People who have tried to meet the Quran's challenge?

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Re: People who have tried to meet the Quran's challenge?
Reply #90 - February 13, 2009, 06:07 PM

Quote from: Baal on January 26, 2009, 10:22 PM
Quote from: Buster on January 26, 2009, 06:25 PM
TT was a misogynistic nutcase.

And Hassan think I should hang around with him.

I can't see that. Are you sure? You two have alot of daylight between you.
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Reply #91 - May 21, 2009, 06:30 PM

Quote from: Hassan on January 19, 2009, 06:54 PM
I think it was pretty good - but as I said before such judgments about what is better or not when dealing with beauty and style in language is very subjective.

I took this issue up with a member of a Muslim forum whilst I was having my doubts about Islam. He was a graduate in Mathematics if I remember correctly. He insisted that the Qur'an and other arabic poems can be objectively measured for its beauty. Presumeably then, a yardstick can be devised and every poem can be measured against it and given a figure or a percentage. Obviously, the Qur'an comes out with 100%. I argued with him on two grounds:

1. Beauty is subjective
2. Even if it was subjective, I find it hard to see how there could be maximal or perfect beauty (i.e. 100%), but rather, continuous beauty that can keep on escalating.

He insisted that the Qur'an was of maximal objective beauty but that he couldn't explain it to me until I learn the Arabic language. I remember thinking at the time that if he is right, then that would probably be the only good reason for converting to Islam, in which case, if you are going to convert to Islam for good reasons (as most Muslims would say you have to anyway) then it seems that Arabs have a hugely unfair advantage over us in life, since we have to learn Arabic quick before we die and go to hell! In which case, the only good reason for converting to Islam would entail stronger evidence that that God was amazingly unjust, lol.

Still, a very intriguing topic..

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Re: People who have tried to meet the Quran's challenge?
Reply #92 - May 21, 2009, 06:49 PM

I know that this is an old & long thread, started before I joined & my apologies if this has been posted before, but Sam Wells who runs the SAB site has made his own Surah in response to Allah's surah, here it is!

Here is surah 111 (Palm Fibre) for example.
The power of Abu Lahab will perish, and he will perish.
His wealth and gains will not exempt him.
He will be plunged in flaming Fire,
And his wife, the wood-carrier,
Will have upon her neck a halter of palm-fibre.

And here is a surah that was written in response (I'm not sure who the author was, but I saw it first in Waterrock's commentary on Surah 10:31-52.)
In the name of Marvin, most-merciful, all-compassionate:
Damn both hands of my neighbor Sam; damn him!
His money and children will not save him!
He will be burnt in a blazing flame --
Sam and his dame, who is also to blame.
As she was carrying wood to her home,
She put some thorns in the path where I roam.
So she shall suffer a torment most dire,
Dangling in hell from a noose of palm-fibre.

I thought this was hilarious!

World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
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Re: People who have tried to meet the Quran's challenge?
Reply #93 - May 22, 2009, 09:33 AM

Thanks Rashna, that is brilliant!

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