011, 06:18 PM
     Afro
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #53 - December 23, 2011, 06:20 PM
    Depends what the question is.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #54 - December 23, 2011, 06:26 PM
    The English Defence League, is a bunch of fools. F*CK Tommy, he got what he wanted. He wanted to act a tough man, well a few lads gave him the treatment allot of tough men have recieved.
    "To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is barbarity."

    Maximilien Robespierre
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #55 - December 23, 2011, 07:16 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEDYtlS2YL8
    LOL, this guy got what he needed to get and is proven to have links with Brevik the man who killed so many in Norway.
    "To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is barbarity."

    Maximilien Robespierre
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #56 - December 23, 2011, 07:18 PM
    A shocking occurrence ceases to be shocking when it occurs daily. Alexander Chase

    and thats all i have to say about that.
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #57 - December 23, 2011, 07:31 PM
    I am shocked how people defend a man who happily supported a mass killer. The EDL are a group of racist and hooligans lead by a lying foolish, uneducated, racist who likes trouble.
    "To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is barbarity."

    Maximilien Robespierre
  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #58 - December 23, 2011, 07:34 PM
    Quote from: Moham Ali on December 23, 2011, 05:57 PM
    Honestly, I don't understand how you can defend this man who is a leader a foolish group of people. Who cause problems for the British people, cause huge problems for the tax payer when they need hundreds of police officers to make sure their so called "peacefull" protestes. They say horrible and racist slurs during their protests and demonise a whole community. He deserved what he got, he can go about this very differently like Nick Griffin or La Penn (I think that is how you spell her name).


    Who is defending him?
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL leader beaten up
     Reply #59 - December 23, 2011, 07:35 PM
    very little shocks me any more.

    *goes back to mulling over the numbers
    I plan to use for the next powerball drawning*
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
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