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  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #30 - September 26, 2013, 08:51 PM

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    Yeah, now I wonder about the Saul spinoff thing. Will it take place in Nebraska and will he be a Cinnabon manager when it starts? Cheesy


    No, the spin-off is supposed to be a prequel - before he met WW.

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    I'm guessing it's for Walt's sake, since they made it clear in the previous episode that he has lots of respect for him, or something. Plus even if it's safe for Lydia to get rid of Skyler, it would put Jack's crew at risk.[/quote}

    Perhaps. Did you not hope Todd, was going to come good and save hank. But he was not family. Or as Peggy Mitchell would say Faaaaaaamily. it all about the faaaaaaamily.

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    I'm thinking they just play the part of catalyst and that's that. A big deal was made last season about his feelings about leaving Grey Matter (I'm in the empire business) so the interview kinda reminded him of that and he probably want to go out in a bang.


    You are dead right. They have 46/7 precious minutes to resolve everything, with lessons learnt, to mess around with Grey Matter, at such as a late state.

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    If anyone of the nazis is alive at the end of the last episode, I'll feel cheated.


    Todd. Dead or Alive? Could still be a hero, so what if he killed jesse's girlfriend, someone tell me her name, that's what writers do build a character who is a mass of contradictions, and you don't have to be a pyscho/sociopath but I suppose it helps.





    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #31 - September 26, 2013, 10:44 PM

    Ish-een-a.


    I am a fan of (as well as - slashes/dashes/brackets) of hyphens and apostrophes in exotic names i.e foreign. So goray can pronounce them properly. Like maddiyah could be better spelt M'Dia - which gets correct prounounciation and looks way cooler. Real name is it?Guess I am basically asking about your origins.


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    Rule #5: Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is nonexistent. And don't bother concealing your thievery—celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: "It's not where you take things from—it's where you take them to."

    – Jim Jarmusch, The Golden Rules of Filming


    It is late, got a bit else to write, want to answer fully, could knock up 2,000 words, I will try to do it justice im 350-500. Next time.

    Meanwhile I will say I never come across the rules, never read any literature on film writing, only book I bought was to enable me to structure the layout on a script page. You may think is this guy being serious, yes I am. I entered the 'film world' because I had read in the short strips of the local paper that the regional film body was inviting people to send in a couple of short works, if successful they would be chosen to script a short movie - they teamed you up with a director towards the end. I only sent in a piece (which I thought was the best murder/mystery in 5 mins, like what would take 60/120 mins to do real justice, by including just the necessary scenes, even if it involved cctv at the supermarket, a real Tales of the Unexpected) and I only had written that because my sister told me Orange were looking for a script for a short movie and they would pay 10,000 pounds, I wrote it but found out I missed the deadline. So I had a piece to send in.

    About 200 people turned up at the lecture theatre, there was nine short movies to be made, one female and I were the only new people, this is when you find out that the film world is incestuous, the same writers keep getting the freebies, I suppose the leaders(doing funded jobs) can't be asked to find real talent.

    I remember the second meeting of the nine, each of us, had the previous week submitted three short pieces of ideas for the digital short. No one liked my murder idea, everyone liked the missing pens/underground bunker/bugs getting high on ink - mystery solved idea. My third piece was entitled three(should have been six lol) short shit stories and it was three stories about shit or associated with.

    Out of the nine, the guy who I rated the most said - when evaluating me and my writing - well you can write.

    I pissed off my director because I would not re-write for Johnny Vegas to play real life acting part.

    Out of the nine, I was the only one chosen to participate in this further ting, where for free (well it was for me) directors/producers/one young dude were being taught how to write.

    I remember the first meeting you had to go round naming three favourite movies. Everyone else comes with some foreign stuff, I remember saying Aliens and Highlander lol.

    I got kicked off -  three strikes/misdemeanours and you are out. One of those strikes was a little movie in itself. But I know for a fact, the team 'leader' was having his ear bent by his girlfriend who also had a wage at this film council typa ting. I never play the race card for personal use, but that bitch...

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #32 - September 26, 2013, 11:34 PM

    Just thought you could be nicking/customising some of my ideas. Lol

    I do feel foolish now, asking you whether you were involved in writing/acting/production.

    I am great with plots and story, about a cplus bminus for dialogue. they all sound like me. I love writing first person (bookwise) hate having to introduce dialogue with the -she said, he replied, they remarked - movie makes dialogue writing easier but I am not the greatest at dialogue between two characters that I have little empathy with but I required for the plot/story.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #33 - September 30, 2013, 10:04 AM

    Thank you, Vince Gilligan. That was the most satisfying finale I've ever watched. And screw people who thought it was too neat and not risky enough. I loved every single second of it Smiley

    I was literally yelling "YEAH KILL HIM! KILL HIMMMM!" when  Jesse went after Todd. Yeah, it was fan service. I don't care, though.

    Also how do you like your Stevia now, BITCH?

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #34 - September 30, 2013, 10:25 AM


    I'm in awe of Vince Gilligan.

    Thank you for what feels like the greatest show ever made.

    Walt finally realised what he was. He said to Skyler he didn't do it for the family, he did it for himself.

    Everything about the ending was perfect.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #35 - September 30, 2013, 10:37 AM

    I almost cried when he told her he did it for himself. YES FINALLY! THANK YOU!

    I did cry during the final scene, no idea why. I wasn't even sad!

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #36 - September 30, 2013, 11:12 AM

    We all knew Walt was going to die, the question was how would we get there. And it was achieved without a wrong note.

    I feel sadness because its over. Time to order the blu ray box set and watch it again.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #37 - September 30, 2013, 09:44 PM

    I did cry during the final scene, no idea why. I wasn't even sad!

    Me too. I was crying because it was just so fucking beautiful. I was also grinning from ear to ear, a big satisfied grin. I don't know quite how, but it managed to be completely unpredictable and yet completely and perfectly exactly what I wanted.

    I feel like I need to write a lengthy, gushy post saying how many thousands of ways I loved Breaking Bad, but I think I'm just gonna savour the moment instead. Maybe think about starting from the beginning again.

    And I've still got the season 3 premier of Homeland to watch. I almost don't want to watch it in case it nudges some of these good Breaking Bad vibes out of my brain. I feel like I've been kissed on the cheek by Aaron Paul and I don't wanna wash my face ever again.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #38 - September 30, 2013, 10:29 PM

    Just finished watching the last episode. Brilliant. Breaking Bad will forever remain a classic series.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #39 - October 01, 2013, 12:21 AM

    I thought of putting it off, watch the finale tomorrow, delayed ejaculation, scuse my disgusting puns.

    I was trembling with anticipation like Pavlov's dogs at the first scene. The Man could have sent him somewhere warm. The first cough, the cold-roasted breath, death was in the air, I was flip-flopping between natural or grevious? The physical hardships of Walter White, perhaps a mirror of his inner struggle. (what was the relevance of the watch left behind?).

    Grey Matter was important. The scene at the house, with Walt in the shadows and full view at the same time, prey chasing it's quarry, with natural opera playing in the background- menacing. It evoked the Silence of the lambs. Was walt going to eat them? They escape slaughter by guaranteeing the money, YEAH! After Mike's attempts to leave money to loved one is thwarted not once but twice, now I could cheer. I was almost tearful.

    Walter has shagged Gretchen, is that because Elliot has a small knife?

    Badger and ?Nice touch, in the finale but not out of sentiment, like hank's appearance but out of plot.

    Walt: cheer up beautiful people. You get the chance to do the right thing.
    ?: that shit is choice yo.

    Jess. Dream. Gold light? Wooden box?

    In the dictionary under psychopath should be a picture of Todd. The round table for all three to sit on. Walt coughs harder and longer whilst assassinating Lydia, Skylar safe, who he leaves without a kiss, appearing from the pillar and imo the scene of the show - the revealing of Hank's and Steve's grave. I had actual tears.

    Marie's phone call, covered a lot of ground allowing extra time for walt and skylar and natural background noise. Holly's executes her direction, Sleep. twitch your hand to make it look natural. One take. Cut.

    Walt: look terrible. feel good.

    Uncle jack is a funny fucker. We were now playing high stakes poker, walt had the ace of spades, a gun built by the A-team, but deadlier results not just intent. (how did walt know the exact dimensions of the hut?) Should have checked the boot, boys lol.

    The still of the episode - between the dead body on the movable couch or blood on walt's thumb/finger nail.

    Todd knows he is going to die, a virgin, a few seconds after we know. And we knew, Walt was not interested in the other millions, Bye jack. Hit the road, jack.

    Walt and Jesse - 62 episodes fly between them when they look at each other, Walt offers him the chance, asks for it, his death but Jesse denies him this, I get all emotional again, Jesse leaves and imo freedom is enough for jesse right now, as much as he can hope for, we saw him first as a boy and he leaves it a man.

    Walt leaves us. Having taken a bullet for Jesse. Content. That it finished at a natural end. Bravo. I bet The Sopranos could do with extra 7 minutes.

    ETA - BTw you may have noticed that I have been logged on and off a few times in the past hours, first hour wrote three-quarters of the way, a much longer version and my mouse suddenly deleted 80per cent of that, meanwhile it was stuck (the button in the middle of the mouse0 only allowing me to see the top half a page, just could not get onto this thread, then id did it again and I thought fuck it, tomorrow morning, luckily it was a case of third time round, perhaps it was for the better, the finished article was tighter, though I might have had the time to be more entertaining. Going to buy a new mouse tomorrow.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #40 - October 01, 2013, 02:24 PM

    Or even seven seconds. Lol

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #41 - October 01, 2013, 04:12 PM

    I feel like I need to write a lengthy, gushy post saying how many thousands of ways I loved Breaking Bad, but I think I'm just gonna savour the moment instead. Maybe think about starting from the beginning again.

    And I've still got the season 3 premier of Homeland to watch. I almost don't want to watch it in case it nudges some of these good Breaking Bad vibes out of my brain. I feel like I've been kissed on the cheek by Aaron Paul and I don't wanna wash my face ever again.


    Haha I totally get this. How do I even begin to get emotionally invested in another show now? It's way too soon. I'm putting off watching pretty much everything. And I will definitely start watching it all again soon, because my man hasn't watched the show yet and I will make him.

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #42 - October 01, 2013, 04:19 PM

    I've ordered the deluxe blu-ray box set special edition already

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #43 - October 01, 2013, 05:25 PM

    Took my daughter to the dentist, it was a good one because they had Esquire magazine for oct2013 which had a feature of Breaking bad and an interview with Vince Gilligan. The last line of the article  - something like as walter White knows the path to hell is paved with good intentions!! What I wrote about the phone-call, previously, a few other things I wrote chimed.

    Esquire has tasteful flesh pictures of King Joffrey's wife in the issue to.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #44 - October 03, 2013, 10:46 PM



     Cry

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #45 - October 04, 2013, 05:01 AM


    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #46 - October 04, 2013, 05:12 AM

     clap

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #47 - October 04, 2013, 09:42 AM

    A bunch of good articles on the finale I have been reading.

    First, about the name of the episode, Felina and how it hints about how Walt dies , which I kinda like. I love all those little hints they have been subtly putting out there  dance  And take that Lydia  dance
    http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/09/30/breaking-bad-finale-marty-robbins-song-el-paso-reveals-secret-behind-felina-title/

    This one has a very interesting theory about how the entire finale might have been Walts fantasy. It does kinda make sense. I mean everything went exactly how he wanted it to. Plus I find it incredibly odd how no one seemed to recognize Walt expect the neighbour, espcially in his own town, where you would think it would be a huge deal the for people there. Or how come the detectives outside of Skylers house dont even consider keeping an eye on the back door?
    http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/10/norm-mcdonald-breaking-bad/

    A few others
    http://www.avclub.com/articles/felina,102961/
    http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/09/breaking-bad-season-5-episode-16-discussion-recap/

    Overall I loved the episode, and  yay Jesse got out  Smiley  ...  even if it all was a fantasy, its still good enough for me.


    Interesting angle, the fantasy. When did this fantasy begin? And yes I too thought about the detectives, basic dereliction of duty, I mean we have number 1 top wanted visiting the  number 1 suspected person he will make contact with and even though he magically appeared from behind a pillar, there must have been magic to get him into the house in the first place!! I just put it down to his brilliance, Walt's.

    And not only that, his fantasy must have included not kissing his wife goodbye or talking to Flynn and the cops missed him there too.

    Neighbour? Good spot, was that in the finale, I mean I remember it from the flashforward in ep9 perhaps?

    Nah, biggest fantasy - the armoury in the trunk/boot no boot/trunk, c'mon, he had to park it so so right, has Walt been to their stronghold before, I don't think so, and all of Todd's lot were in the room at the same time, no one in the loo or having a wank somewhere and if had not been there before he would have to know exactly how big the room was, which wall would it lined against and everyone died except jack and Todd, how handy, so we can see Walt exact revenge for Hank by despatching Jack and jesse can avenge and release all the pent-up frustration by squeezing the life out of Todd. yeah, you convinced me, it was a fantasy. Lol

    I get told off by my friends for over-analysing everything, if you did that to drama it would suck the enjoyment out of it.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #48 - October 04, 2013, 12:22 PM

    Nahh analyzing and overanalysing the show is exactly what the producers, writers want us to do.. It's one of those shows that leave clues out for us, so how can we not try and analyse it  grin12


    can't respond more fully, gotta go Jummah, but are you sure these 'clues' are deliberately done and not a happy coincidence/by-product done/created by the rest of the story i.e the writer rights, misses something or does not see it, others do, point it out or give too much critical acclaim to something that the writer did not even see, ahh it is clue.

    I am not sure I have made myself clear, hopefully you will get the gist, of course you can disagree.

    With analysis (And I am with you on that) perhaps you miss the tree for the forest.

    Side note - you know that saying that if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? (I think it is like that)

    Well what if you and someone else were in the toilets of a 24 hour pool club, no one else is around in the club, coz the man has left you in charge at 5 in the morning. So your in the loo, chilling, they are nice loos, the womens anyway, no one else in the club, the buzzer rings in the main hal, no one is there to hear it, did it make a sound?

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #49 - October 04, 2013, 02:06 PM

    The ending was glorious.

    Kudos to Vince Gilligan !

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #50 - October 04, 2013, 02:36 PM

    I wouldn't know, I guess only the writers of the show know the real answer to that. But it just seems to me that the storylines have been perfectly planned, down to every detail,  like with Lydia and the ricin. How many times have we watched her fizzle with her tee over and over again? I just see stuff like that as hints. Wether they really were or not, I have no idea.

     

    Well with breaking bad, from what I know, Gilligan knew it would end at x point, unlike say Lost lol, so he can work backwards from towards the end, at the beginning though he might have written something and by happenstance that leads to another 'thought' and we sit back and think, that is superb. Lol

    The scene where jesse 'connects the dots' people think I am random, beggared belief but it was required, no one can be perfect (I have written a film script which I think is perfect in that sense)and the shoot-out implausible to the nth degree.

    Does Walt say - If I can Just get back home or does he say Just get me back home' - I 'didn't pick up on that, all I thought it was when we see the flashing red lights - that it is either a police car or a recovery truck - but now I think it was a police car because it was stolen, the car, keys in the visor (old ones are the best).

    Are people who think it is a fantasy, or over-analysers of drama generally the 'same' as conspiracy theorists? One is detrimental to health but otherwise?





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    As for the rest, wut?  Grin  Do you mean im looking for an understanding of the ending I cannot possibly find out about? or?
    Im not familiar with the saying so...


    Lol. Sorry about that, sometimes random thoughts appear from nowhere and I have to write them down, not just for attention just that it is expressed in written form. The falling tree in the forest?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest
    "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" is a philosophical thought experiment that raises questions regarding observation and knowledge of reality.

    And I used the phrase 'miss the trees for the forest incorrectly in my first post to you. You were talking about the 'fantasy' which would correlate for the forest, rather than the trees or summat like that.

    I just had to write my version of the falling tree - the person who was pressing the buzzer told us so a hour later, so I know a 'sound' happened we told him we heard nothing, then I thought that could have been when were in the toilet, now I remember the jukebox was playing also(but if you were in the main hall it would not matter if the jukebox was playing, you would hear the sound). When he told me I imagined the main hall and the buzzer going off and no one hearing it. Now I am beginning to think, what if music is played in an forest, does it make noise?

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #51 - October 04, 2013, 03:04 PM

    For instance - that ricin that had been hidden by Walt, now I don't know if Gilligan wrote it all in one piece, I guess not, but do we really know that when it was written, it was written with Lydia in mind, it could have been anyone, he was probably sure that someone would be needed to die unobtrusively, but Lydia made the perfect choice. (It might have meant for someone else, who died in a more/better dramatic/plot continuation) And then we think, wow how unpredictable. What a masterstroke.

    Obviously if Vince Gilligan says he knew Lydia was to die when he introduced the hidden ricin, then what I say above is bollocks, but it exists.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #52 - October 04, 2013, 03:33 PM

    Look at this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLLRslqhf0c


    At the cinema a few years ago, don't know which movie, sitting with me mate, saw the Columbia pictures screenshot and turned round to him and said - did you see the face? Now I don't know if that was an updated version of the screenshot, because must have seen a few columbia pictures movies in my time and not noticed before.

    Thought, ahh must be a thing that the executives at Columbia know about, an inside joke, but when I looked on the internet, it was not. When I saw it, I tried to track it down on the internet, nothing, nowt, nadda (unless they have said something in past three years, the executives that is.

    Even this video, to my knowledge is the only one of its kind (Colombia pictures specific) and perhaps can only be found (cant be found by putting face in the clouds) if you know what you are looking for and in two years has had 436 views. Not that common.

    Think it must be the graphic designers joke.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #53 - October 04, 2013, 04:13 PM

    For instance - that ricin that had been hidden by Walt, now I don't know if Gilligan wrote it all in one piece, I guess not, but do we really know that when it was written, it was written with Lydia in mind, it could have been anyone, he was probably sure that someone would be needed to die unobtrusively, but Lydia made the perfect choice. (It might have meant for someone else, who died in a more/better dramatic/plot continuation) And then we think, wow how unpredictable. What a masterstroke.

    Obviously if Vince Gilligan says he knew Lydia was to die when he introduced the hidden ricin, then what I say above is bollocks, but it exists.


    talking to yourself. usually the last sign of madness. But you are provided with a quote option for your own post, so the facility is there, why not use it and I had to.

    basically what I wrote above is bollocks don't need Vince Gilligan to tell me that - the flashforward happened in ep9 of current season, if tru that means he did know the intended target, for a moment I thought Walt retrieved the ricin earlier in the season/show. but you get my gist.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #54 - October 05, 2013, 01:19 AM

    he said: Just get me home. I'll do the rest.. The point was just that he made a wish for it to happen.... and it did.


    I still don't buy it. If he said 'if' then maybe, it is just too Wizard of Oz. So what if was too neat an ending, thankfully a writer who isn't going to shit on his fans. It's a win win situation. Of course that does not mean that an ending has to end neatly, I want them to make a sequel to Italian Job, from when the bus is stuck out over the mountainside, but that was a movie and the ending was great enough to still be satisfying, but in a drama of good length, I don't wanna be pissed off. I am sure Vince Gilligan wont deny or confirm the fantasy theory, why should he, is it a clue, is there not, could be, makes him out to be even more of a genius than he is.

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    Then it might have been a mix of both. With the faith of the bigger characters he probably knew from the get go. While with some of the minor character, he had a bit more wiggle room throughout the series. Like i read somewhere that Huell was set to die, but people liked him too much or something.


    Audience reaction is one thing and important. I bet hank wishes he was as popular (I know, I know)lol. But I bet the writers who have last minute masterstrokes, (sitting on the loo possibly)or they found by serendipity won't acknowledge it as such. Most original things nowadays are probably found by accident.

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    hmm well the ricin was made very early on in the show, so it I can see how it could have been a piece he played with a little before deciding who to use it on. But im guessing that he must have known throughout atleast season 5, again because the scenes with Lydia kept putting light on her stevia habit.


    Was Lydia in season four? Did she have that habit? I suppose you don't need her to have stevia(what is that - sweetener), maybe that was to make her neurotic, and explain her manner, strictly regimental, give her a bit of depth and it just happened to also work as a mode of introducing ricin to her, I mean you write a shoot-out like that and you can't poison someone sitting at the same table?

    So that ricin hidden behind that 'whatever it is called' grille, has been there for a long time? You are right, it has been there ages, no?


    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #55 - October 05, 2013, 02:02 AM

    And also it did not have to be a breaking badesque ending, the episode when the shit hit the fans, two episode back, now that was worth the sober/happy/warm glow finale. Any show with that episode, can do what it likes.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #56 - October 05, 2013, 11:50 AM

    Artemis

    I have thought of a good example of over/under analysis, bear with me, gonna talk about myself again (not because I am a narcissist, just that I like to relate properly)

    When I joined the online world I was naïve, how naïve? In my first week, I realised that morals are not absolute lol - so on this particular forum, my cover was a believing if not totally practising muslim, which you know, can handicap you in so many ways. My arguments grew enough to cope with most apart from one poster, infrequent but always on the warpath with me as her target lol. Tigress! Fella's I would bring me out in a cold sweat when she was online, I didn't run away oh no, but did I put up with some intense posts! She used to write a post and say to me, right I am catching the tube and when I get home blah blah blah. The only clue about life outside her work, even that was minimal was she was working at some top top computer/terminals, oh man did she know her jargon, like a top project leader and the only music she liked was classical (now I think, that was the silence of the lambs/tigress/calling us herbivores at the watering hole - I'd like to run into her again now.

    That was the background, now my point

    On said forum, I posted my entire movie, bit by bit over a month or so. Didn't get much feedback.

    In one sentence I would sum it up as 'an intercontinental kidnap crime caper'  Tigresses' 140 (no twitter then) synopsis of the movie was over-analytical and biting, good words strung together, like she was dissing me but in reality

    I thought it was brilliant. In fact, that forum is archived, I will hunt it down, my posts aren't, that is robably because the BBC scrubbed every last of the 6000plus posts I had written. But this post would have been hers, so even if my post quoting her, is gone, her's should still be there, unless she deleted it after I crowed as to how good her 'takedown' was of me.

    If this makes no sense, please ignore, at least I have written that down for the first time.
     

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #57 - October 06, 2013, 04:50 PM

    Ish-een-a.
    Rule #5: Nothing is original. – Jim Jarmusch, The Golden Rules of Filming


    Ishina
    So much and so little has happened I couldn't quite get round to tackling this. In fact I can't get past the opening sentence. So you done nothing original in your life? Seen, read, heard? But then you write this

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    The Sopranos has mostly the same themes, but it was the original


    mees thinking if I let you explain the discrepancies between the two statements (albeit, one was not by you, and perhaps it was the other sentences that was more your point) maybe you will do my work for me.  It goes without saying that it is not the contradiction that I want to highlight (I do loads but I understand that context/nuances come into play)

    I think objects/people/ideas can be original, sure there is recorded original (like bell and the other inventor of the phone) and established original and then the original original.

    For instance, a lot of people think Michael Jackson was the source of the Moonwalk, it is believable, but we know that the bloke of Shalamar was recorded having performed it, but you would have to ask him where he saw it first.

    Probably some 12 year old kid, high on life, clowning around. Now I am thinking that if I google who invented the moonwalk, I might get the answer.

    ETA - Some dude called Dick Jensen or Similar steps were used by Cab Calloway, whoever he is as far back as 1932. But whoever did it first was the original.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #58 - October 06, 2013, 06:21 PM

    Ishina
    So much and so little has happened I couldn't quite get round to tackling this. In fact I can't get past the opening sentence. So you done nothing original in your life? Seen, read, heard? But then you write this

    mees thinking if I let you explain the discrepancies between the two statements (albeit, one was not by you, and perhaps it was the other sentences that was more your point) maybe you will do my work for me.

    I didn't anticipate such a literal take on a rhetorical point.

    What I mean is The Sopranos was the first major breakthough drama that had the villain as the central character, as well as making the first real success of controversial and mature themes, proving pretty much single handedly that there is actually an appetite and market for that kind of darker, adult writing in TV.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #59 - October 06, 2013, 07:29 PM

    During the Attitude Era Stone Cold Steve Austin (as the anti-Hero) and D-X were on top form and in WcW the nWo were 'taking over' like a storm. The vallains were hot property and fronted these mainstream live sports entertainment shows.

    Didn't watch much of The Sopranos, but it would appear that the worldwide audience already had an appetite for villains being the major focus of a tv show.

    'Tis an interesting discussion nevertheless.

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