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 Topic: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.

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  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #30 - May 06, 2010, 10:57 PM
    Lol I'm kidding.  far away hug
    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #31 - May 06, 2010, 11:07 PM
    Hmm, the internet isn't too good at conveying subtleties in intention, but no matter.

     far away hug

    So I read you're Pashtun? Snap!
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #32 - May 06, 2010, 11:13 PM
    ^_^

    and why yes, I am. Snap? Huh?
    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #33 - May 06, 2010, 11:17 PM
    Snap -  you never played it when you were younger? That card game where you say 'SNAP!' if you place a card down which is identical to the one already there. No? Hmm, maybe it's a European thing.
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #34 - May 06, 2010, 11:20 PM
    Nope. I'm Canadian.

    Your point was? Lol... (Have I trolled on my own thread?)
    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #35 - May 06, 2010, 11:25 PM
    Well, like I said, the point of the game is to shout snap when you see an identical pair of cards. So when I read you were Pashtun, 'snap!' is me indicating that I am likewise. Never mind, it was a pretty rubbish way of putting it.  Tongue Wink
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #36 - May 06, 2010, 11:25 PM
    If I was a Muslim parent I wouldn't send my kids to Canada.  Everyone apostates there.  It must be the snow
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #37 - May 06, 2010, 11:34 PM
    Quote
    Well, like I said, the point of the game is to shout snap when you see an identical pair of cards. So when I read you were Pashtun, 'snap!' is me indicating that I am likewise. Never mind, it was a pretty rubbish way of putting it.  Tongue Wink


    Ohhhh, I suspected as much after the last response but didn't want to risk sounding stupid in case I misinterpreted.  It's just that "snap" In North America has a different meaning. It means like "Ha. You got Pwned."

    In that case, I must greet you from one pashtun to another, although my vocabulary is sadly limited and I'm told I have a "Funny" accent. "Senga ye?" Cheesy

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    If I was a Muslim parent I wouldn't send my kids to Canada.  Everyone apostates there.  It must be the snow


    Do they? This is news to me. Do you think the fact that we all as kids ate some makes a difference? It tasted good, as long as you avoid muddy brown looking patches Wink

    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #38 - May 06, 2010, 11:40 PM
    Quote from: Ephemeral on May 06, 2010, 11:34 PM
    Ohhhh, I suspected as much after the last response but didn't want to risk sounding stupid in case I misinterpreted.  It's just that "snap" In North America has a different meaning. It means like "Ha. You got Pwned."


    North America sounds fun.

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    In that case, I must greet you from one pashtun to another, although my vocabulary is sadly limited and I'm told I have a "Funny" accent. "Senga ye?" Cheesy



    Very good. Smiley

    My vocabulary is not so much limited, as non-existing. And I'm certain you'd find my accent a whole lot funnier, but I'm Afghan rather than Pakistani.
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #39 - May 06, 2010, 11:47 PM
    ): You didn't respond in kind.

    Nice, I know many afghans, though mainly Farsi speaking ones rather than pashto speaking ones...even the pashtuns. Do you speak Farsi instead?
    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #40 - May 07, 2010, 05:27 AM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza
    North America sounds fun.

    Psshht, weird Brits with their weird slang.
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #41 - May 07, 2010, 03:06 PM
    Quote from: Ephemeral on May 06, 2010, 11:47 PM
    ): You didn't respond in kind.


    I didn't want you to laugh at my accent.  Embarrassed

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    Nice, I know many afghans, though mainly Farsi speaking ones rather than pashto speaking ones...even the pashtuns. Do you speak Farsi instead?



    Nah, a lot of Afghans can, including my parents, but I can barely speak a few words.

    Pashto is my mother tongue, but having lived in Europe my whole life, I'm not very adept at speaking it. I know enough to communicate (badly) with my parents and relatives, but not more than that.
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #42 - May 07, 2010, 03:07 PM
    Quote from: Abood on May 07, 2010, 05:27 AM
    Psshht, weird Brits with their weird slang.


    Yo, it's our language. If you don't like it, GTFO.  Wink
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #43 - May 07, 2010, 04:03 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on May 06, 2010, 04:34 PM
    On my very first day as a non-believer, I told a group of close friends. When I explained why, most of them agreed with what I was saying, there and then. I was like, wow, that was easy! And all the arguments I've made since then, they've agreed with pretty much all of them. But still, they say they believe. They eat haraam food now, they don't pray, or read the qur'an, or go to the mosque.... but still they say that Allah exists. And it frustrated me for a while, because when I ask them why, they said just in case. But now it doesn't bother me, as long as they are not practising Islam, I don't care what they believe, let them have their comfort.

    It's different with parents though, especially practising parents like mine, who could probably not even conceive Islam being false. The idea that your child is going to burn in hell for eternity is not a nice one for any parent, no matter how stupid it may appear to you.  For that reason, I don't intend to tell my parents. Right now, they know I don't practise, and they leave me be, probably thinking that I will become 'straight' on my own. So I see no reason to tell them I'm not a Muslim any more. But if push comes to shove and they try to force Islam on me, as much as I care for them, I'm going to have to tell them. I'm not going to give up my freedom. Hopefully it won't have to come to that.


    Prince Spinoza,
    You sound like an interesting guy and I'm gradually picking up scraps of info about you from various threads.  Wink

    So you live in Bradford? I'm assuming that's Bradistan means.  And you have religious parents?
    I live in Leicester and have very religious parents.  As you will read in my intro thread, I have already come out to them about my apostasy and it went horribly.  I agree with you that it is best not to tell them, if you can avoid it.  If your parents know that you are not practising, and they are OK with it, you are lucky.  If your parents are very controlling like mine were, I recommend you gradually try to get them to relinquish that control.  When they realise that the control is slipping away, they will let go anyway.  And you will never need to tell them.  I started trying to get them to relinquish the control but it was far too late for them.

    That is my honest advice, for what it's worth. Wink

    Sorry if this sounds patronising.   lipsrsealed
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #44 - May 07, 2010, 04:05 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on May 07, 2010, 03:06 PM
    Pashto is my mother tongue, but having lived in Europe my whole life, I'm not very adept at speaking it. I know enough to communicate (badly) with my parents and relatives, but not more than that.


    Same here ;P. Although when I am around very small babies, I find my limited speaking abilities aroused Grin and I switch naturally to pashto.

    On another note, are you attending any Afghan weddings in the upcoming month or so?

    oh and thanks Ateapotist, for bringing the thread back to the original point...kind of Smiley
    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #45 - May 07, 2010, 04:12 PM
    At your service Ephemeral.  great

    By the way, I think we have a perfect match here. 001_wub  Kiss 001_wub 001_wub

    Good luck to you two!
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #46 - May 07, 2010, 04:23 PM
    I'm so proud of you Ephemeral! *sniff*

    Never thought you'd find your match here...

     grin12
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #47 - May 07, 2010, 04:37 PM
     dance

    There will be an open bar at the wedding right?
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #48 - May 07, 2010, 04:39 PM
    Quote from: ateapotist on May 07, 2010, 04:03 PM
    Prince Spinoza,
    You sound like an interesting guy and I'm gradually picking up scraps of info about you from various threads.  Wink

    So you live in Bradford? I'm assuming that's Bradistan means.  


    Yeh,  Tongue

    Quote
    I live in Leicester and have very religious parents.  As you will read in my intro thread, I have already come out to them about my apostasy and it went horribly.  I agree with you that it is best not to tell them, if you can avoid it.  If your parents know that you are not practising, and they are OK with it, you are lucky.  If your parents are very controlling like mine were, I recommend you gradually try to get them to relinquish that control.  When they realise that the control is slipping away, they will let go anyway.  And you will never need to tell them.  I started trying to get them to relinquish the control but it was far too late for them.

    That is my honest advice, for what it's worth. Wink

    Sorry if this sounds patronising.   lipsrsealed


    To be honest, I'm not sure how things are going to unfold. It's only been a couple of months. I think I can get by without telling them, for the moment at least, but maybe I'm being a little naive. Hmm, we'll just have to wait and see I guess. I sort of told my brother, and his reaction was.... predictable. But I can trust him to not tell my parents.
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #49 - May 07, 2010, 04:45 PM
    Quote from: Ephemeral on May 07, 2010, 04:05 PM
    Same here ;P. Although when I am around very small babies, I find my limited speaking abilities aroused Grin and I switch naturally to pashto.


    Same here. I always said Pashto was just a load of babbling anyway. Tongue

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    On another note, are you attending any Afghan weddings in the upcoming month or so?


    I hope not! I always find a way to excuse myself from weddings, but a couple of summers ago I had to go back to Germany specifically for a wedding. Couldn't get out of that one! Though I'm not complaining, some of the girls..... Wink I never realised I had such hot relatives....
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #50 - May 07, 2010, 05:22 PM
    Prince Spinoza and Ephemeral, get a room!
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #51 - May 07, 2010, 05:32 PM
    They're so cute  001_wub 001_wub 001_wub
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #52 - May 07, 2010, 05:32 PM
    Quote from: Naerys on May 07, 2010, 05:22 PM
    Prince Spinoza and Ephemeral, get a room!


    Get a new joke! That's so cheesy!
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #53 - May 07, 2010, 05:33 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on May 07, 2010, 05:32 PM
    They're so cute  001_wub 001_wub 001_wub

     Angry
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #54 - May 07, 2010, 06:58 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on May 07, 2010, 04:45 PM
    Same here. I always said Pashto was just a load of babbling anyway. Tongue

    I hope not! I always find a way to excuse myself from weddings, but a couple of summers ago I had to go back to Germany specifically for a wedding. Couldn't get out of that one! Though I'm not complaining, some of the girls..... Wink I never realised I had such hot relatives....


    Lol just to clarify, I asked about weddings NOT  because I want to get it on with Prince spinoza or even marry him, but because there is ALWAYS an afghan wedding going on and I proved my point. Also, 2 of my afghan relatives just went to England to attend a wedding in the near future.

    There is a saying that all pashtuns know eachother somehow through certain relations and I was testing that theory ;P.

    And dude, do not fall for people at a wedding filled with relatives. All the aunties will try to set you up and they might even be your cousins (in which case your mother will be all for it.)
    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #55 - May 07, 2010, 07:03 PM
    Quote from: Naerys on May 07, 2010, 05:22 PM
    Prince Spinoza and Ephemeral, get a room!


    I resent this. What would we do in a room? I mean we could play that card-game...what was it? Snap!

    you're all invited. Cheesy
    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #56 - May 07, 2010, 07:44 PM
    Quote from: Ephemeral on May 07, 2010, 06:58 PM
    Lol just to clarify, I asked about weddings NOT  because I want to get it on with Prince spinoza or even marry him,


    Lies.

    Quote
    but because there is ALWAYS an afghan wedding going on and I proved my point. Also, 2 of my afghan relatives just went to England to attend a wedding in the near future.

    There is a saying that all pashtuns know eachother somehow through certain relations and I was testing that theory ;P.

    And dude, do not fall for people at a wedding filled with relatives. All the aunties will try to set you up and they might even be your cousins (in which case your mother will be all for it.)


    Ah, that's not a problem any more. All my aunties used to say "it will be your turn soon!" at weddings, but they stopped doing that when I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.  cool2
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #57 - May 07, 2010, 07:53 PM
    Prince Spinoza wrote:
    > Ah, that's not a problem any more.
    > All my aunties used to say "it will be your turn soon!" at weddings,
    > but they stopped doing that when I started doing the same thing to them at funerals. 

    You're evil!  Cheesy
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #58 - May 07, 2010, 07:57 PM
    Wowwww
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on May 07, 2010, 07:44 PM
    Lies.


    You're right. Why wouldn't I want to? Mister Narcissus.

    Quote
    Ah, that's not a problem any more. All my aunties used to say "it will be your turn soon!" at weddings, but they stopped doing that when I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.  cool2


    Wow that's horribly mean but I LOLLEd so hard. I'm not very nice Grin
    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: A story touching on liberty, joy and maybe even a little hope.
     Reply #59 - May 07, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on May 07, 2010, 07:44 PM
    All my aunties used to say "it will be your turn soon!" at weddings, but they stopped doing that when I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.  cool2


     Cheesy
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
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