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  • Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     OP - August 22, 2010, 03:58 PM

    Sickening, and I think it speaks volume about the south asian society (as such incidents occur in the nearby countries as well), when you have people and policemen watching, yet doing nothing to stop those bastards.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flh_-D4SX9w&feature=player_embedded
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #1 - August 22, 2010, 04:43 PM

    Cry  *shakes head with despair*

    Here's the news article from Dawn about it:

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    ISLAMABAD: Horrified by a brutal incident of vigilante justice, the Supreme Court on Friday came down hard on law-enforcement personnel and their superior officers who stood by and watched as two young brothers were tortured and then hanged by a mob in Sialkot.

    It ordered Anti-Corruption Director General Justice (retd) Kazim Malik to investigate the matter. No-one would dare to take law into his own hands if police had the courage and command to eradicate such brutal and inhuman practices from the society, Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry observed while heading a bench which had taken a suo motu action on the matter.

    On Aug 15, dozens of people publicly beat to death two young brothers, Hafiz Mughees, 15, and Hafiz Muneeb, 19, in the presence of Sialkot District Police Officer Waqar Chauhan and eight other police officers who watched the brutal act as silent spectators. The bodies were later hanged upside down on the chowk.

    Litigants and counsel were shocked and the atmosphere became tense when the gruesome video footage aired by a private TV channel was shown in the courtroom. And it was too much to bear for the grief-stricken grandfather and father of the deceased who started wailing after watching it.

    When DPO Chauhan informed the court that the SHO concerned had been arrested, but culprits were yet to be detained, the chief justice said he (Mr Chauhan) deserved to be suspended and sent to jail straightaway. The negligence shown by police could not be ignored, the CJ observed.

    “What message have you given to the world about Pakistan,” he asked the DPO and said: “Nowhere in a civilised society such an incident takes place in the presence of police.”

    He said the country was already facing disasters and crisis with people dying of hunger, but police were indulging in extra-judicial killings.

    The chief justice deplored the apathy of top police officers and senior federal government officials who were aware of the incident.

    “Not only it was the duty of police to stop those who were beating the two brothers, but the people in the mob should also have shown moral courage by preventing the beating,” the chief justice said.

    Secretary establishment Ismail Qureshi, who had been urgently summoned, informed the court that there was no dearth of good and honest officers who could probe the matter independently.

    The court ordered him to ask the Punjab government to take strict disciplinary action against Superintendent Police (investigations) Mohammad Afzal and DPO Chauhan.
     
    The Inspector General of Punjab was directed to take strict action against the police officers who were present at the crime scene but did nothing to stop it. The case will be taken up again on Sept 1.

    Our Sialkot Correspondent adds: District Police Officer Sialkot Waqar Ahmad Chauhan and SP investigation were made officer on special duty on Friday by the Inspector-General of Police, Punjab.

    The police, meanwhile, registered a case against 14 policemen, including the suspended SHO, in the wake of the murder of two brothers on Aug 15.

    Inspector Rana Mohammad Ilyas was SHO Sadar when the mob tortured the two brothers to death suspecting them to be robbers.


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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #2 - August 22, 2010, 04:55 PM

    Such brutality for a supposed robbery?! That's just... sick :/

  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #3 - August 22, 2010, 05:36 PM

     vomit No word can describe this!

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #4 - August 23, 2010, 11:30 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y59BGt2BjZA&has_verified=1

     
    There is something hidden behind these public murders of those two kids...



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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #5 - August 23, 2010, 11:40 AM

    People of the town gone mad....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpWm3JfSewA


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBKf4GrcDtE

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #6 - August 23, 2010, 11:47 AM

    Two Brothers, 15 & 17 YEAR OLD....


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDe8KQTMj08


    PACK OF WILD DOGS   BETTER THAN THESE BRUTES

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp8A5taJZuw






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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #7 - August 23, 2010, 11:55 AM

    MOTHER OF TWO KIDS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SID8iq3QHE

    Grandfather of the kids  brutally killed in Sialkot
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=399xaCTelFk


    It is hard to see grandfather  not sure what should be done to those who are responsible to these public murders..  I hate Islamic Justice but I want Justice....

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #8 - August 23, 2010, 12:03 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLol51J9PEc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgiYPpiQS6Q

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #9 - August 23, 2010, 12:44 PM

    Can anyone who speak Pakistani tell us the story? Stealing surly is not the reason they killed them! Sharia law says cut their hands, not kill them. So what are the news?

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #10 - August 23, 2010, 12:58 PM

    Can anyone who speak Pakistani tell us the story? Stealing surly is not the reason they killed them! Sharia law says cut their hands, not kill them. So what are the news?



    How much less barbaric is that?

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #11 - August 23, 2010, 01:05 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTLTKKlk0Nk

    According to this clip, apparently there were some sort of robbery at a village, where one was killed and three were injured. These two brothers were traveling by this village. An elder brother of the one who was killed during the robbery, had some dispute with these two brohters during a cricket match, and therefore told others that they were involved in the robbery. Thus some coward bastards started to beat them with sticks.

    One of the brothers was apparently a devoted muslim, who even lead taraweeh prayers, and was a hafiz.
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #12 - August 23, 2010, 01:59 PM

    Can anyone who speak Pakistani tell us the story? Stealing surly is not the reason they killed them! Sharia law says cut their hands, not kill them. So what are the news?


    Pakistani isn't actually a language!

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #13 - August 23, 2010, 02:00 PM


    How much less barbaric is that?

    Both are bad, barbaric and unfair punishments.... there is no doubt!

    But, if I was to choose between having one of my hands cut off, or brutaly murdered by constantly being hit by a group of thugs for half an hour with a club all over my body? Hmmm.... I wonder which one I would pick?   What would you choose? Thinking hard

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #14 - August 23, 2010, 02:01 PM

    Pakistani isn't actually a language!


    Urdu? I meant the language of people of Pakistan. No one in the mood of answering I take it!  Roll Eyes

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #15 - August 23, 2010, 02:03 PM

    I would but I can't understand Urdu very well, I speak a regional dialect of Punjabi. But the jist of it is they thought they were thieves and it was vigilante justice (I think) - and apparently both of the boys were Hifz

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #16 - August 23, 2010, 02:05 PM

    Both are bad, barbaric and unfair punishments.... there is no doubt!

    But, if I was to choose between having one of my hands cut off, or brutaly murdered by constantly being hit by a group of thugs for half an hour with a club all over my body? Hmmm.... I wonder which one I would pick?   What would you choose? Thinking hard


    I should have added that it has been reported that people have cut one of their limps off in certain life threatening accidents, like being traped under cars or under water. They obviously chosen to live!

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #17 - August 23, 2010, 02:19 PM

    Urdu? I meant the language of people of Pakistan. No one in the mood of answering I take it!  Roll Eyes


    I already did.
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #18 - August 23, 2010, 02:44 PM

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    One of the brothers was  apparently a devoted muslim, who even lead taraweeh prayers, and was a hafiz.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ze5kHLXACk


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7G3wsEHdY

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjSC7s46hyU

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #19 - August 23, 2010, 02:49 PM

    I feel numb after watching these videos. Sadly some people will believe that the beatings and torture would have been acceptable if they were guilty and that the only thing wrong is that the victims were innocent.

    We are in favor of tolerance, but it is a very difficult thing to tolerate the intolerant and impossible to tolerate the intolerable.

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #20 - August 23, 2010, 03:02 PM

    I feel numb after watching these videos. Sadly some people will believe that the beatings and torture would have been acceptable if they were guilty and that the only thing wrong is that the victims were innocent.

    GUILTY? ..GUILTY?? how on this earth a 8th grade kid and 10th grade kids look like Dacoits to this rage filled Punjabi Muslim Mob??
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    ( Known Dacoit (K.D.) is a term used by the  police forces in Indian subcontinent (Pakistan to Bangladesh) to classify criminal activity involving robbery by groups of armed bandits.


    Some of these barbaric  bastards who were beating them knew[/b]  those kids were playing cricket on the ground of that town

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #21 - August 23, 2010, 03:09 PM

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11062184



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    Pakistan's government has launched an inquiry into the brutal killing by a mob of two teenage brothers in the eastern city of Sialkot.

    The 15 August lynchings were captured on video and have outraged Pakistanis.

    In the footage the youths protest their innocence as they are beaten with sticks and wires by a group of men before being strung up on metal poles.

    Police officers and other on-lookers did nothing. Officials say the mob mistook the brothers for robbers.

    The BBC's Syed Shoaib Hasan in Islamabad says it is clear from the footage that the two brothers - Mughees Butt, 19, and Muneeb Butt, 15 - were alive as they were hung from the poles.

    At one point, the screaming youths ask to be shot so their ordeal might end.

    Local police officials have been suspended while the investigation is held.

    Our correspondent says the lynching has raised more questions about the government at a time when its popularity has plummeted to new depths, following accusations it was slow to respond to floods that have caused havoc across Pakistan.


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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #22 - August 23, 2010, 03:17 PM

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    One of the brothers was  apparently a devoted muslim, who even lead taraweeh prayers, and was a hafiz.


    Why did you quote that? I was just translating the report, it of course makes no difference to me. And I also felt it necessary to voice that even if they were reportedly devoted muslims, it made no difference to the mob.

    GUILTY? ..GUILTY?? how on this earth a 8th grade kid and 10th grade kids look like Dacoits to this rage filled Punjabi Muslim Mob??
    Some of these barbaric  bastards who were beating them knew[/b]  those kids were playing cricket on the ground of that town


    I don't think islam was any issue here, so I don't see why you have to mention the mob being muslims. There are several similar incidents that have occured in India, carried out by non muslims. I think the problem here lies in the south asian scoiety, rather than religion.

    Other than that I agree. You have to be pretty brain dead to not see the difference between a couple of children, and dacoits.
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #23 - August 23, 2010, 03:26 PM

    Why did you quote that? I was just translating the report,...

    I knew that elder boy was hafiz brfore you translated my friend..

    Quote
    I don't think islam was any issue here, so I don't see why you have to mention the mob being muslims.

    Because they are..
    Quote
    There are several similar incidents that have occured in India, carried out by non muslims. I think the problem here lies in the south asian scoiety, rather than religion.

     Do Jihad on Indians/hindus whatever.   When I say Jihad., expose the rogues on web... ., If you can not., give me the links I will put it out in one of those forums.

    Quote
    Other than that I agree. You have to be pretty brain dead to not see the difference between a couple of children, and dacoits.

    That two in presence of 8 to 10  Police watching that tamash and station being close to that place where that incident occurred..

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #24 - August 23, 2010, 03:27 PM

    Mob justice is often regarded as the best way of dealing with crime because of the mistrust towards the police, who are often accused of being complicit in criminal activity. Gangs often have a lot of political influence and power in South Asia as they operate below the surface.

    This was the case of a bunch of angry people taking their frustrations and anger and rage too far!

    This was inexcusable.

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #25 - August 23, 2010, 03:40 PM


    What was their supposed crime?



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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #26 - August 23, 2010, 03:50 PM

    i agree with atheist.pk .

    there are large tracts of south asia where the police is simply considered ineffective and in cahoots with local gangs or worse a competitor with local gangs for tyrannical and criminal behaviour.

    most of this kind of violence in india happens in UP / Bihar / WB / Orissa, places of very high population density, very poor standard of living and very corrupt law and order system.
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #27 - August 23, 2010, 03:50 PM

    What was their supposed crime?

    It started with a fight  playing cricket on a ground and those who started the fight branded them as dacoits  and now Mob takes over..

    News says "14 arrested in Sialkot lynching case"


    Quote
    Interior Minister Rehman Malik has said that 14 people including four policemen have been held in the brutal public killing of two brothers in Sialkot.

    Addressing the media in Sialkot, Malik said the culprits involved in the heinous crime would be duly punished. He appealed to the citizens of Sialkot to come forward and provide any information they had regarding the incident. He added that authorities have compiled a list of names of those under investigation and the federal government will be providing support in terms of intelligence and logistics as investigations continue.

    Strike announced

    Jamaat-e-Islami leader Liaqat Baloch also visited the family of the two brothers who were beaten to death by a mob in Sialkot. He said the party has announced a nationwide strike on Friday against this atrocity.
    Quote
    Prime suspect SHO Rana Ilyas escapes from custody

    The prime accused in the lynching of two brothers in Sialkot, SHO Rana Ilyas, managed to evade custody on Saturday and is currently at large. Ilyas, who fled from the office of the DSP Sialkot, was brought to the office so that he could be produced before a court for a judicial remand.  The District Coordination Officer (DCO) Sialkot, Mujahid Sher Dil, has confirmed that the lynched youths had no criminal record. Sher Dil held the Sialkot police responsible for the incident as police officials witnessed the whole incident as silent spectators.

    Police claimed to have arrested two police officers and five others who were present at the time the two brothers were beaten to death in public. Police contingents also stepped up efforts to apprehend six other officers who witnessed the murder but made little attempt to stop the mob.


    DPO Sialkot Afzal Mehmood Butt said that five suspects involved in torturing the brothers had been rounded up and both of them were currently being investigated. “The culprits are still under investigation and we cannot release their names as yet. ..........

    According to the family, the police registered a case against the SHO, a sub-inspector, four ASIs and eight other police officials under Section 155-C of the Police Ordinance. The section deals with misconduct by police officers when they are guilty of “any wilful breach or neglect of any provision of law or of any rule or regulation or any order which [they are] bound to observe or obey.” The maximum punishment under this section is three years in prison, with or without a fine.
    Quote
     , an FIR however has been lodged in Saddar police station Sialkot under Sections 302 and 109 of the PPC (which deal with pre-meditated murder and abetment, respectively) against thirty people including 17 of those who were captured in the video footage. The other 13 accused are police officials, against whom a case – under 155-C of the Police Order – has already been registered. The 13 police officers include SHO Rana Ilyas Sub Inspector Gulzar, ASI Riaz Tariq, Sarfaraz, Waris Ali, Khaliq, Constable Rizwan, Nathay Khan, Mubarak Ali, Nawaz Salim and Abdul Razak.

    While the family of the deceased boys and locals insists the boys were innocent, the family of the victim of a robbery, Bilal, contested this view. “You can go ask anyone, these boys were the robbers and they killed my husband. Why is my family being accused of spreading false rumours when we are the ones who lost someone? We didn’t kill those boys but they killed my husband,” said Bilal’s widow, adding that the media and locals had been threatening her family to keep quiet about the robbery incident that preceded the mob lynching of young brothers Mueez and Muneeb Butt...

     That is what exactly happens when Police doesn't behave like police force and Feudal of town rule ever thing in town ...

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  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #28 - August 23, 2010, 03:58 PM

    if they were Quran Hafiz? where is the protection of Allah, where is the protection of the Quran? or did he go fishing?

    ...
  • Re: Killing of two brothers by mob in Pakistan
     Reply #29 - August 23, 2010, 04:08 PM

    It started with a fight  playing cricket on a ground and those who started the fight branded them as dacoits  and now Mob takes over..



    The poor souls. What a horrific thing.


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