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The Enemy Within - ITV4
OP - October 13, 2009, 11:32 AM

Did anybody watch The Enemy Within on ITV4 at 8pm yesterday? The documentary didn?t offer a new insight as far as I am concerned, but it did catch my eye for one reason.
While watching it I realized that I actually know one of the "actors". I am talking about the guy that appears at 10:06, 11:05 and then again at length at 23:27. Let me just say
that I have never in my life met a more deluded, self-victimized individual, a true psychotic that belongs to a mental institution. He is one of those gangsta wannabe losers who
hate everybody, especially themselves and think the world owes them something. And he knows fuck all about Islam.

Oh yeah, the link to the documentary: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-enemy-within/4od#2973023
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Re: The Enemy Within - ITV4
Reply #1 - October 13, 2009, 11:40 AM

Quote from: Kenan on October 13, 2009, 11:32 AM
I am talking about the guy that appears at 10:06, 11:05 and then again at length at 23:27. Let me just say
that I have never in my life met a more deluded, self-victimized individual, a true psychotic that belongs to a mental institution. He is one of those gangsta wannabe losers who
hate everybody, especially themselves and think the world owes them something. And he knows fuck all about Islam.

Is he a friend of yours then

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Re: The Enemy Within - ITV4
Reply #2 - October 13, 2009, 11:59 AM

Quote from: Kenan on October 13, 2009, 11:32 AM
Did anybody watch The Enemy Within on ITV4 at 8pm yesterday? The documentary didn?t offer a new insight as far as I am concerned, but it did catch my eye for one reason.
While watching it I realized that I actually know one of the "actors". I am talking about the guy that appears at 10:06, 11:05 and then again at length at 23:27. Let me just say
that I have never in my life met a more deluded, self-victimized individual, a true psychotic that belongs to a mental institution. He is one of those gangsta wannabe losers who
hate everybody, especially themselves and think the world owes them something. And he knows fuck all about Islam.

Oh yeah, the link to the documentary: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-enemy-within/4od#2973023

Saw the program and didn't think much of it, though there are some similarities between the Anarchist radicals at the end of the 19th Century and todays Islamic radicals.

I think I know the guy you mean (I mean I saw him - I don't know him) and yes, he looks a bit unhinged - typical angry young british Muslim (btw many of this type are not really "religious" in any traditional sense - yet they are the ones who form the main supporters of the extremists such as Anjem Chaudhury etc...)
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Re: The Enemy Within - ITV4
Reply #3 - October 13, 2009, 12:19 PM

Quote from: IsLame on October 13, 2009, 11:40 AM
Is he a friend of yours then

Oh yeah, just like Botulism is.

Quote from: Hassan on October 13, 2009, 11:59 AM
...and yes, he looks a bit unhinged..

He is a drug addict.

Quote from: Hassan on October 13, 2009, 11:59 AM
btw many of this type are not really "religious" in any traditional sense - yet they are the ones who form the main supporters of the extremists such as Anjem Chaudhury etc...

Exactly. Religion is just a pretence, an in-group marker. The worldview of these whackos is impregnated with "us" vs. "them" mentality and with plain old racism.
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Re: The Enemy Within - ITV4
Reply #4 - October 13, 2009, 03:57 PM

There a way for Yanks to watch this?

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Reply #5 - October 13, 2009, 03:58 PM

Angry Muslim Boy / Man is something of a comedy stereotype now, right?

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Reply #6 - October 13, 2009, 04:03 PM

Quote from: Q-Man on October 13, 2009, 03:57 PM
There a way for Yanks to watch this?

use a UK proxy server?

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Reply #7 - October 21, 2009, 12:38 AM

or google for J@cktv , great little programm that lets you see about 50 channels from outside the uk , if you dont find it Pm me an email and I can send you it , its a very small programme

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Re: The Enemy Within - ITV4
Reply #8 - October 21, 2009, 04:21 AM

Quote from: Hassan on October 13, 2009, 11:59 AM
Saw the program and didn't think much of it, though there are some similarities between the Anarchist radicals at the end of the 19th Century and todays Islamic radicals.

I think I know the guy you mean (I mean I saw him - I don't know him) and yes, he looks a bit unhinged - typical angry young british Muslim (btw many of this type are not really "religious" in any traditional sense - yet they are the ones who form the main supporters of the extremists such as Anjem Chaudhury etc...)

Reminds me of what what a university scholar said about the terrorists; they'll open up and close what they say with a Islamic salutation but the content in between involves nothing Islamic at all - with the occasional distortion of an ayah or two to give the impression of genuineness.

The problem is that the issue is made worse with each click in the Muslim community claiming that they have the more 'real' and 'genuine' interpretation of Islam. It wouldn't be so bad if they were just run of the mill conservative and kept to themselves but the problem is that they export it outside their click believing the rest of the world should be 'blessed' with their 'authentic interpretation'.

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