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 Topic: World Atheist Convention 2012

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  • Re: World Atheist Convention 2012
     Reply #90 - September 05, 2011, 11:26 PM

    You know, I've been reflecting on these things. In truth I don't know much about all this stuff. At times I make a comment only to later realise I was/am wrong. I think in this circular way when I'm not convinced of any particular argument/view/etc. I don't know what I think in general, all I know is sometimes it's fun to moan.

    Am I smug, shallow, narcisstic, etc?

    I think that's unfair. Do I sometimes waver between self love and self loathing? This is more correct

    I was giving this real thought. What DO I feel about money. Truthfully I never cared before, and I never worked to getting any/lots. I was happy with less. However, life showed me how wrong I was. Living in a muslim/indian community, all they value (not every muslim/indian- talking about my community) is wealth and showing it off, to the extent of hiring fancy cars to pretend to be 'better'- this world is one where money and level (education, what job you have) determines your worth. Failing that, clinging to religion, donning the nikaab etc is a mark of superiority.

    In my life in light of this I felt pissed off at these assholes who assert this. I felt so angry that I was determined to 'make it', to 'prove my worth' to show people I'm something too. This is not about me thinking others are low for not having money, but about the projection of this onto me from others. I feel like saying 'see, I'm something too now' little realising that by saying this I'm implying the same bollocks them assholes preach, that wealth etc determines a persons worth. I fluctuate between what is right and good, I don't know.

    Many times I feel I really am childishly ignorant. I can be smart, yes, but like a child in many ways.

    In a way I am smug, then I regret it when I realise that it makes me an asshole. I'm not being smug to general people but to those who made me feel worthless. Smug by saying 'look at me now' like the ugly girl in high school growing up into a babe, desperate to go to the bullies and say 'haha look at me now'- it's what you say you'll say when you're struggling, when I succeed I'll show you! But then you do it and you just feel stupid. You realise that you sound like them.

    Sometimes I am smug, shallow, narcisstic. I sometimes feel I'm the best, better than every single person. Then I feel low, worthless, the worst person to have ever existed. I think there's a clinical term for this- is it manic? bipolar? Or just plain crazy?

    Is it just me like this? Or do other people feel this way too? I read/listen to others and they're so straight, consistent. I'm all over the place. One day I'll say black and fight that it's black, then the next I'll be convinced it's white, only to return the next day and see shades of gray. And round and round it goes.

    If you have me figured out then great, PLEASE write a report for me and message it to me cos I don't know who I am. I feel like I don't know anything. I'm on the fence about so many things, fighting one side only to realise it's wrong, fighting the other only to realise that's wrong too. Maybe the problem is every idea is right AND wrong, or like I said, maybe I'm just crazy

    If you read this thanks, sorry it's so long!
  • Re: World Atheist Convention 2012
     Reply #91 - September 05, 2011, 11:36 PM

    Impressed at the level of reflection in this post. I should clarify-- and I probably should have made this clearer earlier, but I didn't cause I was annoyed-- I have no reason to believe you are a bad person, it's just that some of the shit you said come off as arrogant and rubbed me the wrong way. But anyone who manages to not let my insults just suck them deeper into a shit-slinging fest can't be that bad, and indeed is worthy of some measure of respect for their candor.  Afro

    I'm sufficiently satisfied that you are being sincere and are a decent enough person, so I will refrain from trolling you on this topic from now on, with the understanding that you came across badly but I was also overly harsh on you. If you'd like to discuss the topic (capitalism, socialism, role of labor and capital, etc) at a later time without it getting personal I'm up for it, but done debating you on this thread and apologies for any unwarranted insults/trolling.

    fuck you
  • Re: World Atheist Convention 2012
     Reply #92 - September 05, 2011, 11:46 PM

    I think those topics seem so interesting but I seriously can't read about them, they are too boring! I'd love to read about these broken down to the juicy/relevant bits in an easy to understand way (I like analogies!)

    Maybe start a thread when you have time?

    Re the insults, it's cool. Sometimes ridicule is a good attack against something that's wrong- or something like that (been reading Dawkins). It allows me to see how I'm coming across, which allows me to reflect and consider if I'm right or wrong.

    That said, I'm making no claims that from now on I'll be wonderful and totally unoffensive and feel free to raise an issue if my points come accross as such. The purpose of communication is to teach and learn, imo. If I think something it's never carved in stone, only a temporary thought awaiting further knowledge so I'm likely to alter my views depending on the logic of an opposing argument. Of course there are some things I won't budge on even if you provide the most logical and comprehensive info (such as women being inferior  Tongue ). I suppose this is a characteristic that lead me out of Islam.
  • Re: World Atheist Convention 2012
     Reply #93 - September 05, 2011, 11:50 PM

    Awww, I just love happy endings.

     sad

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: World Atheist Convention 2012
     Reply #94 - September 05, 2011, 11:56 PM

    Awww, I just love happy endings.

     sad


    Go watch the Disney channel then, I wanted to see a fight.  finmad

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: World Atheist Convention 2012
     Reply #95 - September 06, 2011, 12:33 AM

    I don't care how you disparage me Berbs, you big freaks just need to get over here and give me a group hug!

     Big hug

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: World Atheist Convention 2012
     Reply #96 - September 06, 2011, 05:04 AM

    Awww, I just love happy endings.

     sad



    +1 Good for you 2, Q and Saffire. 13

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: World Atheist Convention 2012
     Reply #97 - September 06, 2011, 12:59 PM

    For the record I still think the video clip I posted here while we were still fighting was brilliant.  Tongue

    Cute-ass avatar, allat.

    fuck you
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