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OP - June 25, 2014, 11:18 PM

Wow, at least he is honest!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHfSpIIRhFw

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Reply #1 - June 25, 2014, 11:28 PM

Quote from: INcePtion on June 25, 2014, 11:18 PM
Wow, at least he is honest!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHfSpIIRhFw

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that guy is John Shelby "Jack" Spong, a retired American bishop of the Episcopal Church. From 1979 to 2000 and he was Bishop of Newark AMRIKA . He is a liberal Christian theologian, religion commentator and author. He calls for a fundamental rethinking of Christian belief away from theism and traditional doctrines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhW48fRns_4

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/735-john-shelby-spong-anglican-nightmare

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John Shelby Spong has long been known as the “nightmare” of the more conservative element of the Anglican Church in America. He is as radically liberal as it is possible to be — and still maintain a nominal identification with the name “Christian.”

Spong’s view of God

Spong’s “god” is not the God of the Hebrew/Christian Scriptures. According to a sympathetic reviewer, the ex-bishop believes that the traditional view2 of God is dead and that “most theological God-talk today is meaningless.”

Spong’s idea3 is that Jehovah is not even an independent entity; rather, the god-essence — whatever that is — is merely something “deep within us.” This is not biblical theism; it is a form of paganistic “pantheism”

Spong and Darwin

Spong is saturated with Darwinism. He believes4 the Genesis record regarding the origin of man is “pre-Darwinian mythology” and “post-Darwinian nonsense.” In this, he casts reflection upon the Savior (Mt. 19:4). Such aspersions, however, trouble the gentleman not at all. He claims5 there are passages in the Gospels that portray Jesus as “narrow-minded, vindictive, and even hypocritical.”

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Reply #2 - June 25, 2014, 11:31 PM

Sweden't former archbishop K G Hammar denied the virgin birth or that Jesus walked on water.

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Reply #3 - June 25, 2014, 11:39 PM

I wonder if there ever will be an Imam saying that hell and heaven is BS.
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Reply #4 - June 26, 2014, 12:01 AM

Quote from: Cornflower on June 25, 2014, 11:31 PM
Sweden't former archbishop K G Hammar denied the virgin birth or that Jesus walked on water.

I'm fairly certain the original tale/prophecy isn't specify born of a virgin, but born of a young girl. Actually, at that point in time was a virgin a girl who hadn't given birth, or was that a point of view of an earlier time?

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #5 - June 26, 2014, 05:12 AM

Quote from: INcePtion on June 25, 2014, 11:39 PM
I wonder if there ever will be an Imam saying that hell and heaven is BS.

he will be decapitated as soon as he says that
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Reply #6 - July 04, 2014, 01:28 PM

At school (in Poland), at religious education we were taught that hell doesn't exist with all thisfire and burning. That it's simply "tthe absence of God"
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Reply #7 - July 04, 2014, 03:52 PM

I've heard that one too? I think I could take it. If God doesn't like me, I don't like him!
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Reply #8 - July 04, 2014, 04:36 PM

Love your way of thinking Iua
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Reply #9 - July 04, 2014, 09:42 PM

exmuslimah, have you read this? You must give us your thoughts.

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=24124.0

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
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Reply #10 - July 04, 2014, 10:17 PM

Quod Sum Eris, I feel so important, somebody wants to hear my opinion
I read it and love it, wrote my thoughts under that post.
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Reply #11 - July 05, 2014, 01:19 AM

Of course we want to hear your opinions! And your comment was spot-on.
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Reply #12 - July 05, 2014, 04:05 AM

Quote from: exmuslimah on July 04, 2014, 01:28 PM
At school (in Poland), at religious education we were taught that hell doesn't exist with all thisfire and burning. That it's simply "tthe absence of God"

Imo, there IS no heaven, hell, or spirits.

The only thing CLOSE to a spirit is our consciousness which is basically the "user interface" of our brain.

When we die, the consciousness simply stops being used by the brain because the brain is a receiver of this consciousness and thus consciousness lives on but YOU die.

The dated idea of religion to give comfort that our individuality and life will live on after death with our consciousness but even though our consciousness lives on, our person is gone because it's our brain that makes the memories and everything but our consciousness is what interprets everything.

New study says that consciousness isn't from the brain itself but, rather, the brain is like a receiver similar to a TV antenna and stuff and picks up signal which is our consciousness.
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Reply #13 - July 05, 2014, 04:46 PM

Quote from: Nergal on July 05, 2014, 04:05 AM

New study says that consciousness isn't from the brain itself but, rather, the brain is like a receiver similar to a TV antenna and stuff and picks up signal which is our consciousness.

I'd like to know where you got that information from.
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Reply #14 - July 16, 2014, 03:47 PM

sure thing Inception, a scientist named Pim Van Lommel did experiments on Near-Death experiences and wrote a book on his experiences

Eindeloos Bewustzijn: een wetenschappelijke visie op de Bijna-Dood Ervaring (English: Endless Consciousness: A scientific approach to the near-death experience)

He states that consciousness is something like a radio wave going to a radio and that our brain is basically like a receiver device that catches the consciousness wave.

Thing is, I believe there should be more experiments to see if this is outright true.
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Reply #15 - July 16, 2014, 04:07 PM

Quote from: Nergal on July 16, 2014, 03:47 PM
sure thing Inception, a scientist named Pim Van Lommel did experiments on Near-Death experiences and wrote a book on his experiences

Eindeloos Bewustzijn: een wetenschappelijke visie op de Bijna-Dood Ervaring (English: Endless Consciousness: A scientific approach to the near-death experience)

He states that consciousness is something like a radio wave going to a radio and that our brain is basically like a receiver device that catches the consciousness wave.

Thing is, I believe there should be more experiments to see if this is outright true.

how are you doing Nergal ? dr.. Pim Van Lommel is wrong in many ways when it comes to that Experimental medicine..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8scc2YbXUk

there are plenty of books on that subject not just Pim Van Lommel's book... I AM NOT SAYING dr.. Pim Van Lommel is completely Wrong.. but long way to go to prove such concept..

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