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  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #240 - July 14, 2010, 01:21 PM

    I read her comment as sarcasm. Was it not? Oops. Sorry Ephy.

    Perhaps it was. I dunno. Huh?  Perhaps I'm over-sensitive to suicidal feelings expressed by others.  Smiley


    I read somewhere that consistency is important, even if other people think you are wrong, so long as you are consistent, it is better than swaying. It's something I'm trying out in my family: consistently be the nice black sheep (i.e. disagreeing with as much respect as possible), that way, at least unwritten expectations are less likely to hurt them in the future I think. Might not be the best strategy, but well ... there you go.

    Hmmm.  Interesting.  I'll bear that in mind.  Thanks HighOctane.  Afro


    Mate, you're like Bruce Lee, I know you'll get through this. hugs Also, as some entrepreneurs have said in the past: don't ever give up if the ball is still in play ... because you may start succeeding just as you started to give up ... 

    Again.  Thanks for your advice. Afro  hugs


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  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #241 - July 14, 2010, 01:55 PM

    It was sarcasm, daaaahling Tongue

    It just bores me to talk about it and infuriates me when i think about the effect it will always have on my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 I wouldn't commit suicide over Islam and have never pursued/thought about it for those reasons. Islam is lame.

    Though i'm not saying it isn't a serious source of problems for some (hell I get it).

    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #242 - July 14, 2010, 02:01 PM

    Nah I love earth. Just humans... fuck em.


    Exactly! May I add, by their stupid quest for GOD through organized religion,they fuck up everything for themselves and others around them.



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #243 - July 14, 2010, 02:44 PM

    I applaud the likes of Hassan, RIBs, Islame, Maryam, High Octane, and all who passionately pursue
    human rights, defenders and protectors of people who cant defend and protect themselves.

    Iblis.. I know what its like to just want to throw in the towel and forget about it.  The mechanics
    of islam, and politics for that matter, are exhausting physically, emotionally, even spiritually.

    And everyone has their own convictions, or "burdens" if you will, and thank goodness for those who
    can tirelesly persevere in the arenas that I cant!  Regardless whether its due to lack of means,
    knowledge, or my spirit just cant handle it.  

    When i was a christian (hell, a muslim, too, for that matter), i pondered often about "burdens"
    and what callings people had, ordained by god.  And one day i realized, it doesnt matter how big
    or little one's "calling" is.  Random acts of kindness every day are just as important as standing
    on a pulpit, or being the CEO of a non profit organization!  You can touch lives and make a difference
    every single day!  Like encountering a really nasty checkout person. Pause for a minute, genuinely smile
    at them, and ask them if they are having a bad day.  I tested this, and guess what? EVERY single time
    they responded with gratitude.  Their kids were sick, they had to work a double shift and their feet were
    killing them, they had a fight with their spouse, etc etc.  That one small act of genuine kindest CAN make
    a difference in one's life!  Doesnt have to be anything more than an understanding smile.



    That's the essence of being a human being! It must have been your aha moment.Experiencing the genuine kindness and compassion of a total stranger could be one of your most uplifting moments of your life. It's a pure spiritual experience.
    Come to think about it, where the fuck has spontaneity disappeared? We need books teach us how to fuck, how to be good etc. Life has become so pedantic that we are paralyzed without  a stupid holy book telling us what to do. Like the plastic, that man invented, his emotions and feelings have become artificial. You need to set your mind truly free to experience the joy of living. For this you have got to zealously guard your autonomy and keep away from organized religion [I call them 'MAFIAS'].
    You don't need anyone to define and teach you goodness. Submission to GOD is an euphemism for humilitiation. Only a GOD who hates would want that!



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #244 - July 14, 2010, 10:57 PM

    hugs have no clue if i can do anything to help, ateapotist, but I will be here for you
    for moral support  

    Uploaded onto YouTube just for you.. this clip from Medicine by Kim Leoni.  Thanks Jinn and Tonic hugs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osO7RM-tahU

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  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #245 - July 15, 2010, 01:42 AM

    awwwwww!!!!   ghost  ateapostist, really, though, if you EVER want to vent, i will be here for
    ya, to just listen, or try to offer encouraging words  yes
    stranger though i may be... i do care.

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #246 - July 15, 2010, 11:01 PM

    Thanks J&T.  hugs

    I'm sure I'll be alright.  Smiley I'm gonna pick myself up by the bootstraps and battle my way through like 'Bruce Lee'.  It'll make me a stronger and more self-reliant person.

    It's just a little annoying that my parents are trying to blackmail me back into Islam with a few important documents I left behind at their home.  I won't go into the details.  My coming out to them wasn't well planned, unfortunately.  I naively trusted them too much. no

    Not to worry; I'll think of a plan.  plan

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #247 - November 10, 2010, 11:12 PM

    I hope an asteroid hits the earth and kills all the men but me.  Jannah here I come!

    Cheesy

    Experiencing the genuine kindness and compassion of a total stranger could be one of your most uplifting moments of your life. It's a pure spiritual experience.

    Or it's just creepy.

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #248 - November 10, 2010, 11:42 PM


    It's just a little annoying that my parents are trying to blackmail me back into Islam with a few important documents I left behind at their home.  I won't go into the details.  My coming out to them wasn't well planned, unfortunately.  I naively trusted them too much. no

    birth certificate & degree certificates  whistling2

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  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #249 - November 11, 2010, 09:57 AM

    Hey IsLame,  ^^

    This is an old thread you are resurrecting.  I have moved on since then.  I am much happier and have decided not to waste anymore emotional energy into trying to persuade my family to accept my apostasy or return my documents.  I've managed to get replacement copies of all the documents I needed. i.e. my Kenyan birth certificate, my British passport, my British naturalisation/citizenship certificate etc.  I think I've got my degree certificate. (shit! I'd better check!)  If not, I can order a replacement copy, but it's gonna be a pain, by the looks of it.

    This kind of behaviour makes my so fuckin angry at relgion.  I wanna stab it in the heart 40 times and watch it bleed its heart out.  Can't Muslims just realise that this invisible, unprovable, impotent sky-daddy is complete baloney.  They prefer to maintain relationships with this imaginary friend at the expense of real family relationships.  A moral framework based on baloney is almost certainly an immoral framework.

    On a brighter note, I have learnt a lot from my experiences over this.  (hehe! I've learnt that I can be very good at playing mind-games, even against experienced opponents. Tongue )   I think I handled it reasonably well.  Although, I slipped up initially by not planning my coming out well enough.  To be honest, it was not really planned.  But then again, leaving Islam for someone from a very religious, orthodox family was always going to be difficult.  It's like escaping a cult.  There's no easy way.  Your life is so tightly-knit, and quite deliberately too.  It's an adaptation that cults have developed to ensure their survival.  Most cult members just don't bother even thinking about leaving.

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #250 - November 11, 2010, 11:48 AM

    Congratulations! Nature produces a fair number of mavericks to protect herself from the arrogant misdeeds of delusional people. You are one of them! Only a solidarity of free thinkers the world over can combat this 'religion menace'



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #251 - December 03, 2010, 10:00 PM

    CEMB got me through a "delayed" reaction to finally realizing there is NO
    big sky daddy.  I was angry, hurt, frustrated, and tired of all these feelings
    of guilt and fear, and wondering if I had made a mistake, and absolutely no one
    who could understand what I was going through, except all of you.

    Yes, I have ranted here and there, I had A LOT of pent up anger and frustration
    and then even moreso after realizing I had fallen for the greatest deceit of all.

    I moved across the country, and now I am super busy with LIFE instead of couped
    up in an apt day in and day out, scared someone from the masjid would see me
    without a hijab on, or ask why I didn't attend jummah any longer.  (i was there
    faithfully every friday).  

    So THANK YOU CEMB for your patience, and time you have spent with me, either
    in serious discussion, or bantering here and there.  I have learned more about
    Islam HERE than when I was a muslim!  YOUR painstaking stories and sacrifices
    made that possible, and helped give me a deeper understanding of what it was
    I was involved with.  thank you!

    I do enjoy it here, and I care about the ones just coming out of islam, and
    will give my all to comfort and reassure them as best I can.  

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #252 - December 03, 2010, 10:24 PM

    It's great having you here JnT  Afro

    You've helped me a lot as well  Smiley
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #253 - December 03, 2010, 11:20 PM

    Amen! Verily!



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #254 - January 23, 2011, 05:07 PM

    i put my videos on youtube private for a little while..
    lately my channel has been a dumping ground for a lot of peoples hate, bigotry..i could have put up with it , if it was contained to my channel and videos but some of my friends/ subs videos are being flooded with hate as a response to me..
    i just didn't want to be a part of that.. or the cause of it..
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #255 - January 23, 2011, 05:52 PM

    That sounds unfair to you, since you are not the one who is annoying people with bigotry. It's also unfair to all the people who will not get to see your beautiful videos... I think your friends and subs can let you know if you are indirectly causing them trouble?

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #256 - January 23, 2011, 06:33 PM

    i put my videos on youtube private for a little while..
    lately my channel has been a dumping ground for a lot of peoples hate, bigotry..i could have put up with it , if it was contained to my channel and videos but some of my friends/ subs videos are being flooded with hate as a response to me..
    i just didn't want to be a part of that.. or the cause of it..



    I know EXACTLY how you feel - I suffered the same thing and frankly it makes my skin crawl when I see such low-lifes applauding my videos and hovering round my channel - it makes me sick to my gut.

     far away hug
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #257 - January 23, 2011, 07:26 PM

    Just want to rant for 1 minute...

    I'm bored of Islam, I'm bored of religion, I'm bored of hearing about atrocities in the name of religion on the news, hearing religious apologists ass-kissing their imaginary friend so they can get their reward, worldly status or otherworldly bliss... I'm sick of saying "salaam" to Muslim people just to cover my ass, I'm sick of going home and getting the third degree from my mother every time for not praying, I'm sick of philosophy already - it just leaves you feeling empty and cold, I'm sick of feeling like I should be grateful because there are many more people living under Islamic rule who have it worse, or families they haven't told, or are stuck living at home, or have families who have disowned them. Much respect to those people...

    I'm sick of not being as good at "life" as other people who never had such a suffocating upbringing, always feeling a step behind. And yet why should I care? I've made progress. But it is never enough. It may never be enough. But I don't care. When I'm happy, I'm happier than I've ever been in my life. I just hope that I can one day make time to help others who are not so lucky, because right now I feel like a self-pitying sack of shit. I should be making Youtube videos, engaging in some kind of activism on some level, at least debating against Muslims, but I can never seem to make time ... life has just taken over ... it feels like I have become just another selfish consumer.

    /rant
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #258 - January 23, 2011, 07:36 PM

    Welcome to the other side.

    Islam is incredibly incredibly bland and boring and there are so many other things i'd rather discuss or think about. Islam only interests me in so far as its effect on peoples' minds, and its method of propagation. Other than that, i'd rather think about the stars, nature, etc.


    You HAVE come a long way. Smiley And others may have had less of a suffocating upbringing, but dont you feel more self aware today due to the fact that leaving islam made you really look around at things. Most people who have lived happy quiet lives are usually hardly as introspective and self aware as the ex-muslim crowd here. Smiley Its lovely and perhaps such experiences help us grow.

    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #259 - January 23, 2011, 07:49 PM

    Thanks, Eph.

    Yes, I feel like I've come along leaps and bounds since 2009. I don't care for Islam other than purely as a sociological thing either, I have really lost all interest in Muhammad and his stupid rants.

    What frustrates me is that I can't get my act together and help in some small way to make a change. Maybe I'm being too hard on myself, being back in uni (I have exams right now) but I really want to help make a change. I really have to start taking action when life calms down in a few weeks because I think that is what my life is missing, that kind of feeling you are giving back something rather than just taking all the time.
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #260 - January 23, 2011, 08:25 PM

    i put my videos on youtube private for a little while..
    lately my channel has been a dumping ground for a lot of peoples hate, bigotry..i could have put up with it , if it was contained to my channel and videos but some of my friends/ subs videos are being flooded with hate as a response to me..
    i just didn't want to be a part of that.. or the cause of it..



    Very sad to see this happen though - despite the fuckwits who comment and cheerlead - your vids spoke for themselves - your love of humanity and lack of hate was clear.

    I hope they will be back soon  far away hug
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #261 - January 23, 2011, 10:07 PM

    For me, it's not boredom. I started to develop a very-low tolerance for religions, myths and superstitions. It's not boredom but disgust. It's socially horrible to go around bashing people's beliefs, but I don't really care at this point. Not while others are killed and threatened because of their disbeliefs.

    Maybe this rage will pass. Maybe I'm zealous because I'm a new convert to free thinking and reason. But it's an amazing feeling to repeatedly confront "moderate" Muslims and help them get on the path to emancipate themselves from Islam.

    It is indeed very annoying that what you're doing here can be used by hateful bigots, but it's on them, not on you.
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #262 - February 08, 2011, 02:43 PM

    Quote
    For me, it's not boredom. I started to develop a very-low tolerance for religions, myths and superstitions. It's not boredom but disgust.

    I've reached a level of feeling embarrassment to debate and rationalise delusion, like it's a serious subject, with theists and wooists.

    Whenever it comes up, I seem to cringe, sigh and face-palm as a sort of reflex.

    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #263 - February 08, 2011, 03:11 PM

    I've reached a level of feeling embarrassment to debate and rationalise delusion, like it's a serious subject, with theists and wooists.

    Whenever it comes up, I seem to cringe, sigh and face-palm as a sort of reflex.


    I was interested to read your intro thread, but couldnt find it - can you link me up please?

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  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #264 - February 08, 2011, 03:22 PM

    I didn't make one.



    I've never come across another forum that's as obsessed with intro threads as this one, haha.  I now kind of understand why, though.  Still it's pretty funny.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyLwK6p7Tcw

    Yesss, hello, yesss, Intro Thread pleeeaaaaaaaszze.....

    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #265 - February 08, 2011, 03:50 PM

    It seems a shame as the forum is a much richer experience once people get to know each other and where they are coming from.

    Its probably because this forum is a little more personal , & that people choose to divulge their innermost thoughts here, sometimes thoughts that they have not shared with anybody else. 


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  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #266 - February 08, 2011, 04:02 PM

    It seems a shame as the forum is a much richer experience once people get to know each other and where they are coming from.

    Its probably because this forum is a little more personal , & that people choose to divulge their innermost thoughts here, sometimes thoughts that they have not shared with anybody else.  

    +1
    I've never come across another forum that's as obsessed with intro threads as this one, haha.  I now kind of understand why, though.  Still it's pretty funny.

    This is more then a random chat and socialize forum. It is Council of Ex-muslims. And we deal with real high profile issues here.

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  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #267 - February 08, 2011, 04:05 PM

    IsLame, I understand that.  I guess I got more used to 'getting to know' forumers (in other, usually different places like music and student boards) through their overall contribution to topics.  Mainly, though, I visit online communities to escape personal stuff or divulging in my personal drama.  However, I got especially more attached to this forum during my recent stay here in Jordan, where I really do feel rather isolated.  So getting personal might not be such a bad idea.

    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #268 - February 08, 2011, 04:08 PM

    Cool  Afro

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  • Re: Bored of Islam blah blah blah...
     Reply #269 - February 08, 2011, 04:10 PM

    ...(posted by error)...

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