May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day

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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #330 - May 23, 2010, 01:48 PM

Because the Muslim councillor who said it was offensive to Muslims, was not fake...

But the councillor's claim that he was speaking on behalf of the community was fake.

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Reply #331 - May 23, 2010, 02:01 PM

Quote from: ExHindu on May 23, 2010, 01:45 PM
It was also reported by the T+A as well though, and lots of other newspapers. Why would a fake story get so much coverage by different newspapers?

Because it sells

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Reply #332 - May 24, 2010, 02:47 AM

Quote from: J4m3z on May 23, 2010, 01:48 PM
Because the Muslim councillor who said it was offensive to Muslims, was not fake...

But the councillor's claim that he was speaking on behalf of the community was fake.

Yea, technically speaking for the article to be true, just 2 muslims would have had to complained about the puppy ad, and they can write sn article saying 'Muslims complained about this puppy ad' and it is completely true, just horribly misrepresenting that whole community and they leave out the actual numbers of complaints that they recieved because it was likely only a tiny number.

We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #333 - May 24, 2010, 11:20 AM

I don't trust tabloids.
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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #334 - May 24, 2010, 11:38 AM

Well, according to wikipedia:

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The majority of both Sunni and Shi'a Muslim jurists consider dogs to be ritually unclean, though jurists from the Sunni Maliki school disagree.

According to a generally unaccepted Sunni tradition attributed to Muhammad, black dogs are evil, or even devils, in animal form.

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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=19007&op=2&o=global&view=global&subj=121369914543425&id=100001151263812&fbid=102185836496458

And another picture that made me laugh:

Wow .....

We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

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Reply #335 - May 24, 2010, 11:42 AM

I didn't say dogs are not considered unclean in Islam. I said I don't trust tabloids.
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Reply #336 - May 24, 2010, 04:17 PM

http://i50.tinypic.com/2nvrzmv.jpg

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Reply #337 - May 24, 2010, 05:13 PM

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Reply #338 - May 24, 2010, 05:16 PM

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=10314.0;topicseen

someone merge the threads thanks.

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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #339 - May 24, 2010, 05:22 PM

this image belongs to zergling103
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Reply #340 - May 24, 2010, 05:27 PM

Thank you!
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Reply #341 - May 24, 2010, 05:32 PM

Have to say this again, awesome work Zergling!
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Reply #342 - May 24, 2010, 06:18 PM

Quote from: Zergling103 on May 24, 2010, 05:27 PM
Thank you!

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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #343 - May 24, 2010, 06:32 PM

Why were eople in Pakistan forcibly prevented from accessing the "Draw a Mohammed" page on Facebook.

Had they been so offended by the page, they would not have accessed it themselves, without the need for the government to intervene and ban the entire website...

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Reply #344 - May 24, 2010, 07:23 PM

Show of (illusionary) strength? Have you seen the Log Out! Forever pic?
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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #345 - May 24, 2010, 07:58 PM

Not yet..

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Reply #346 - May 24, 2010, 09:00 PM

Basically the protesters (and the government of Pakistan) are showing to (primarily) themselves just how tough they are and are "punishing" facebook by boycotting/banning it.

Problem is that:
1.Nobody gives a fuck.
2.Facebook and other social networking sites are becoming increasingly important in business networking as well. Those idiots demanding a ban on Facebook (or why not - internet) are effectively shooting themselves in the foot. Unfortunately they are too stupid (or rather too emotionally involved) to notice that.

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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #347 - May 24, 2010, 09:15 PM

To be fair, I am actually surprised at the what I see as a mild reaction from the muslim countries.

Remember how many people were murdered over the Salman Rushdie episode. Remember Theo Van Gogh. Remember the Danish cartoon which just depicted a sword wielding prophet.

Here we have the most popular social networking site in the world housing pics of Muhammed gangraping pigs & getting sucked off by Jesus Christ, and all we see is one country raising a few banners and blocking its access

Has it worked. Are we in the midst of a huge social & behavioural change in the Islamic World?

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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #348 - May 24, 2010, 09:37 PM

Hopefully. In the past Islamic taboos were mostly left unchallenged, maybe more and more people will become less and less sensitive to such (non)issues as a result.

Quote from: IsLame on May 24, 2010, 09:15 PM
Here we have the most popular social networking site in the world housing pics of Muhammed gangraping pigs & getting sucked off by Jesus Christ, and all we see is one country raising a few banners and blocking its access

Encyclopedia Dramatica has a collection of pretty much all drawings posted on facebook in case anyone is interested: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Muhammad
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Reply #349 - May 24, 2010, 11:16 PM

The Pakistani ban does not just cover facebook, it is also extended unilaterally to YouTube, to around 400 websites, approximately 850 specific links, and at last count, an additional around 1100 links.

The photo-sharing website Flickr came under the axe as well, as did Wikipedia, Twitter, google.com.pk, Huffington Post, and some CNN and Washington Post blogs and many others were also blocked. These websites, it should be noted, were not hosting ‘blasphemous’ content, but were merely discussing the news of the ban.

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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #350 - May 25, 2010, 12:44 AM

Muslims are now responding by setting up an 'Everybody draw the holocaust day' group:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Everybody-draw-Holocaust-day-30-June-2010/125126400846347

http://trueslant.com/michaelpeck/2010/05/24/now-its-everybody-deny-the-holocaust-day/

Moar Islamic suicide? Oh, erm, wait, I dont mean suicide bombers, I mean suicide of the religion ... wait, but that kind of implies suicide bombing, but, erm, I meant something else ....

Dammit, never use suicide in the same sentence as Islam unless refering to bombs.

We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

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Reply #351 - May 25, 2010, 05:44 PM

The true slant guy hit the nail on the head

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #352 - May 25, 2010, 06:17 PM

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Reply #353 - May 25, 2010, 09:41 PM

The vast majority of Pakistanis have never been on the internet anyway. It's only the middle and upper classes that get access to facebook. You know, the ones who spend their days preaching Islam and downloading porn. What they didn't realize was that their half-brained support for Islam led them to lose their best social network. No youtube would suck bigtime too. They must be worried about losing the internet altogether.

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Reply #354 - May 25, 2010, 10:05 PM

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Reply #355 - May 25, 2010, 10:47 PM

I must say, I'm loving Draw Muhammad Day. I really am. Muslims are slowly slowly becoming immune to criticism. The taboos are being broken. They are realising that Muhammad or Islam are NOT above criticism.

A lot of the cartoons are very funny (and factual!).

This should be an annual event!

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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #356 - May 25, 2010, 10:52 PM

Quote from: Shahid Raza on May 25, 2010, 10:47 PM
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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #357 - May 26, 2010, 04:08 AM

All is fair under Freedom of speech as long as people's lives aren't threatened, but why does the creator of the page consider Holocaust a myth? Sure, argue with the facts if you wish, but denying the event ever occured is ridiculous.
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Reply #358 - May 26, 2010, 08:54 AM

Exactly BeyT.
Holocaust denial is completely unsubstantiated and can be defeated easily in a rational debate, but Holocaust deniers don’t like debating with facts.

Nevertheless, as you say, free speech should be allowed (but not freedom to incite violence).
See this article in 2006:
Free speech, even if it hurts
Protecting the rights of a Holocaust denier ultimately protects us all.
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Re: May 20th. 2010. Draw Muhammad Day
Reply #359 - May 26, 2010, 09:47 AM

The Holocaust thing is very disturbing. Not because of what it allegedly says about the 'hypocrisy' of 'The West' - but because of what it says about the mentality of some Muslims.

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