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Reply #30 - September 18, 2010, 02:46 PM

Quote from: Abood on September 18, 2010, 02:40 PM
I see what you're saying. I'm not claiming that the movie has no plot. It's just that Tarantino overindulges in the violence, and the story isn't developed much beyond that.

There isn't that much violence in it, to be fair. Probably barely a few minutes of it in the whole film.

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Reply #31 - September 18, 2010, 02:49 PM

Not what I felt at all. I actually wanted to leave the theatre because the violence was getting over-the-top.

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This movie has the intensity of 'Reservoir Dogs,' the style of 'Pulp Fiction,' the violence of 'Kill Bill,' the adrenaline of 'Death Proof' and the characters of 'Jackie Brown.' It's really the greatest of Quentin's talents, all culminating in this film."

And, as you can see in the flick's trailer, Brad Pitt demands two essential things from his delightfully dirty soldiers: that they strike fear in the hearts of the German troops and that they bring him back hair.

"There are a lot of scalpings," Roth grinned wickedly. "He's not going to skimp on the scalping, let me tell you. Quentin based what the Basterds do on what the Apache Indians did. They would do what's known now as the Apache Resistance, where they would capture people and horribly mutilate them, scalp them, torture them, cut them up and leave one person alive. Then, [the survivor] would go back to the cavalry and describe what happened — and the psychological warfare got so strong that if the cavalry came across a bunch of Apache Indians, they would just take their guns and shoot themselves in the heads and shoot each other in the heads because of the horror of what had been described to them. ... This is what the Jews are doing to the Nazis. We get these Nazis and we scalp them, and we beat them to death with a baseball bat."

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Reply #32 - September 18, 2010, 03:03 PM

What violence though?

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Reply #33 - September 18, 2010, 03:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1r1sWiIbyA
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Reply #34 - September 18, 2010, 03:13 PM

Exactly. 5 mins of violence in a film thats 2 hours 30 mins long. All the violence back to back, against heavy metal. It's not like thats an accurate representation of the film.

And those scenes are fucking great btw! I wanna watch it again now.

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Reply #35 - September 18, 2010, 03:16 PM

Quote from: Ishina on September 18, 2010, 02:44 PM
And also the delicious irony of the end, once the layers have built up. The propaganda film Nation’s Pride is also a central theme. It’s a movie within a movie. There is a reversal really, an about-turn, when we see the Nazi’s Nation’s Pride enjoying and laughing at all the Allied troops getting killed in the movie. We might love to hate them for it too, maybe think they are shallow or outright henious monsters for doing so, for enjoying it so much. And then we might find ourselves shortly afterwards doing exactly the same, enjoying it and laughing when the tables turn, when they meet an eerily simmilar fate.

Yes indeed.

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Reply #36 - September 18, 2010, 03:17 PM

I highly doubt the montage included every single second of violence in the movie. It's just snapshots from violent scenes.

Also, I have no contention that the scenes were great. I just find them meaningless in context.
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Reply #37 - September 18, 2010, 03:17 PM

Quote from: Ishina on September 18, 2010, 03:13 PM
I wanna watch it again now.

Me too!

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Reply #38 - September 18, 2010, 03:18 PM

Quote from: Abood on September 18, 2010, 03:17 PM
I highly doubt the montage included every single second of violence in the movie. It's just snapshots from violent scenes.

Fair enough if you don't like the violent scenes in it, then you can criticise it on the basis of personal taste.

But it is much more than that.

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Reply #39 - September 18, 2010, 03:23 PM

Quote from: Abood on September 18, 2010, 03:17 PM
I highly doubt the montage included every single second of violence in the movie. It's just snapshots from violent scenes.

Hmm, nah I think thats actually all the violence in it. Can you recall anymore? I can't.

Think about the bar scene. Loads of tension and build up, loads of dialogue and suspense. Then the shit hits the fan and its over in a few seconds.

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Reply #40 - September 18, 2010, 03:28 PM

I don't need to prove to you how I felt the violence was over-the-top. Even if that was everything in the movie in terms of violence (which, again, I highly doubt, since the montage cut right in the middle of the violence in the scenes), maybe I felt it was over-the-top because it was too gory. And it's not like I'm the only person who thinks that. Many people do.
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Reply #41 - September 18, 2010, 03:31 PM

Quote from: billy on September 18, 2010, 03:18 PM
Fair enough if you don't like the violent scenes in it, then you can criticise it on the basis of personal taste.

But it is much more than that.

Like I said, I felt that the violence was over-the-top and thus overshadows the story. Of course it's based on personal taste.
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Reply #42 - September 18, 2010, 03:33 PM

Ok.

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Reply #43 - September 18, 2010, 04:10 PM

Quote from: Abood on September 18, 2010, 03:31 PM
Like I said, I felt that the violence was over-the-top and thus overshadows the story. Of course it's based on personal taste.

Well, the ostensible story is about how Adolf Hitler and the entire command of the Third Reich are assassinated by undercover Jewish commandoes by setting fire to a cinema and machine gunning them. Whilst referencing almost every genre of WWII movie, especially 1970's Italian exploitation Nazi killing men-on-a-mission B flicks.

So the violence does take place in this alternative universe that Tarantino creates on the borderline of absurdity, fantasy and reality, all the while investing emotion and empathy with characters like Shosanna that keeps us grounded as an audience.

Its all part of the vibe.

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Reply #44 - September 18, 2010, 04:10 PM

Quote from: Ishina on September 18, 2010, 03:23 PM
Hmm, nah I think thats actually all the violence in it. Can you recall anymore? I can't.

Think about the bar scene. Loads of tension and build up, loads of dialogue and suspense. Then the shit hits the fan and its over in a few seconds.

What a scene

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Reply #45 - September 18, 2010, 04:16 PM

Again, I'm not disputing Tarantino's talent as a director. But did he really keep the viewer grounded through the girl's story? I really didn't feel it. I'll have to watch it again, but my impression after watching the movie was as I stated.
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Reply #46 - September 19, 2010, 10:40 AM

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But did he really keep the viewer grounded through the girl's story?

Yes, I think he did. As well as the brilliant writing, the mesmerising performance of Christopher Waltz, and everything else. It works well.

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