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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #60 - June 26, 2009, 08:42 AM
    Quote from: J4m3z on June 26, 2009, 01:08 AM
    It's a bit like the Israel/Palestine debate. Many Muslims say that Israel as a country should not have a place on the map and they bring up a picture of how it looked in 1946. I really don't get that. What about a map from thousands of years b.c.?

    +1
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #61 - June 26, 2009, 04:05 PM
    Getting laid helps calm the tension.
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #62 - June 26, 2009, 04:06 PM
    Quote from: King Tut on June 26, 2009, 04:05 PM
    Getting laid helps calm the tension.

    Which tension  Huh?
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #63 - June 26, 2009, 04:10 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on June 26, 2009, 04:06 PM
    Which tension  Huh?


    Racial. If there was a sub-genre of humans, we would not be able to breed with them, the fact that I can have sex with all (animal) human women and create a baby means there is no sub-genre of humans.
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #64 - June 26, 2009, 04:22 PM
    Quote from: King Tut on June 26, 2009, 04:05 PM
    Getting laid helps calm the tension.


    You are the dirtiest guy I know. You're obsessed man.

    Bare random son.
  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #65 - June 26, 2009, 04:59 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on June 23, 2009, 07:58 PM
    I saw Nick Griffin interviewed on the news...

    Griffin - "We accept membership from the English, Welsh, Scots and Irish, because they are the indigenous people of Britain."

    Interviewer - "so can a black Welshman join?"

    Griffin - "There's no such thing as a black Welshman."

     Roll Eyes

    And btw, I want the BNP to ban Irish people from joining too.  We don't want to be included in his stinky party.   thnkyu


    I saw that interview - for some reason Nick Griffin reminds me of Sheikh Faisal. It's the shifty eyes that look down, sideways and don't look at the person they are talking to for long. You get the feeling he (and Sheikh Faisal) is hiding something.


    Griffin's comment that there is no such thing as a Black Welshman was outrageous. If Tom Jones saw that he'd be livid. He's very proud of his Welsh roots.

  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #66 - June 26, 2009, 05:38 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on June 26, 2009, 04:59 PM
    I saw that interview - for some reason Nick Griffin reminds me of Sheikh Faisal. It's the shifty eyes that look down, sideways and don't look at the person they are talking to for long. You get the feeling he (and Sheikh Faisal) is hiding something.

     I think that may be because Griffin has one glass eye.
  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #67 - July 12, 2009, 03:54 PM
    British National Party leader Nick Griffin has said he no longer wants to see an all-white United Kingdom!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8146585.stm
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #68 - July 12, 2009, 06:06 PM
    He's won his seat on a wave of xenophobia - he is now preparing the ground in his party for equal opportunities, a pre-requisite of retaining his seat in the European Council. 

    He can then volte-face on his party manifesto where no party members were allowed to belong to ethnic groups. 

    A perfectly executed strategy, and so much more polished that the National Front of old sad
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #69 - July 12, 2009, 08:02 PM
    "The BNP leader also defended his view that the EU should sink boats carrying illegal immigrants. Mr Griffin said: "What needs to be done as an example is to sink a couple of boats near the shores of Libya - throw them lifebelts so they can paddle back, so they understand they will never get to Europe."
  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #70 - July 12, 2009, 08:08 PM
    Saying that just makes his earlier statement more palateable amongst his supporters
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #71 - July 12, 2009, 08:40 PM
    Well that's it, if you say contradicting things then you please everybody and thus become more popular.

    I've noticed the Daily Mail does that alot.
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #72 - July 22, 2009, 06:17 AM
    So I just realised that if you were to hypothetically apply BNP logic to America:

    - White Americans do not exist because Americans were originally brown skinned Native Americans.

    - White Americans should not be eligible for welfare or Councill housing because they are not of the native indiginous population.

    - White Americans who commit crimes should be deported back to the UK.

    Just a hypothetical analysis of applying BNP logic to America.
    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #73 - July 22, 2009, 07:06 AM
     Cheesy That'd work. You can apply it more rigorously to the UK too. For instance, the original inhabitants of the UK were the Celts. All the later types like Romans, Angles, Saxons, Normans, etc are bloody foreigners and should be deported, as should their descendants.
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #74 - July 22, 2009, 07:09 AM
    Even the Celts were originally natives of Asia
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #75 - July 22, 2009, 07:10 AM
    Bloody foreigners.  Roll Eyes
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #76 - July 22, 2009, 07:19 AM
    I pretended to be black on an Anti BNP video, describing myself as a Black Englishman against the BNP supporter.

    Here are some of the replies I got. Trust me when I say that even I could not have made any of these up myself:

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    This is a reply from Youtube user PrimeMinisterGriffin:

    Because there are gollywogs and multicolourd frogs that need educating on the basic facts of race,peoples and who they are/where they belong to !
    I dont think monkey man or banana basher is racist !
    Just as if you said snowman or rose sniffer to me !
    Thing is mate ,I bet you 20 coconuts that the BNP smash their way into the general elections next year ! and pritty soon we will be a major player in west minster (WE ARE RAPIDLY EXPANDING DAY BY DAY)!


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    This is another reply from Youtube user PrimeMinisterGriffin

    ok 20 coconuts,4 bunches of bananas and to pound of shrimps !
    Its a deal !
    My dark brother !
    ;o)
    Now go and get some work done,you big lazy Gorrila


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    Sigh, and another one:

    Im not a "white supremacist" silly black sambo !
    Do you not understand ? Im a British nationlist.Its not about skin colour ! THICKO ! ugggaaa uugggga Cmon... I dont want the stinking polish here any more than the stinking pakistanis !
    FUCK YOU and FUCK POLITICAL CORRECTNESS !



    I were adopting the mentality of Vaughan Gething, the first black President of Wales TUC from this article here for fun, just saying I were a Black Englishman to get such replies out of him:

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/welsh-politics/welsh-politics-news/2009/06/25/black-welshmen-condemn-bnp-leader-nick-griffin-s-controversial-tv-comment-91466-23970445/


    Been up all night arguing with and purposefully baiting BNP supporters for roffles Smiley

    Sorry if any of his comments offend anyone.

    I wish I could make stories out of this epic stuff.


    I screenshotted it, and now it is going all over the internet =D

    He couldnt have picked a more fitting name either lol.
    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #77 - July 22, 2009, 07:25 AM
    Not hard to bait idiots.  Roll Eyes
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #78 - July 22, 2009, 07:27 AM
    how sad
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #79 - July 22, 2009, 08:17 AM
    Full picture here, I am Bhavvv, now you know my name. I said some bad things too, but who wouldnt?

    http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6351/pretendingtobeblack.jpg

    Going on every forum that I can think of now =D
    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #80 - July 22, 2009, 10:08 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on July 22, 2009, 07:06 AM
    Cheesy That'd work. You can apply it more rigorously to the UK too. For instance, the original inhabitants of the UK were the Celts. All the later types like Romans, Angles, Saxons, Normans, etc are bloody foreigners and should be deported, as should their descendants.

    Deport all humans back to Africa, that will solve all problems.  Cheesy
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #81 - July 22, 2009, 03:25 PM
    I love internet forums Smiley

    'The BNP should not be banned from youtube as this violates their freedom of speech .....'

    Prior to that ....

    'I dont believe that politics should be discussed on this forum'.

    I am all for freedom of speech in real life. Let people say whatever they like and deal with any consequences as a result.

    However, Internet forums, as well as Youtube, are free to regulate whatever rules they like.

    According to youtube rules, race is a protected group, so why is an anti race group disguised as a political party allowed to break their race policy in its beliefs and subsequent postings on youtube, yet they are allowed to operate and use youtube as their means of advertisement and spreading propaganda?

    THese people posting about the BNP are not on youtube to exersise their freedom of speech. They are doing so to advertise and spread their political party using the internet as a means of support, as they would not be tolerated with such practices in public.

    I agree with one thing only regarding the BNP and that is stopping them. I do not, and will not believe that racism disguised as a political party should be allowed, that a political party that discrimintaes and hates people based on their skin colour should be allowed to operate, and believe that the BNP should not have been allowed under British law to get as far as they have done today.

    Oh hey, this is also my opinion and my freedom of speech Smiley.
    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #82 - July 22, 2009, 03:46 PM
    Well you're wrong, BNP do not preach hatred of different skin colours, and thats why its allowed.
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #83 - July 22, 2009, 03:49 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on July 22, 2009, 03:46 PM
    Well you're wrong, BNP do not preach hatred of different skin colours, and thats why its allowed.

    Well... really?
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #84 - July 22, 2009, 03:56 PM
    Well they hate white Polish immigrants too, so fail to see how its colour based.  Its more to do with a dislike of immigrants, and their willingness to adopt UK culture at the expense of their own. 

    We are talking about the BNP party, and not what some of their naturally racist followers believe.   
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #85 - July 22, 2009, 04:00 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on July 22, 2009, 03:46 PM
    Well you're wrong, BNP do not preach hatred of different skin colours, and thats why its allowed.


    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/welsh-politics/welsh-politics-news/2009/06/25/black-welshmen-condemn-bnp-leader-nick-griffin-s-controversial-tv-comment-91466-23970445/

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    The newly elected far-right MEP sparked anger after saying: “There is no such thing as a black Welshman. You can have a black Briton; you can’t have a black Welshman. Welsh is about people who live in Wales since the end of the last ice age.”


    BNP Policies:

    - Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;

    - Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;

    - Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.

    - Train and pay to retain British doctors, nurses and dentists instead of looting the Third World of staff who are desperately needed in their home countries


    Nick Griffin himself has described 'British' to include White English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish peole only, also why only these people are allowed to join the party.




    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #86 - July 22, 2009, 04:03 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on July 22, 2009, 03:56 PM
    Well they hate white Polish immigrants too, so fail to see how its colour based.  


    No, do not confuse what this one person said and his opinions with the truth. Nick Griffin has previously stated that White europeans living in Britain are not a problem.

    Of course, if you see a white person in the street, just how can you tell if they are British, French, Polish, Russian, or any other European nationality?

    This statement is just often a lie that is made to defend hatred of other groups, the person will say 'I am not racist because I hate everyone', or 'I am not racist because not everyone is like that', while critising and opposing people based on their skin color or race. Usually, these statements are just made with false the intent to 'prove that I sac dislike people for their skin color or race without being racist'.

    But I question the sanity of such a person that hates anyone based on natiionality alone or ethnic background.
    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #87 - July 22, 2009, 04:13 PM
    Of course, I dont doubt Nick Griffin is probably a white supremacist too.  However, I stress again, we are talking about the party and if you can show me a part of the manifesto which shows they openly advocate white supremacy, as you originally implied, then I am happy to change my pov.
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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #88 - July 22, 2009, 04:14 PM
    I agree with ExHindu here. I think the BNP are racist in every sense of the word. Ideally, they should have been banned from YouTube, since they violate official YouTube policy. In practice, though, YouTube moderation is not very strict, and all kinds of racism run rampant.

    This is official YouTube policy:

    http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines

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    We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. But we don't permit hate speech (speech which attacks or demeans a group based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation/gender identity).

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  • Re: 2 BNP MEPs - What does this mean for the future?
     Reply #89 - July 22, 2009, 04:22 PM
    Quote from: Zaephon on July 22, 2009, 04:14 PM
    I agree with ExHindu here. I think the BNP are racist in every sense of the word. Ideally, they should have been banned from YouTube, since they violate official YouTube policy. In practice, though, YouTube moderation is not very strict, and all kinds of racism run rampant.

    This is official YouTube policy:

    http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines



    I understand youtubes policy, but can you show where white supremacy is officially part of BNP policy?

    P.S  Judging by your arguments in your last post, do you also believe Wilders should be banned on youtube?
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