What Comes After Apostasy

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Re: What Comes After Apostasy
Reply #30 - October 22, 2008, 07:40 PM

***I'll hazard that most religionists are 'social religionists', who go around being religious when there's no one to watch, save a crazy few, including myself? Cynical I know, but this is what I seriously think. I didn't so much practise religion because there were people to see. For a long time I didn't practise the rituals but maintained the outward appearance for cultural reasons. Then I started practising everything because I had nothing much to lose. I was doing half of it anyway, had no choice about it ultimately, so why not practise it all properly?***

I don't think that's cynical, LadyofShalott: I think it's refreshingly honest. If only everyone who now feel the way you once did would come clean, these survey statistics that keep being thrown at us would look much different and agnostiism and atheism would actually top the bill, I suspect. Some suggestion in these figure that 'coming out' would actually be 'coming in' might make one heck of a difference in promoting reason among the luke-warm and alert politicians to the fact that although governments often feel they cannot be fully secular, voters can. Now, what a wonderful change that might bring about, eh? Cheers. Neil

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Reply #31 - October 22, 2008, 09:57 PM

Quote from: osmanthus on October 22, 2008, 11:28 AM
Ingenico, please do not use red text when quoting other members. The quote function is easy to use, as I explained to you in a pm. We run a variety of themes to give our members freedom of choice and whatever colour you select will be hard to read on some backgrounds. If you let the theme's css take care of the text colours there wont be any problem.

Sorry, old habit from a different forum with a different system. As I said, I'm not as au fait as some with computers.
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Reply #32 - August 14, 2009, 11:11 PM

I staggered for a bit before becoming an atheist. I always had niggling doubts since my early teens and it was gradual for me. I went from muslim -> theist -> deist -> agnostic -> atheist.
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Reply #33 - August 14, 2009, 11:22 PM

I don't know what i would 'class' myself as.

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Reply #34 - August 14, 2009, 11:22 PM

Quote from: ingenico10 on October 21, 2008, 12:54 AM
A gay guy in the US. He said he gets more grief for being an atheist than he does for being gay.

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Re: What Comes After Apostasy
Reply #35 - August 14, 2009, 11:23 PM

Quote from: Meredith on August 14, 2009, 11:22 PM
I don't know what i would 'class' myself as.

Does that mean you're an agnostic

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Reply #36 - August 14, 2009, 11:25 PM

I don't know and I don't care what's up there...
I guess I'm agnostic. (H)

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Like Islame said... You're not knowing, so an agnostic... xD

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Reply #37 - August 14, 2009, 11:28 PM

Quote from: IsLame on August 14, 2009, 11:23 PM
Does that mean you're an agnostic

LOL

I guess
But i have always held a perception of agnostics as fence sitters who can't choose now i am one =P

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Reply #38 - August 14, 2009, 11:28 PM

Hassans was the best ever

Quote from: Hassan
I am a freethinking deist, with agnostic tendencies and atheistic moments

We were even going to print some t-shirts off for him, but the words would not fit!

Hass - is this still your stance?

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Reply #39 - August 14, 2009, 11:31 PM

Quote from: Meredith on August 14, 2009, 11:28 PM
But i have always held a perception of agnostics as fence sitters who can't choose now i am one =P

Hey, I'm agnostic but not because I'm a fence sitter.

Its because we cannot really know, so I am just being honest!

The only thing I am totally sure about is that an Abrahmic God cannot exist as he contradicts himself, everything else is plausible.

After all who's to say the universe itself isnt God, and exhibits supernatural tendencies? However this is in no way to undermine free-enquiry, the one thing we do know is that science works, and until every stone is turned and we do know, then we should never stop.

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Reply #40 - August 14, 2009, 11:37 PM

I agree, no need to explain it

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Reply #41 - August 14, 2009, 11:49 PM

Quote from: IsLame on August 14, 2009, 11:31 PM
Hey, I'm agnostic but not because I'm a fence sitter.

Its because we cannot really know, so I am just being honest!

The only thing I am totally sure about is that an Abrahmic God cannot exist as he contradicts himself, everything else is plausible.

After all who's to say the universe itself isnt God, and exhibits supernatural tendencies? However this is in no way to undermine free-enquiry, the one thing we do know is that science works, and until every stone is turned and we do know, then we should never stop.

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Reply #42 - August 15, 2009, 12:01 AM

Quote from: IsLame on August 14, 2009, 11:31 PM
Hey, I'm agnostic but not because I'm a fence sitter.

Its because we cannot really know, so I am just being honest!

The only thing I am totally sure about is that an Abrahmic God cannot exist as he contradicts himself, everything else is plausible.

After all who's to say the universe itself isnt God, and exhibits supernatural tendencies? However this is in no way to undermine free-enquiry, the one thing we do know is that science works, and until every stone is turned and we do know, then we should never stop.

Well said man..

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Reply #43 - August 15, 2009, 09:58 AM

Quote from: IsLame on August 14, 2009, 11:28 PM
Hassans was the best ever

We were even going to print some t-shirts off for him, but the words would not fit!

Hass - is this still your stance?

Yes, pretty much - I might drop the deist bit and just stick with freethinking Agnostic with atheistic moments
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Reply #44 - August 15, 2009, 10:01 AM

You are edging ever closer to that magic word.
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Reply #45 - August 15, 2009, 10:05 AM

lol
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