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Re: Iran to enrich uranium to 20% as nuclear fears grow
Reply #90 - February 13, 2010, 07:52 AM

Quote from: panoptic on February 13, 2010, 07:18 AM
Go back to your cave.

I can't... you're occupying it and using up all the space with all the poop you produce.

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Reply #91 - February 13, 2010, 07:59 AM

Quote from: ras111 on February 13, 2010, 07:52 AM
I can't... you're occupying it and using up all the space with all the poop you produce.

I don't live in a cave; fuck off back to yours.

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Reply #92 - February 13, 2010, 08:02 AM

Quote from: ras111 on February 13, 2010, 07:51 AM
Ahh what a classic.. Have you ever thought of becoming a salafist and pressing for the establishment of an Islamic state as well? That also has never been tried according to many.

A 'salafist' state hasn't been implemented, actually, so they are right.

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Reply #93 - February 13, 2010, 08:05 AM

Quote from: panoptic on February 13, 2010, 07:59 AM
I don't live in a cave; fuck off back to yours.

Well if not a cave, then you must live in a giant capsule or bubble like the rest of your kind, comfortably shielded from reality and life.

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Reply #94 - February 13, 2010, 08:07 AM

Quote from: panoptic on February 13, 2010, 08:02 AM
A 'salafist' state hasn't been implemented, actually, so they are right.

Well then join them and perhaps after the death of many millions of the people it was supposed to protect, the world will hopefully realise that such a system does not work just like Communism. But I bet that there will be people who still wouldn't get the message and believe the lie anyways.

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Reply #95 - February 13, 2010, 08:09 AM

Quote from: ras111 on February 13, 2010, 08:05 AM
Well if not a cave, then you must live in a giant capsule or bubble like the rest of your kind.

the real world.

it doesn't spin on its head.

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Reply #96 - February 13, 2010, 08:12 AM

Quote from: ras111 on February 13, 2010, 08:07 AM
Well then join them

Why would I?

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Reply #97 - February 13, 2010, 08:14 AM

Quote from: panoptic on February 13, 2010, 08:09 AM
the real world.

it doesn't spin on its head.

Yours seems to. Anyways I am finding the experience of talking to an emotional cretin such as yourself, who has to resort to false accusations of so called prejudice and smear tactics, quite degrading and embarrassing. Labels do not work with me cupcake.

So cheerio and fuck off.

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Reply #98 - February 13, 2010, 08:15 AM

Quote from: panoptic on February 13, 2010, 08:12 AM
Why would I?

Because you are like them. You only have a different religion.

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Reply #99 - February 13, 2010, 08:15 AM

Quote from: ras111 on February 13, 2010, 08:14 AM
Yours seems to. Anyways I am finding the experience of talking to an emotional cretin such as yourself, who has to resort to false accusations of so called prejudice and smear tactics, quite degrading and embarrassing. Labels do not work with me cupcake.

So cheerio and fuck off.

That's what you do all the time you hypocrite, so don't be surprised if you get it back.

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Reply #100 - February 13, 2010, 08:16 AM

Quote from: ras111 on February 13, 2010, 08:15 AM
Because you are like them. You only have a different religion.

I have no religion.

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Reply #101 - February 13, 2010, 08:24 AM

One doesn't resort to calling out apologists for racism; you leave that until they're refuted/exhausted of anything approaching an argument (which never takes long).

I have been acting consistently with this principle.

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Reply #102 - February 13, 2010, 08:26 AM

Quote from: ras111 on February 13, 2010, 08:14 AM
Yours seems to.

Why when I don't believe it is ruled by such notions as race, but by existing things?

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Reply #103 - February 13, 2010, 08:45 AM

Quote from: panoptic on February 13, 2010, 08:15 AM
That's what you do all the time you hypocrite, so don't be surprised if you get it back.

I only labeled you what you label yourself. You shouldn't have any issues.

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Reply #104 - February 13, 2010, 08:47 AM

Quote from: panoptic on February 13, 2010, 08:24 AM
One doesn't resort to calling out apologists for racism; you leave that until they're refuted/exhausted of anything approaching an argument (which never takes long).

I have been acting consistently with this principle.

In so far you have not produced anything approaching an argument either, so that should put you on their level. And you should both be treated with the same contempt.

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Reply #105 - February 13, 2010, 08:50 AM

Quote from: panoptic on February 13, 2010, 08:26 AM
Why when I don't believe it is ruled by such notions as race, but by existing things?

There are people who believe that the world lies on the back of a giant sea turtle but that is not real either. Yet for them giant sea turtles with planets on their back are also existing things. The are those who think that jinns are existing things as well.

No one was arguing that the world was ruled by 'race' either. My argument for one was that genetic differences are present and that they do play a part in things. Do you have trouble understanding English or are you naturally hysterical and dull?

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Reply #106 - February 13, 2010, 11:58 AM

Quote from: ras111 on February 13, 2010, 08:50 AM
My argument for one was that genetic differences are present and that they do play a part in things.

Extremely vague.

It is also false insofar as it is to be related to your original post.

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Reply #107 - February 13, 2010, 12:39 PM

Quote from: panoptic on February 13, 2010, 11:58 AM
Extremely vague.

It is also false insofar as it is to be related to your original post.

If you are referring to the 'xenophobia' post, I was talking from a purely neutral, scientific perspective by saying that having it was advantageous for certain objectives in certain situations. I was not referring to it in a current social context and I was definitely not justifying it either, especially in our societies.

My fault for assuming that all here were open minded, rational people who were not going to interpret what I said as a justification for hate crime. Clearly that is not the case with you. I should have followed my intuition and ignored you when I read your drivel about how racism is the product of slavery and economics.

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Reply #108 - February 20, 2010, 09:53 PM

Quote from: Kenan on February 09, 2010, 08:41 PM
I don't think I quite understand this. Could you please explain?
Would that be hydro, gas, nuclear, geo-thermal, solar, coal, wind, biomass, tidal, cold fusion or gerbil in a wheel + fresh cheese?

well obviously non renewable energy
"According to Oil and Gas Journal, as of January 2010, Iran has an estimated 137.6 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, or roughly 10 percent of the world's total reserves."

"Iran has 27,000 billion cubic meters of gas reserves and approximately 18 percent the total of proven gas reserves in the world."

and about the main point

You guys are not seeing the bigger picture here! The root of all evil here is the United States. The mullahocracy in Iran is all because of the Americans. We IRanians might love American culture and hate this Islamic plague that is in our country but we are all well aware of the American problem.
With America meddling in our affairs we can never have what we want.
Also the Russians have taken away half of our land in the past 2-3 hundred years and a nuclear weapon will hold them back as well (in the long run).

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and plz don't use Turkey as a counter argument! Turkey doesn't have an underground pool of oil and gas. If the Americans wanted they could start fueling Islamic extremism RIGHT THIS SECOND in Turkey and have an Islamic republic in a couple of decades in this VERY nationalistic country.
A nuclear Iran can threaten Saudi Arabia and all other powers in the region which are mere puppets of the Americans and this can force the yanks to bow down to Iran's demands, i.e. the removal of sanctions (in the long term).
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Reply #109 - February 20, 2010, 09:58 PM

Quote from: panoptic on February 13, 2010, 07:21 AM
No, I am not joking. Read Theodore Allen. I posted that link. What have you provided? Nothing. Just inanity like the above.

Racism is a modern ideological phenomenon.

There is no such thing as race.

I did read the link. So what? It's just another guy with an opinion. There is racism in the Islamic texts. Arabian Islam has been prejudiced against black people for over a thousand years. To say that racism is a modern construct is just ludicrous.

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Reply #110 - February 20, 2010, 10:06 PM

@Nima: Thanks for a reply.

Well you know what they say in Fallout: Don't drink it if it glows in the dark.
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Reply #111 - February 20, 2010, 10:09 PM

Quote from: Nima on February 20, 2010, 09:53 PM
well obviously non renewable energy
"According to Oil and Gas Journal, as of January 2010, Iran has an estimated 137.6 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, or roughly 10 percent of the world's total reserves."

"Iran has 27,000 billion cubic meters of gas reserves and approximately 18 percent the total of proven gas reserves in the world."

and about the main point

You guys are not seeing the bigger picture here! The root of all evil here is the United States. The mullahocracy in Iran is all because of the Americans. We IRanians might love American culture and hate this Islamic plague that is in our country but we are all well aware of the American problem.
With America meddling in our affairs we can never have what we want.
Also the Russians have taken away half of our land in the past 2-3 hundred years and a nuclear weapon will hold them back as well (in the long run).

Edit:
and plz don't use Turkey as a counter argument! Turkey doesn't have an underground pool of oil and gas under it. If the Americans wanted they could start fueling Islamic extremism RIGHT THIS SECOND in Turkey and have an Islamic republic in a couple of decades in this VERY nationalistic country.
A nuclear Iran can threaten Saudi Arabia and all other powers in the region which are mere puppets of the Americans and this can force the yanks to bow down to Iran's demands, i.e. the removal of sanctions (in the long term).

Sorry Nima, but that post sounds very naive at best.

1/ The US may do some very stupid and nasty things at times but is not the root of all evil. That's just the "Great Satan" propaganda that Khomeini and Co used to spout.

2/ The mullahocracy is not all because of the Americans. The mullahs are Iranian. Their supporters are Iranian. Deal with it.

3/ Russia has far more nukes and a far bigger military than Iran is likely to have in the foreseeable future. Threatening the Russians with a few nukes may not hold them back. In fact if they seriously thought Iran was going to use nukes against them they would probably strike first.

4/ Your other reasons for wanting Iran to have nukes sound exactly like the reasons every other country does not want it to happen.

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Reply #112 - February 21, 2010, 03:49 AM

1) The United States of America and the British ARE THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL IN IRAN

-For two centuries GB has been attacking Iran
"In fact, Iran's current southern and eastern boundaries were determined by none other than the British during the Anglo-Persian War (1856 to 1857). After defeating Nasereddin Shah in Herat in 1857, the British government assigned Frederic John Goldsmid of the Indo-European Telegraph Department to determine the borders between Persia and India during the 1860s.[3]

In 1872, the Shah signed an agreement with Baron Julius de Reuter, which George Nathaniel Curzon (who was one of the greatest statesmen of his day) called:

The most complete and extraordinary surrender of the entire industrial resources of a kingdom into foreign hands that have ever been dreamed of...[4]"

-During WWII the British were military blockading Iran b/c they were scared that Iran might become a transport route for the Germans. Countless Iranian ships were sunk by the British.

-lets fast forward to the Anglo-Iranian oil company
They stole TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS (adjusted to inflation) from Iran in 3 decades until Mosadegh decided to nationalize the oil industry. This got him killed and the MI5+the CIA destroyed Iran's democracy and brought back the monarchy. Until 1979 the US of A received oil grantees where they would receive oil for the same price no matter how much the price went up and it would only be adjusted every few years. With the profits Iran was also encouraged to purchase BILLIONS OF DOLLARS wotrth of American weaponary. The situation was so bad that in 1979 Iran was only making RPG and AK 47 rounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2) Communism in Korea was all b/c of Russia but today the supporters of kim sung and his gang are korean. What you said doesn't make sense.
Anybody with a reasonable understanding of Iranian politics will tell you that the rise of the mullahs was PURELY b/c of the Americans.

3)One sentence for you, "mutually assured destruction."
Russia can have a billion nukes, it makes no difference. 5 nukes are enough to erase Russia.
The nuke that was dropped on Hiroshima was anywhere from 13 to 18 kilotons!
Average modern nukes are between 1 to 20 MEGATONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If a modern nuke was dropped on Hiroshima then the entire city would have been simply erased.

4) LMAO well of course no other country wants Iran to have nukes! No country wants to see another country go nuclear.
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