Losing my Religion

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Re: Losing my Religion
Reply #30 - August 26, 2011, 01:37 PM

Quote from: crazyislam on August 26, 2011, 08:17 AM
Do people miss prayers? I though you guys found it boring, rather? Might be just me, but the "beautiful azans" give me a goddamn migraine

believe it or not, I LOVED prayer! When I heard athan, it was like a lullaby for me,
soothing, comforting, and my favorite prayer was fajr. I even used to get up at like
2am (forgot the name of that prayer) and pray then, too. Prayer was really the only
comfort zone I had in islam. I relished it.

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Reply #31 - August 26, 2011, 01:51 PM

As a child the god programmes were popular, I remember 'touched by an angel' (poor choice of title ) and 'Stairway to heaven' where an angel turned up in a messed up person's life 'sent by god' to help. This made me feel such a deep sorrow. I was touched by tragedy at a young age, watched my family fall apart because of it and because of the bastards and I kept waiting for god, i really thought he'd come to help, I really believed it. I never believed in prayer etc but i really believed there was a loving god who chose what happens and I kept thinking 'now is the time it'll all end so we can be happy again'- years and years went by and it just got worse! I hated god for a while then realised the futility of this- the idea of god encompasses goodness- that there was no goodness lead me to conclude there probably is no god, or 'god is dead' so how can i hate a non existent person for not helping.

This really improved my psychological state of mind- I moved away from waiting and changed- all my life I existed in a state of apathy, of waiting. Suddenly I realised this life is all there is, nothing after so I best do my best! Now I work hard to make a good life for myself. I feel so much better mentally. I feel sad though that my family hate me for this- that they can't see the person I've become leaving that crap behind. I was spiralling down into depression, becoming an angry and bitter person and leaving the stupid ideas freed me from that. You'd think they'd be happy for me
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Reply #32 - August 26, 2011, 03:12 PM

Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on August 26, 2011, 01:37 PM
believe it or not, I LOVED prayer! When I heard athan, it was like a lullaby for me,
soothing, comforting, and my favorite prayer was fajr. I even used to get up at like
2am (forgot the name of that prayer) and pray then, too. Prayer was really the only
comfort zone I had in islam. I relished it.

Aha, then it's perhaps a personal thing.

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Reply #33 - August 26, 2011, 03:31 PM

Quote from: SunbulRocket on August 26, 2011, 01:04 PM
Y'all took your sweet fucking time, didn't you?

No need to rub your precocity in

قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
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Reply #34 - August 26, 2011, 03:54 PM

I liked the Azan, still do when I here it on the Arabic sat channels but didn't like the Islamic prayers, I love Dua'a , perhaps that's why I liked Christianity because dua'a and meditation was their prayers, just an open door and an open dialogue with God, when I prayed in the Islamic way, I was selective on which Ayah I recite, I only choose the ones that I knew it will mimic the open dialogue, such as surat Al-Sharh (Al-Shar7)

Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
You are the music while the music lasts.
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Reply #35 - August 26, 2011, 04:20 PM

You can still do meditation right? You don't need dogma for that?

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Reply #36 - August 26, 2011, 04:22 PM

The only prayers I like to hear is of hinduism, that too I heard while watching Garden state

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGG7-9Klcls

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Reply #37 - August 27, 2011, 07:24 PM

I never thought that I can do whatever I want... (because I was doing everything i wanted before leaving Islam) ..... the thing that doesn't get down my throat is forbidden for reasoning , and concept of eternal hell ....

Disbelief doesn't justify getting tortured in eternal hell
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Reply #38 - August 27, 2011, 07:40 PM

Mostly angry and upset that I spent my life falling in submission to more of an ideology than a real deity that ended up making so many people I knew miserable. I recounted all the times I ever felt like shit for feeling out of place because I had this overwhelming feeling that I had to align myself with being Muslim first despite being a multidimensional entity, all the tears and screaming I had to hear when people recalled their failed or failing marriages only kept together because it was "the will of Allah/Allah hates divorce" and the ridiculous amount of guilt my siblings and I had to go through because someone else had decided to make a decision regarding our religion/spirituality that we were expected to follow through on.

It took weeks for me to get out of the negative head space I put myself in and relieve myself of the anger and disappointment that swelled up over time. In between feelings of apprehensiveness about being settled on the issue of a metaphysical presence and relief of being free of dogmatic obligations, I still feel a little bit of frustration well up at times, unfortunately.

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Reply #39 - September 05, 2011, 03:29 AM

To be honest I'm not sure if I truly have lost it yet. I get "proofs" from my family and friends of supernatural occurrences and I guess I some what I'm skeptical only the other way around. Though every day I remove more and more doubts. I'm now at the point whether it truly doesn't matter. If Islam is true then this was my destiny and as a good person I'm just following God's exact words my living a life of sin and what not. I actually came to this site trying to see if I could actually clear my doubts(I pretended to act like I was giving dawah though). Still it's surreal to say that I'm among the very people that for years I've despised and hated. That being atheists.
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Reply #40 - September 05, 2011, 04:27 AM

To believe in some parts of a religion (islam) does not make you a muslim, and doesn't exempt you from being an atheist either. To be a muslim you have to believe in the entirity- all the message(s), all the quran. This is done easily by many who mould islam to suit their own ideas of morality etc. However, realistically, there is a general norm that you should adhere to re quran. One can't say the whole thing is false, as some parts are plain observations. For example, saying men, mostly, are stronger than women is not a lie, it's an observable fact. However, saying things like women are naturally inferior, making false science claims, etc are obviously incorrect

Regarding the supernatural *meh* you can believe in stuff and be atheist. There are many atheists who believe in magic, aliens, ghosts, etc. In fact, you can also believe in god (be a theist) and not be muslim.

If the message is divine then no parts would be wrong. If even one part is wrong then the whole thing is proven as written by man, not divinity.
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Losing my Religion
Reply #41 - April 21, 2014, 01:29 PM

this is touching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRCtUiykDeQ&list=PLi5ZAGZR9Wq9G5Da6rCuMO9FLcYKot836

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