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  • Ex-Muslim
     OP - September 09, 2009, 02:59 PM

    Hi everyone, I am 26 year old married mother of three.  I finally feel free!  Islam has been a burden for my whole life. I was born in Canada into a moderately religious family.  It was not until I was 16 that my parents and all my relatives started to become annoyingly religious.  Since I wasn't the model muslim, they shipped me off to Syria for some straightening up.  I did.  I was brainwashed then I came back to Canada hijab and all.  I was 18 then.  2 months later I was pressured to marry my cousin, a moderately religious man.  It was not until recently that my sister (who regretfully lives in Syria with her extremely religious husband) came for a visit that we discussed the topic of Islam.  It was then that we both realized that we were both having doubts about the authenticity of the quran and especially of the hadith.  The prophet was also a major issue for me, having married a child. 
     
         It is now ramadan, and it is my first ramadan that I don't fast.  Of course everyone thinks that I am fasting.  I have to keep my apostasy a secret, for if anyone knew and as everyone knows, I would be basically shunned.  I wear the hijab but plan on taking it off after ramadan.  I just hate being classified as a muslim just because of that.  I hate wearing it and have for a very long time.  I don't feel bad anymore for not praying.  I'm not constantly scared that I'm going to hell.  I don't exactly know where I stand on the whole God issue, but at least I know now that I can never go back to being a devout muslim.  I actually feel sorry for all the muslim people living in a bubble.

    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.

    Atheism: A non-prophet organization.

    Which is it, is man one of God?s blunders or is God one of man?s?
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #1 - September 09, 2009, 03:09 PM

    Welcome to the forum. Glad you joined us. Please share a bio with us.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #2 - September 09, 2009, 03:14 PM

    @2o years, I thought that was a pretty good bio in itself Tongue

    Welcome Reemz. Glad you're not having any problems from becoming unstuck to Islam, besides the whole community thing. You're doing pretty good for yourself right there. Afro

    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #3 - September 09, 2009, 03:24 PM

    Hi everyone, I am 26 year old married mother of three.  I finally feel free!  Islam has been a burden for my whole life. I was born in Canada into a moderately religious family.  It was not until I was 16 that my parents and all my relatives started to become annoyingly religious.  Since I wasn't the model muslim, they shipped me off to Syria for some straightening up.  I did.  I was brainwashed then I came back to Canada hijab and all.  I was 18 then.  2 months later I was pressured to marry my cousin, a moderately religious man.  It was not until recently that my sister (who regretfully lives in Syria with her extremely religious husband) came for a visit that we discussed the topic of Islam.  It was then that we both realized that we were both having doubts about the authenticity of the quran and especially of the hadith.  The prophet was also a major issue for me, having married a child. 
     
         It is now ramadan, and it is my first ramadan that I don't fast.  Of course everyone thinks that I am fasting.  I have to keep my apostasy a secret, for if anyone knew and as everyone knows, I would be basically shunned.  I wear the hijab but plan on taking it off after ramadan.  I just hate being classified as a muslim just because of that.  I hate wearing it and have for a very long time.  I don't feel bad anymore for not praying.  I'm not constantly scared that I'm going to hell.  I don't exactly know where I stand on the whole God issue, but at least I know now that I can never go back to being a devout muslim.  I actually feel sorry for all the muslim people living in a bubble.



    Hi Reems,

    it was nice reading about ur life now.

    but please tell me how do u hide the fact ur not a muslim anymore? I mean when ur not praying or fasting doesnt ur husband wonder why? obvouisly with fasting you just dont eat in front of him, but still it must be VERY difficult...how do u get round it?

    im finding it particularly difficult as my dad asked me a few times if i am keeping my fasts etc coz i think sometimes he can sense that im not fasting. my mum knows how i feel about islam, but she doesnt get angry, she just says that i shud beleive etc. but i dont blame her. she is a traditional women who was brainwahsed back in the days.

  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #4 - September 09, 2009, 03:28 PM

    You sound like a strong woman Reemz - and long may it continue. How did you stumble across this site?

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  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #5 - September 09, 2009, 03:30 PM

    Its my first ramadan to not fast too , and as for prayers , they cannot suspect me cause i was a devout muslim ,but i try to pray occasionally and make sure i am seen  bunny

    أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وأن محمدآ عبده ورسوله
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #6 - September 09, 2009, 03:31 PM

    ...but i try to pray occasionally and make sure i am seen  bunny

     Cheesy

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    My Blog  pccoffee
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #7 - September 09, 2009, 03:35 PM

    I just googled ex muslim to see what I would find, and I found this awesome site

    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.

    Atheism: A non-prophet organization.

    Which is it, is man one of God?s blunders or is God one of man?s?
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #8 - September 09, 2009, 03:37 PM

    Hi Reemz,

    Congrats on this momentous step in your life.  How old are your children?  Are they old enough to know about religion and how do you propose breaking the news to them about your apostasy when they are old enough to understand?  I must say that you are lucky you live in Canada.  I'm from the States so have experienced the Muslim community on both sides of the pond and have found that the Muslim community in the UK is much more insular and hard core than any community I was involved with in the States.

    Such a shame your parents felt the need to send you off to Syria to 'straighten you out' and then pressured you into marrying your cousin.  Just goes to show how religious dogma can turn parents against their own children at times!  wacko

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #9 - September 09, 2009, 03:46 PM

    Welcome brave lady. Its amazing how you have managed to withstand all this, get forcibly married, and now have THREE kids!  far away hug

    Raising kids with a Muslim father has to be extremely difficult. How will the kids be raised ?

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #10 - September 09, 2009, 03:59 PM

    Welcome Reem... Smiley

    "I'm Agnostic about God."

    Richard Dawkins
    ==
    "If there is a God, it has to be a man; no woman could or would ever fuck things up like this."
     George Carlin == "...The so-called moderates are actually the public relations arm of Al-Qaeda and the Islamic Republic of Iran."  Maryam Namazie
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #11 - September 09, 2009, 07:45 PM

    Welcome Reemz Smiley Does your husband know about your doubts? If not do you ever plan on telling him? How would he feel if you took off the hijab?
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #12 - September 09, 2009, 07:59 PM

    Hi everyone, I am 26 year old married mother of three.  I finally feel free!  Islam has been a burden for my whole life. I was born in Canada into a moderately religious family.  It was not until I was 16 that my parents and all my relatives started to become annoyingly religious.  Since I wasn't the model muslim, they shipped me off to Syria for some straightening up.  I did.  I was brainwashed then I came back to Canada hijab and all.  I was 18 then.  2 months later I was pressured to marry my cousin, a moderately religious man.  It was not until recently that my sister (who regretfully lives in Syria with her extremely religious husband) came for a visit that we discussed the topic of Islam.  It was then that we both realized that we were both having doubts about the authenticity of the quran and especially of the hadith.  The prophet was also a major issue for me, having married a child.  
     
         It is now ramadan, and it is my first ramadan that I don't fast.  Of course everyone thinks that I am fasting.  I have to keep my apostasy a secret, for if anyone knew and as everyone knows, I would be basically shunned.  I wear the hijab but plan on taking it off after ramadan.  I just hate being classified as a muslim just because of that.  I hate wearing it and have for a very long time.  I don't feel bad anymore for not praying.  I'm not constantly scared that I'm going to hell.  I don't exactly know where I stand on the whole God issue, but at least I know now that I can never go back to being a devout muslim.  I actually feel sorry for all the muslim people living in a bubble.



    Welcome Reem - good for you  - is your husband Muslim? How are you going to deal with that if he is and what about the kids?
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #13 - September 09, 2009, 10:35 PM

    Yes he is muslim, but not a religious one at that.  As for the kids, I am just going to raise them to be good people.  I used to want to take them to Islamic schools but now it doesn't really matter anymore.

    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.

    Atheism: A non-prophet organization.

    Which is it, is man one of God?s blunders or is God one of man?s?
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #14 - September 09, 2009, 10:42 PM

    Yes he is muslim, but not a religious one at that.  As for the kids, I am just going to raise them to be good people.  I used to want to take them to Islamic schools but now it doesn't really matter anymore.


    Good for you  Afro Hope it all works out.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #15 - September 09, 2009, 10:43 PM

    My children are twin 7 year old girls and a three year old boy.  I don't plan on tell them anything of course until they are much older.  I don't want to confuse them or worse, have them say something to my husband.
     Being in Canada has its goods and bads though.  You would be surprised to see how many muslims live in my city, its crazy!
    The funny thing about me marrying my cousin is that my mom regrets it and so do I but after 3 kids it's harder to make any drastic drastic changes like that.  It isn't so bad though.  At least my husband isn't religious.  He drinks sometimes, smokes, doesn't pray, goes to the casino.  I used to be the religious one.

    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.

    Atheism: A non-prophet organization.

    Which is it, is man one of God?s blunders or is God one of man?s?
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #16 - September 09, 2009, 10:48 PM

    Yes he is muslim, but not a religious one at that.  As for the kids, I am just going to raise them to be good people.  I used to want to take them to Islamic schools but now it doesn't really matter anymore.


    Good call!  Forcing religion on young children from my observations tends to have the opposite effect on them than what the parents were hoping for.




    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #17 - September 09, 2009, 10:48 PM

    My children are twin 7 year old girls and a three year old boy.  I don't plan on tell them anything of course until they are much older.  I don't want to confuse them or worse, have them say something to my husband.
     Being in Canada has its goods and bads though.  You would be surprised to see how many muslims live in my city, its crazy!
    The funny thing about me marrying my cousin is that my mom regrets it and so do I but after 3 kids it's harder to make any drastic drastic changes like that.  It isn't so bad though.  At least my husband isn't religious.  He drinks sometimes, smokes, doesn't pray, goes to the casino.  I used to be the religious one.


    So long as he is happy with you not raising your kids in a religious way then, hopefully there will be no problem. But I have to say that I know a few drinking, smoking and gambling Muslims who turn into Sheikh al-Azhar when it comes to their kids.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #18 - September 09, 2009, 11:12 PM

    Well hopefully this guy wont and she can only play it by ear anyway and see how it goes.  Afro

    Welcome to the forum, reemz. Make yourself at home. 

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #19 - September 09, 2009, 11:17 PM

    In my experience they become shiekh al azhar when it comes to their daughters in particular, I suppose they know how most men think

    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #20 - September 09, 2009, 11:46 PM

    Mate that applies to non-Muslim fathers too. It has nothing (or not much) to do with Islam itself. grin12

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #21 - September 10, 2009, 06:26 AM

    Marhaba Reemz, 20yrs ago you would walk in muslim countries and not see women in veils. Now it is the fashion. I would not wait till the end of ramadan to remove the hijab, remove it now and tell people you had a spiritual revelation.

    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #22 - September 10, 2009, 09:17 AM

    Welcome to the forum, I'm a mum of 3 too, only without the hubby anymore, thank goodness.  Makes things much easier with teaching the kids stuff.  I don't tell them much, just fix the crap they get told by other religious people.

    Glad you found us, being among like minded people is a big help during this transition of your worldview.  Smiley

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #23 - September 10, 2009, 11:59 AM

    Glad you found us, being among like minded people is a big help during this transition of your worldview.  Smiley


    Hello Reem, I still live in a strict Muslim country and it is very hard to play Muslim I agree. My wife was and is still having problems especially in Ramadan from people who torment her with how sinful she is without the Hijab. I encouraged her since the beginning of our Marriage not wear the Hijab, way long before she knew I don't believe in Islam or any other religion.

    I myself get very upset and annoyed and furious when other men (relatives or friends) asks me to order my wife to put on the veil or the Hijab. I snap and tell them that I am not Allah and neither they are. I tell them that this is something between her and her creator.... of course it is very very early for their primitive thick brain to understand that I no longer believe an entity that supposedly created us naked then some reason changed its mind and decided that we should cover up, when it successfully created bears in full nice fur coats!! Isn't that stupid?

    If god wanted women to cover their faces (as Pat Codell once said) why he just did not create them with a flap of thin hanging from their foreheads.


    ...
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #24 - September 11, 2009, 02:37 PM

    Baal: I am so eager to take it off but my major concern is my mother.  I know that she will try to convince me not to.  Honestly I am scared to bring it up to her because I know how she will react.  I don't know what to tell her and how to at that.  I don't want to tell her that I don't believe in Islam anymore because I don't know what she will do.  Probably pray for me day and night for Allah yihdeenee, and she will be worried for the rest of her life that her daughter is a kafra and that I will burn in eternal hell, so I don't really want to worry her.  Even though she still will be worried about me because of me taking off the hijab, but its not as bad as kufir.  I think I'm also worried about what people are going to say, I've been wearing it for 8 years now so it will be quite the transition.  I am looking forward to fixing my hair though!!!  Have any advice?Huh?

    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.

    Atheism: A non-prophet organization.

    Which is it, is man one of God?s blunders or is God one of man?s?
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #25 - September 11, 2009, 02:44 PM

    " I am looking forward to fixing my hair though!!!  Have any advice?"


    Yeah, try something called 'hairspray', or maybe even gel, bit I think that's more for the boys. I hope this helps :0

    I can understand why you don't want to upset your mother, and I've heard the same from so many. Because of your love for her you don't want her to worry about you going to Hell, but serioulsy, if my own mother thought I would go to hell if I didn't follow the family religion, I would consider it her problem, not mine, however much I loved her. It can be compared to, for example, allowing her to go on drinking herself to death, because she tells me it's the only thing that makes her happy.

    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #26 - September 11, 2009, 02:57 PM

    Marhaba Reemz, 20yrs ago you would walk in muslim countries and not see women in veils. Now it is the fashion. I would not wait till the end of ramadan to remove the hijab, remove it now and tell people you had a spiritual revelation.



    i wanted to take my hijab off dye my hair red, cut it real short! and tell ppl that i have lost a bet ! lol

    أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وأن محمدآ عبده ورسوله
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #27 - September 11, 2009, 02:58 PM

    Baal: I am so eager to take it off but my major concern is my mother.  I know that she will try to convince me not to.  Honestly I am scared to bring it up to her because I know how she will react.  I don't know what to tell her and how to at that.  I don't want to tell her that I don't believe in Islam anymore because I don't know what she will do.  Probably pray for me day and night for Allah yihdeenee, and she will be worried for the rest of her life that her daughter is a kafra and that I will burn in eternal hell, so I don't really want to worry her.  Even though she still will be worried about me because of me taking off the hijab, but its not as bad as kufir.  I think I'm also worried about what people are going to say, I've been wearing it for 8 years now so it will be quite the transition.  I am looking forward to fixing my hair though!!!  Have any advice?Huh?


    hi reemz,

    first of all get a stylish hair cut...maybe layers. how long is ur hair anyway? and depending on the shape of ur face...u may want a fringe? it looks good.
    u dont have to put any products to make ur hair look nice.
    just maintain, brush it, stylish cut etc. u can still add hair spray no prob!   far away hug
  • Re: Ex-Muslim
     Reply #28 - September 11, 2009, 03:30 PM

    I wanna dye mine blue and cut it short. Parents will murder me though, guess I'll wait till I'm free.
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