the boundary problem of experience

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Re: the boundary problem of experience
Reply #30 - June 22, 2010, 07:40 PM

Quote from: BlackDog on June 22, 2010, 04:44 PM
You know he's an atheist right?

of course I do. Why are you asking? Did his questions make you feel uncomfortable about your atheism?

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Reply #31 - June 22, 2010, 08:00 PM

Quote from: debunker on June 22, 2010, 07:40 PM
of course I do. Why are you asking? Did his questions make you feel uncomfortable about your atheism?

ROFL of course not. Why would it?

Why would they make us uncomfortable

And thus, would they not make Z10 unfomfortable?

Besides, you are relating whatever conclusions you get from Z10's thoughts to Islam and Allah (Personal God). I would say that's inference, building blocks for your edifice of faith.
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Reply #32 - June 22, 2010, 08:08 PM

because his questions open many doors, not necessarily to the Quranic God, but they do challenge the status quo of atheism, an ideology that adopts physicalism.

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Reply #33 - June 22, 2010, 08:11 PM

I don't mind doors being opened. I have no fear.

How does it negate theism? I thought you would be happy to adopt the ideas in order to support theism?
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Reply #34 - June 22, 2010, 08:11 PM

oops I meant atheism.

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Reply #35 - June 22, 2010, 08:14 PM

Do you believe in the Dajaal?
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Reply #36 - June 22, 2010, 08:20 PM

LOOOL! Back to your lovely style of asking questions out of nowhere!

Well, Dajjal, Mehdi, the last signs of the Hour, I neither believe in them nor deny them... I simply don't know if they're true, nor do I care about them.

I know that the Hour will come suddenly and that only God knows its timing.

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Reply #37 - June 22, 2010, 08:29 PM

I agree with debunker- there is no reason why atheists must also be physicalists.

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Reply #38 - June 22, 2010, 08:33 PM

Quote from: debunker on June 22, 2010, 08:20 PM
LOOOL! Back to your lovely style of asking questions out of nowhere!

Well, Dajjal, Mehdi, the last signs of the Hour, I neither believe in them nor deny them... I simply don't know if they're true, nor do I care about them.

I know that the Hour will come suddenly and that only God knows its timing.

Cool. Another question.

Blue M&Ms or Yellow?

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Reply #39 - June 23, 2010, 10:02 PM

Quote from: z10 on June 22, 2010, 04:20 PM
Do you not find materialism/ physicalism to be a form of monism? A strict ontology of only one kind of thing?

No, they're two different areas of philosophy. Materialism is a theory about consciousness, whereas monism is expressing a mereological worldview.
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Reply #40 - June 23, 2010, 10:35 PM

Isn't this the reason why physicists are searching for a grand unification theory which describes both the macro level world we are able to experience and the quantum world?

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Reply #41 - June 23, 2010, 10:57 PM

Quote from: z10 on June 22, 2010, 08:29 PM
I agree with debunker- there is no reason why atheists must also be physicalists.

Dont you mean disagree? He said something like atheism adopts physicalism..

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Reply #42 - June 23, 2010, 11:01 PM

Quote from: debunker on June 22, 2010, 08:08 PM
because his questions open many doors, not necessarily to the Quranic God, but they do challenge the status quo of atheism, an ideology that adopts physicalism.

You do realise atheism does not mean there's no creator to most here, it only asserts a disbelief in the traditional religious Gods.

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