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  • What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     OP - July 21, 2010, 03:41 PM
    Ive read up a bit on the term, but still not sure exactly who they are.

    Can someone, in layman terms expain exactly who/what they are?
    (is that a loaded question or what! LOL)
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #1 - July 21, 2010, 03:47 PM
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahabi
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #2 - July 21, 2010, 03:51 PM
    IA.,.. i have already been there.  I need layman's terms please LOL but ty Smiley
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #3 - July 21, 2010, 03:51 PM
    This!



    Anyway, a Wahabi would be someone who follows a fundamentalist Islam that rejects the four major schools of thought and says that Muslims should just follow the Qur'an and the Hadith. They would be described as being fundamentalist and literalist. There consider the word "Wahabbi" to be derogatory and prefer to be called "Salafis"

    And the favourite saying of the Wahabbi is "Where is your daleel brother?!"
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #4 - July 21, 2010, 03:53 PM
    Quote from: Mixu Paatelainen on July 21, 2010, 03:51 PM
    And the favourite saying of the Wahabbi is "Where is your daleel brother?!"


    Daleel means proof doesn't it?
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #5 - July 21, 2010, 04:07 PM
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    Wahhabism is a puritanical form of Sunni Islam and is practiced in   Saudi Arabia and Qatar, although it is much less rigidly enforced in the latter. The word  “Wahhabi” is derived from the name of a Muslim scholar, Muhammad bin Abd al  Wahhab, who lived in the Arabian peninsula during the eighteenth century (1703-1791).  Today, the term “Wahhabism” is broadly applied outside of the Arabian peninsula to refer  to a Sunni Islamic movement that seeks to purify Islam of any innovations or practices  that deviate from the seventh-century teachings of the Prophet Muhammad and his  companions.

    History of Wahhabism:      Muhammad bin Abd al Wahhab, whose name is the source of the word “Wahhabi,” founded a religious movement in the Arabian peninsula during the eighteenth century (1703-1791) that sought to reverse what he perceived as the moral decline of his society. In particular, Abd al Wahhab denounced many popular Islamic beliefs and practices as idolatrous. Ultimately, he encouraged a “return” to the  pure and orthodox practice of the “fundamentals” of Islam, as embodied in the Quran and in the life of the Prophet Muhammad. Muhammad bin Saud, the ancestral founder of the  modern-day Al Saud dynasty, partnered with Abd al Wahhab to begin the process of  unifying disparate tribes in the Arabian Peninsula. Their partnership formed the basis for  a close political relationship between their descendants that continues today.

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #6 - July 21, 2010, 04:10 PM
    So would wahabism be directly correlated to shariah law, then?
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #7 - July 21, 2010, 04:11 PM
    Look up Sheikh Feiz's lectures on Youtube if you wanna know what a salafi/wahabi is.  Afro
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #8 - July 21, 2010, 04:13 PM
    ty.. ive watched a video of his on this.  Im SLOWLY comprihending it lol
    *must be daft or something  Cry *
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #9 - July 21, 2010, 04:42 PM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on July 21, 2010, 03:41 PM
    Ive read up a bit on the term, but still not sure exactly who they are.

    Can someone, in layman terms expain exactly who/what they are?
    (is that a loaded question or what! LOL)


    Wahhabis follow a very literalists and puritanical form of Islam that they claim is the pure and uncorrupted Islam of Muhamad and the first generation - the Salaf - which is why they are also called Salafis.

    It is the state religion of Saudi Arabia and has spread all over the Muslim world influencing every corner - though they are not by any means the majority - they do tend to be very vocal and active.

    Yes they certainly support Shari'ah Law and see it as the only legitimate rule of law for mankind and seek to implement it wherever they live - though unlike the group known as HizbuTahrir (and al Muhajoroun) they don't see this as a top down process (i.e. topple the state and replace it with a Khalifah) but a bottom up process, as in they want to bugger everyone change people through Da'wa and hope to change the society that way.

    In recent times the two militant movements have largely merged in the UK and are often indistinguishable.  
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #10 - July 21, 2010, 04:53 PM
    If only they were as adamant about proof of the religion as they are for proof in the religion.
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #11 - July 21, 2010, 05:06 PM
    Hassan... AH!  Na ru ho do!  (japanese.. in essence.. ah!  now i understand)
    That would also explain the strict orthodox rhetoric my "instructors" taught me.
    and also their scoffing of the Sufis, as well?  TYVM  Smiley

    EDIT:  that would be "Sensei Hassan" lol
    (the respectful reference to a teacher)
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #12 - July 21, 2010, 05:10 PM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on July 21, 2010, 05:06 PM
    Hassan... AH!  Na ru ho do!  (japanese.. in essence.. ah!  now i understand)
    That would also explain the strict orthodox rhetoric my "instructors" taught me.
    and also their scoffing of the Sufis, as well?  TYVM  Smiley

    EDIT:  that would be "Sensei Hassan" lol
    (the respectful reference to a teacher)


    OMG they hate Sufis almost as much as the Shi'a... almost as much I say  grin12
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #13 - July 21, 2010, 05:10 PM
    Aren't Al Qaeda Wahhabis?
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

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  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #14 - July 21, 2010, 05:15 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on July 21, 2010, 05:10 PM
    Aren't Al Qaeda Wahhabis?


    I would say yes. Though some say they are influenced by the Muslim Brotherhood (Hassan al-Banna and Sayyid Qutb and especially Azzam - which is true...) - and you will hear moderate Wahhabis (I know the words are oxymorons) adamantly rejecting that al-Qaeda are wahabbis  Salafis (they don't like the term Wahhabi) - but they're just talking shit and trying to distance themselves from al-Qaeda.

    You see the Wahhabis have split into "moderate" Wahaabis (those who support Saudi Scholars) and the "Jihadi" Wahhabis - those who support Al-Qaeda (and HATE the rulers of Saudi Arabia)

    ps The Muslim Brotherhood though separate from Wahhabis originally - are now pretty much the same.

  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #15 - July 21, 2010, 05:19 PM
    Sheikh Feiz tells it like it is regarding Sufis and Shi'a:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwy9OEVpM1s&feature=PlayList&p=FE25E6AC02EF8A39&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=3
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #16 - July 21, 2010, 05:22 PM
    Sheikh Feiz is living proof that neanderthals never went extinct.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #17 - July 21, 2010, 05:28 PM
    2.50 "OOOh shut that door!" (Larry Grayson for those old enough lol)

    What a wanker this guy is - I knew a few like him - they get a hard on manipulating their audience.
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #18 - July 21, 2010, 06:47 PM
    Wahabi peas are nice
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #19 - July 21, 2010, 06:56 PM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on July 21, 2010, 03:51 PM
    IA.,.. i have already been there.  I need layman's terms please LOL but ty Smiley

    Sorry.

    They wear short dishdashas and grow long beards.  Is that layman enough for you?   Tongue

    BTW, I have a aunt who married a Wahabi. My grandpa didn't speak with her for a year after that.
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #20 - July 21, 2010, 06:57 PM
    Quote from: CocoPop on July 21, 2010, 06:47 PM
    Wahabi peas are nice


    Kaffir limes are better.  Afro
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #21 - July 21, 2010, 07:05 PM
    Quote from: Zebedee on July 21, 2010, 06:57 PM
    Kaffir limes are better.  Afro



    Kaffir limes AND wahabi peas .. now THAT's an explosive combo!
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #22 - July 21, 2010, 07:10 PM
    LOL!
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #23 - July 21, 2010, 07:13 PM
    *doffs cap*

    My work here is done grin12
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #24 - July 21, 2010, 07:14 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGzsWRLYf9M
    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #25 - July 21, 2010, 07:21 PM
    As a former Shia myself I was VERY tempted to see the videos posted so far in this thread....but then thought "ah fuck it!"
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #26 - July 21, 2010, 07:24 PM
    As a matter of fact, my dad has some cassettes of an angry imam preaching in Urdu that "THE SHIA ARE KAFIR".
    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #27 - July 21, 2010, 07:27 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on July 21, 2010, 05:28 PM
    2.50 "OOOh shut that door!" (Larry Grayson for those old enough lol)



    I'm not old enough but I do get that reference! How Sad!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #28 - July 21, 2010, 07:34 PM
    Quote from: olweasel on July 21, 2010, 07:24 PM
    As a matter of fact, my dad has some cassettes of an angry imam preaching in Urdu that "THE SHIA ARE KAFIR".

    Yeah heard that before. Load of times. Again and again.  Roll Eyes

    Your dad sounds like he's probably a fan of the Sipah-e-Sahaba.
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: What EXACLTY is a Wahabi?
     Reply #29 - July 21, 2010, 07:40 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on July 21, 2010, 05:10 PM
    OMG they hate Sufis almost as much as the Shi'a... almost as much I say  grin12

    There was a feature series about Sufis in Kuwait in the newspaper some years ago and it had to be cut short because a bunch of Salafis or what-have-yous protested and started writing articles talking about how the Sufis are not Muslim or whatever. wacko
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