Re: My Ordeal With The Quran - Actual Translation
Reply #54 - August 24, 2011, 07:59 PM
4.10 The Qurʾān and Science
It is impossible to talk about the negative aspects of the Koran without talking about its blatant scientific errors that make one's eyes pop out.
1- The image of the universe in the Koran is that of the old mythological astronomy which was popular during the rapid decline of Greek sciences and philosophies and which was suffused with eastern hues and luminous concoction of pure imagination.
Thus the earth is the centre of the universe and its stable base whose atop is seven heavens; each level is atop of the other and held by invisible beams. And it is, apparently, the case that the Koran has no idea about endless universes, nebulae, black holes and stardust. This is because the universe painted by the Koran is locked one and of loneliness and limitation: it is shined by the sun during the day, by the moon, stars and planets – which are dangling chandeliers – during the night.
These heavens will be torn asunder in the Final Day when the angles will be all around it and the throne of God will be carried by eight of them [69: 17-18]. It appears that the throne is in the seventh heaven but when it gets split, eight of them will carry it. I do not know whether the number eight is correct or it is used here because it rhythms with the rest of the verses, for linguistic form and structure do get priority over meaning and semantics in the Koran, achieving grandiloquence.
2- Fire was one of the four elements known by the Greek and in other old and eastern philosophies. It has its independent property: like water, air and earth/dust. So if Allah created man from dust, he also created the devil/shaytan and jinni from fire and he also created the angles from light. Actually, Allah himself is of light or, say, from light or the light of the lights [Allah is the light of the heaven and earth] chapter 24, verse 35
3- It appears that from time to time, there must be held a divine meeting somewhere contiguous to earth. Maybe it is in the radius of the moon. I n the presence of Jibreel, peace be upon him, and in particular our Lord Azrael, peace be upon him, and some of the angels specialist in the affairs human beings to discuss their lives, livelihoods and their worship and the extent of their commitment to the things of their religion, and whom will be created this year and who will die, and goes to heaven, and rightfully will be tortured in hell.
It appears that the guarding of these meetings were not thorough as to allow devils to breach the security and attend it to find out what is happening and be able to inform the people of the earth of it. It also seems that they were able to steal some news, too, and this is called in the Koran ‘snatches’
[ Lo! We have adorned the lowest heaven) the first heaven (with an ornament, the planets) He says: the first heaven is adorned with planets: (With security) He says: they are made safe (from every froward devil) from every tough, rebellious devil. They cannot listen) so that they do not listen (to the Highest Chiefs) to the speech of the angels, i.e. the guardian angels, regarding that which is communicated amongst them (for they are pelted from every side) they rise up to (Outcast) they are driven away from heaven and from listening to the angels, (and theirs is a perpetual torment) by means of the stars; and it is also said that this means: in the Fire; (Save him who snatcheth a fragment) save him who snatches a little of the words of the angels, (and there pursueth him a piercing flame) and is chased by a bright star which burns him. ] 37: 6-8
The same meaning gets repeated in another verse :
[(And verily in the heaven We have set mansions of the stars) by means of which people are guided in the darkness of the sea or land; it is also said that this means: castles, (and We have beautified it) the sky by means of the stars (for beholders) who look at it. (And We have guarded it from every outcast devil) from every accursed devil who is chased away by the stars to prevent them, i.e. the satans, from listening to the angels, (Save him who stealeth the hearing, and them doth a clear flame pursue) they are pursued by a bright, burning star.] 15: 16-18
So in this a moral for us; because the intelligence services, no matter how through they are, will always be beneath the wanted level, even if they were the intelligence of the heaven!!
There is nothing in these two verses about meteor(s) as it is scientifically known. Meteors, in them, are a piece of fire which serves the purpose of physically casting out devils and not burning them, because they do not get effected by fire and are created from it!
4- The eavesdropping and spying mission of devils seems continuous but when the prophet Mohammed was sent, the devils were surprised that it was [filled with strong warders) angels (and meteors) preventing them from listening. (And we used to sit on places (high) therein) in heaven (to listen) before the advent of Muhammad (pbuh). (But he who listened now) after the advent of Muhammad (pbuh) (findeth a flame) a shining star (in wait for him) from the angels in order to prevent them from listening] 72: 8-9
All of that was brought about after prophethood had been given to Mohammed and there was no spying thenceforth. Because security measures are heightened now after they were relaxed. And whoever listens from now on, meteors will chase him from all sides. It is very difficult, if not impossible, now after it hadn’t and this is what appears from the above verse, at least.
5- [(And Lot!) We sent Lot to his folk ((Remember) when he said unto his folk: Lo! ye commit lewdness) sodomy (such as no creature did before you) He said: no one before has ever committed your abominable act.] 29: 28
Is this true? That homosexuality was the invention of the people of Lot only? In fact, homosexuality is one of the oldest human sexual practices, as old as humanity. It springs from the sexual instinct that is shared by human and animals alike. It exists amongst animals and even insects; how could the Koran absolutely negates this fact before the people of Lot? It is a mistake I did not think that the Koran would make.
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Topic: My Ordeal With The Quran - Actual Translation