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     Reply #1500 - December 18, 2013, 09:20 PM

    'If you feel no shame, then do whatever you wish" Prophet Mohammed.

    Its okay I found this:

    http://abuhatim.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/if-you-feel-no-shame-then-do-as-you-wish/


    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

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  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1501 - December 18, 2013, 09:26 PM

    Ya also interpreted as

    Hadith - Sahih Bukhari, Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah, Ibn Hibban, and Ahmad

    Abu Mus'ud reported that the Prophet of Allah, saaws, said, "Among the well-known wisdom of the prophets is the saying, 'If you have no shame, then do as you please.' "

    Not sure of exact numbers for reference, just know its been referred to in so many talks I've been too, if i can be bothered to go through old notes I'll find it for you.

    Have you not come across that one? Ppl tend to use a lot to shame you into doing something, almost like a "have you no shame", but if you have no shame then its a free pass lol

    "Make anyone believe their own knowledge and logic is insufficient and you'll have a puppet susceptible to manipulation."
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1502 - December 18, 2013, 09:28 PM

    You took notes at lectures? GEEK!

    I did that too when Abudur Raheem Green came to Teeside University to do a lecture on Evolution: Myth or Reality? in 1998/1999.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1503 - December 18, 2013, 09:52 PM

    "Knight of the rose. [Opera by Richard Strauss] – Elegant people are attractive due to the expectation that they are free in private from the greed for the advantages, which flow to them from their position, and from the stubborn prejudice in the closest relationships, which is caused by the narrowness of these last. One has confidence in their pleasure of adventure in thought, sovereignty vis-à-vis the state of their own interests, and refinement of forms of reaction, thinking that their sensitivity would turn at least in Spirit [Geist] against the brutality on which their privilege depends, while the victims scarcely have the possibility to recognize what makes them such. If however the separation of production and the private-sphere ultimately proves to be a piece of necessary social appearance [Scheins], then this expectation of unbound spirituality must be disappointed. Even the most subtle snobbery has nothing of dégoût [French: disgust] vis-à-vis its objective prerequisite, but rather seals itself off from its cognition. It is an open question as to what extent the French aristocracy of the 18th century took part, playfully-suicidally, in the enlightenment and the preparation for the revolution, a participation which the antipathy against the terrorists of virtue was so glad to imagine. The bourgeoisie in any case has kept itself free in its later phase from such inclinations. No-one dances anymore on the volcano, otherwise they would be declassed. Subjectively, too, the “society” [in English in original] is so thoroughly stamped by the economic principle, whose manner of rationality concerns the whole, that the emancipation from interests – even merely as intellectual luxury – is forbidden. Just as they are not capable of enjoying their immeasurably expanded wealth, they are equally incapable of thinking against themselves. The search for frivolity is in vain. What helps to eternalize the real distinction between the upper and lower strata, is the fact that the distinction between the modes of consciousness, both here and there, is vanishing more and more. The poor are prevented from thinking by the discipline of others, the rich from that of their own. The consciousness of the rulers is inscribing in all Spirit [Geist], what previously religion endured. Culture turns for the high bourgeoisie into an element of representation. That one is clever or educated, is ranked under the qualities which make one worthy of invitation or marriage, like horse-riding skills, love of nature, charm or a faultlessly tailored suit. They are not curious about cognition. Free of cares, they mostly busy themselves with mundane details, just like the small bourgeoisie. They furnish houses, throw parties, make hotel and airplane reservations with virtuosity. Otherwise they nourish themselves on the refuse of European irrationalism. They bluntly justify their own hostility to the intellect [Geistfeindschaft], already suspecting – and not unjustly – something subversive in thinking itself, in the independence from anything which is already given or already existing. Just as in Nietzsche’s time, when educated philistines believed in progress, the uniformly higher development of the masses and the greatest possible happiness of the greatest possible number, so too do they believe today, without quite knowing it, in the opposite: the revocation of 1789, the incorrigibility of human nature, the anthropological impossibility of happiness – actually only that things are all too good for the workers. The profundity of yesteryear has recoiled into the most extreme banality. Of Nietzsche and Bergson, the last canonized philosophers, nothing remains but the murkiest anti-intellectualism in the name of the nature, which its apologists mutilate. “Nothing is more annoying to me about the Third Reich,” said in 1933 the Jewish woman of a general director, who was later murdered in Poland, “than the fact that we can no longer use the word earthly, because the Nazis have impounded it,” and even after the downfall of the Fascists, the attractive Austrian lady of a wealthy house, on meeting a labor union leader at a cocktail party with a reputation as a radical, knew no better way to express her enthusiasm for his personality than the bestial expression: “and moreover he is totally unintellectual, totally unintellectual.” I remember my own shock, when an aristocratic girl of shadowy origins, who could barely speak German to me with a thick foreign accent, expressed her sympathy for Hitler, with whose picture her own seemed incompatible. At that time I thought, sheer idiocy prevents her from seeing who she is. But she was more clever than I, for what she represented, no longer existed, and by cancelling out her individual determination, her class consciousness helped her being-in-herself, her social character, to break through. Those at the top are integrating with such iron force, that the possibility of subjective deviation falls away and nowhere can difference be sought anymore than in the distinguished cut of an evening gown."

    Theodor W. Adorno — Minima Moralia.
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1504 - December 18, 2013, 09:57 PM

    Nice.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1505 - December 18, 2013, 09:59 PM

    Sum it up for me in one sentence.  grin12


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    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

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  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1506 - December 18, 2013, 10:04 PM

    Bad shout, comrade! I was under the impression that you were a student of poststructuralism? You should be acquainted with the Frankfurt School and how the poststructuralist movement was almost an antithesis to the rigid Marxism of the FS. Disappointed. Tut, tut. I'll be giving the necessary bodies a call tomorrow...
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1507 - December 18, 2013, 10:27 PM

    I am not my body, my race or my gender
    I'm my soul, my pure essence
    -INcePtion



    If there are dreams about a beautiful South Africa, there are also roads that lead to their goal. Two of these roads could be named Goodness and Forgiveness.
    -Nelson Mandela   


    Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.
    -Khalil Gibran
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1508 - December 18, 2013, 10:37 PM

    Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.
    -Winston Churchill
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1509 - December 18, 2013, 11:02 PM

    Ahh, Winston old boy. You are missed.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1510 - December 18, 2013, 11:02 PM

    "We succeeded in taking that picture [from deep space], and, if you look at it, you see a dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever lived, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lived there on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.

    The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner of the dot. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity - in all this vastness - there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us. It's been said that astronomy is a humbling, and I might add, a character-building experience. To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

    ~ Carl Sagan, A Pale Blue Dot

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1511 - December 18, 2013, 11:05 PM

    Consider your origins: you were not made to live as brutes, but to follow virtue and knowledge.
    -Dante Alighieri
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1512 - December 19, 2013, 08:03 AM

    Bad shout, comrade! I was under the impression that you were a student of poststructuralism? You should be acquainted with the Frankfurt School and how the poststructuralist movement was almost an antithesis to the rigid Marxism of the FS. Disappointed. Tut, tut. I'll be giving the necessary bodies a call tomorrow...


    I only know of some of the theories devised and expounded upon by Adorno and Horkheimer. Maybe other theorists that I have read of but did not know were in the FS. I am not interested in the school of thought anyway save for the supra structuralism aspect of modern society and how the media is the opiate of the people. But I can find better arguments from clear speaking people who make the points without subscribing to the school. I'm afraid I am only acquainted with Marxism via sociology therefore my knowledge is limited. And from the little I do know I am content with not knowing anymore. It bores me at the best of times. Sounds cool and revolutionary but lots of hyperbole.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1513 - December 19, 2013, 09:52 PM

    You took notes at lectures? GEEK!

    I did that too when Abudur Raheem Green came to Teeside University to do a lecture on Evolution: Myth or Reality? in 1998/1999.


    Lol, lectures and courses, a lot of the ones I went to gave lecture notes/paper to write notes on.

    Wow, ARG has been around for a long time, I thought he was just in speakers corner around them times?

    "Make anyone believe their own knowledge and logic is insufficient and you'll have a puppet susceptible to manipulation."
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1514 - December 19, 2013, 10:15 PM

    One of the girls at college I used to go to (Nazia Y) gave me a lecture by Abdur Raheem Green. It was about Islam being the One True Religion and he was in speakers corner and said'Allah has said in the Quran that he will burn of the flesh, then replace it so that it would be burned again. How could an Aran know something that doctors are only discovering now? That the nerves transmit pain and once they are burned or severed that they must be replaced if one is to feel pain again. Allah knew this when decreeing the punishment for kafirs. MashAllah'. After that I was hooked. Now I think, what a sociopath! Who would revel in pain, real pain, eternal suffering a person. I'm not talking about someone playing Call of Duty or watching a SAW movie. But someone relishing that fact that BILLIONS of REAL HUMAN BEINGS will SUFFER for all of ETERNITY in HELL FIRE.

    Forgot to add that the VHS belonged to her brother. I stole it because I liked it that much. There was a young Abu Ameenah Billal Phillips on there too shouting down a Christian fellow. Nazia never asked for it back. I think she liked me. Even when I was all al-Muhajiroun. In fact she used to give me all these different leaflets about Islam. I remember reading one that said 'ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD'.

    I laugh at my former self. That's healthy hena?

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1515 - December 19, 2013, 10:39 PM

    ...........

    Wow, ARG has been around for a long time, I thought he was just in speakers corner around them times?


    Quote
    At a young age, Green began to question his Roman Catholic upbringing. However, at the age of 19, he stated that he would "vigorously defend" the faith, even though he did not actually believe in it. He also practiced Buddhism for nearly three years, though never formally embraced it.  In 1987, Green first became interested in Islam, picking up his first copy of the Qur'an.  Green embraced Islam in 1988, and has been a Dawah practitioner ever since.
     

    Green has two wives, both British-born Muslims of Indian origin, and (as of 2006) he has 10 children. n an interview given in 1997 Green admitted to being a polygamist. Whilst claiming two wives, Green was asked in the interview whether British law prohibits bigamy. Green responded "It does. Yet several Britishers are bigamists. But those who practise bigamy can protect the second marriage under the provisions of 'common law wives'. Under this children out of such marriages are legitimate and wives inherit property."


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1516 - December 19, 2013, 11:19 PM

    Quote
    said'Allah has said in the Quran that he will burn of the flesh, then replace it so that it would be burned again. How could an Aran know something that doctors are only discovering now? That the nerves transmit pain and once they are burned or severed that they must be replaced if one is to feel pain again. Allah knew this when decreeing the punishment for kafirs. MashAllah


    Both disturbing and pathetic. Also, something doctors are only discovering now? Roll Eyes

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1517 - December 20, 2013, 02:22 AM

    One of the girls at college I used to go to (Nazia Y) gave me a lecture by Abdur Raheem Green. It was about Islam being the One True Religion and he was in speakers corner and said'Allah has said in the Quran that he will burn of the flesh, then replace it so that it would be burned again. How could an Aran know something that doctors are only discovering now? That the nerves transmit pain and once they are burned or severed that they must be replaced if one is to feel pain again. Allah knew this when decreeing the punishment for kafirs. MashAllah'. After that I was hooked. Now I think, what a sociopath! Who would revel in pain, real pain, eternal suffering a person. I'm not talking about someone playing Call of Duty or watching a SAW movie. But someone relishing that fact that BILLIONS of REAL HUMAN BEINGS will SUFFER for all of ETERNITY in HELL FIRE.

    Forgot to add that the VHS belonged to her brother. I stole it because I liked it that much. There was a young Abu Ameenah Billal Phillips on there too shouting down a Christian fellow. Nazia never asked for it back. I think she liked me. Even when I was all al-Muhajiroun. In fact she used to give me all these different leaflets about Islam. I remember reading one that said 'ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD'.

    I laugh at my former self. That's healthy hena?


    Actually, was there not fire in that time and place, Makkah, in the Prophet's time? It is easy to observe that those who have been burned cannot feel properly again in that spot, and that their skin is not whole, even when healed.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1518 - December 20, 2013, 05:13 AM

    "If a woman's body is so sexualized to the point where every action has to be contemplated on the basis of avoiding sexual harassment, then it's still a "man's world."" -me

    "Work without hope draws nectar in a sieve, and hope without an object cannot live." -Coleridge

    http://sinofgreed.wordpress.com/
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     Reply #1519 - December 21, 2013, 12:57 AM




    That must be a very old article, because he hasn't had two wives for a long time now. I think the children count is 11 or 12 now with 2 grandchildren.

    "Make anyone believe their own knowledge and logic is insufficient and you'll have a puppet susceptible to manipulation."
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1520 - December 21, 2013, 04:07 AM

    "If a woman's body is so sexualized to the point where every action has to be contemplated on the basis of avoiding sexual harassment, then it's still a "man's world."" -me


    Now that is good.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1521 - December 21, 2013, 07:28 AM

    Thank you.

    "Work without hope draws nectar in a sieve, and hope without an object cannot live." -Coleridge

    http://sinofgreed.wordpress.com/
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1522 - January 02, 2014, 04:42 AM


    "You want a hot body? You want a Bugatti?
    You want a Maserati? You want a Lamborghini? Sippin' martinis?
    You better work bitch, you better work bitch
    You better work bitch, you better work bitch

    Work, work, work
    Work it out, work it out, work it out
    You better work bitch"

    -Britney Spears

    "In every religion there is love, yet love has no religion"

    "The intellectual runs away, afraid of drowning; the whole business of love is to drown in the sea." - Rumi
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1523 - January 02, 2014, 06:35 AM

    Please stop abusing logic. What did it ever do to you?


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1524 - January 03, 2014, 03:07 AM

    "If something burns your soul with purpose and desire, it's your duty to be reduced to ashes by it. Any other form of existence will be yet another dull book in the library of life."

    -Charles Bukowski. Who, in my opinion, is like Rod McKuen on steroids.

    I stumbled across this today. I was trying to explain this concept last month to DA, but about faith. I used some similar verbiage, and he said he would join Ummahdotcom with it. Good thing he did not. Maybe he would last a minute past the Salaam.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1525 - January 08, 2014, 04:56 AM

    “I
    have a face like a washrag. I sing
    love songs and carry steel.

    I would rather die than cry. I can't
    stand hounds can't live without them.
    I hang my head against the white
    refrigerator and want to scream like
    the last weeping of life forever but
    I am bigger than the mountains.”
    ― Charles Bukowski, Love is a Dog from Hell

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1526 - January 13, 2014, 06:12 AM

    If morality were objective wouldn't most if not all moral philosophers be out of a job(?)


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1527 - January 17, 2014, 03:02 PM

    "To see the world in a grain of sand and heaven in a wildflower, to hold infinity in the palm of your hand and eternity in an hour" - William Blake
     Love this! Brilliant quote

    ?It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.? - Aristotle
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1528 - January 17, 2014, 03:10 PM

    That must be a very old article, because he hasn't had two wives for a long time now. I think the children count is 11 or 12 now with 2 grandchildren.


    well that article says
    Quote
    Green has two wives, both British-born Muslims of Indian origin, and (as of 2006) he has 10 children.

     that means, that article is 7 year old  in dec 2013..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Quotes you would consider for your signature
     Reply #1529 - January 28, 2014, 02:45 AM

    T. S. Eliot, maybe some of them already posted but...

    “Footfalls echo in the memory, down the passage we did not take, towards the door we never opened, into the rose garden.”

    “Time for you and time for me,
    And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
    And for a hundred visions and revisions,
    Before the taking of a toast and tea.”

    “To do the useful thing, to say the courageous thing, to contemplate the beautiful thing: that is enough for one man's life.”

    “Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.”


    "In every religion there is love, yet love has no religion"

    "The intellectual runs away, afraid of drowning; the whole business of love is to drown in the sea." - Rumi
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