Exactly. I used to say, well if we're like brother/sister before we get married, then when we get married, does that mean we're marrying our sister??

Your family sounds a lot more tolerant than mine. I also have a very laid back dad who isn't really religious (except when he wants to use the dogma that if you do 'uff' at parents you go to hell

) but my mom is super-religious and keeps telling me to say my prayers etc. But all of my brothers & sisters.. with the exception of one who lives in Australia, are quite religious and they already keep calling me 'gora' and 'kafir'

. And I have some super religious cousins & uncles, so I really think its better to keep a low profile for now and to not officially admit my apostacy until I leave PK again. But I'm surprised that your family is so cool with it, wish there were more people like them around

.
Incidentally this is also the reason I didn't stay with my parents when I returned from Aus, instead I rented a flat to live by myself in another city, and next week I am moving to murree which they're also trying to talk me out of

. I plan to stay there in murree until I move back to Aus in 1-2 years.
By the way, how do you access this forum, directly or through a proxy? Do you think it is safe to access it directly, we won't be monitored by the ISP, etc?
Well I have had some VERY uncomfortable moments with my other relatives (who are very close and their opinions often matter in this society)
Observe:
http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=7597.0I too just want to get the hell out of this country because I know I cant live the way I now want by being stuck here, yes I'll miss this fucking country because it has been my home but unless the people get their act together here and eliminate the nonsense here,
apni madad aap it is for me.
I have enough academic qualifications to get a work permit in UK easily, its just about the finances arrangement which is a REAL test for me and my family - who also want me to work outside Pakistan because they know the people here will never take someone like me seriously unless I go down on my knees and fucking blow the
babu running the show and are very supportive about it - too bad they are in a real financial fix to facilitate my move.
LOL, Murree?

Wow, I hope you at least get a good job in those parts - but watchout for
Pindiwaals and all the rural junk from Pakistan coming there and clogging the place in summer times, horrible time to visit Murree. Nathia Gali is brilliant.
I access this forum directly; being the maverick in this regard.
