BF Checklist:
Muslim girls and boys are also forced to fast when the don't want to: Dunno bout that but social pressure
not allowed to socialize when the want: To an extent, annoys me
wear the latest fashion they want to: would be allowed
question things how they want: wouldn't dare, Izzat
shave their face (boys) or legs (girls): He shaves
enjoy playtime: He does do, cricket et al
learn and instrument: never wanted to as I know
visit the house of a non-Muslim friends let alone ever: Visits me so hah
had a childhood boyfriend/girlfriend relationship: He had me and still does
Not doing too badly am I?
Your BF is doing VERY WELL indeed compared to the many thousands of Muslim children in the Western world (by my guestimate).
Wow. Thanks for sharing. TBH if I grew up in a household as religious as yours, I would probably have ended up much more pessimistic.
Quick point: my household isn't this bad, but I know many of my stricter relatives who are that bad. I've had to very rebellious to earn a lot of freedoms in my household though.
views of people like khadija will prevail.Bear in mind,being deluded is like being on a trip, you are not aware of all the real pains.She has just begun her " LSD trip" so everything is so nice and pleasant.Only her daughter who makes a
'free choice',facilitated suitably by right islamic education, has any chance of painfully knowing the truth and rebelling.
In the mean time crooked tyrants will be mocking everyone behind the veil of "FREE CHOICE".
+1
Having said what I said in the posts above, I should add that the libertarian inside me agrees with MrSilly that the state should not dictate to people what they can and can't wear in public. Private premises can have rules of their own.
I disagree, I think the state should set boundaries for which citizens should play nicely. It is the middle ground between being 100% authoritarian and 100% chaotic (via 100% freedom). All things in moderation.
Also, I think a ban would make us look very authoritarian, and the British people are very tolerant of other cultures.
I think it would show British people have a spine to know what is best for people and stick to values that have taken blood, sweat and tears to earn. It would show British people are open to other cultures, but not soo open minded & accepting they become deluded to PC and moral relativism with regards to a less developed culture.
It is a complicated issue and I am not saying that banning the niqab would solve all problems. This needs to be thought through very carefully. There maybe many other better ways to solve the problem of women's oppression. For example:
- Putting pressure on religious leaders (and Muslim schools) to promote a more progressive interpretation of Islam.
- Educating young women on their rights.
- Promoting integration of Muslims into mainstream society in a variety of ways.
- Promoting the mixing of different cultures and religions.
- Side-lining religion and promoting secular humanism.
- Ensuring Muslim teenage girls have access to the internet.
- And last but not least, ridiculing the niqab greatly, so here's a picture to that effect:
I absolutely agree with these recommendations.
I one thing is: why must the state have to work so hard in trying to influence a religion? The British government is funding this in various ways, but at the end of the day it is dawaganda marketing Vs a dynamically evolving memeplex which given the boundaries to exist (e.g. wearing a veil), will do. I've yet to ponder more over this matter however, not my final take on it.
Topic: Maryam Namazie interview: Ireland: