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Re: Charity offers UK drug addicts ?200 to be sterilised
Reply #30 - October 24, 2010, 10:02 PM

Quote from: Ferrero on October 24, 2010, 06:39 PM
Horrid idea. Like thinkfree mentioned, what should we extend this incentive to? Disabled people? Alcoholics? The mentally retarded? Racists? Teenage mothers? Those depressed and suicidal? People who wants kids so they feel loved/other selfish reason? Also, like ishina mentioned, we should not lose sight of the fact that although drug addicts and all the aforementioned unfortunate individuals, are still human beings and they need help not some hard cash, which will not deter these negative behaviours. Dealing simply with the symptoms doesn't get to the cure of the problem.

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Quote from: King Tut on October 24, 2010, 08:08 PM
Don't really see the objection, more money should be offered as an incentive to be sterilized, maybe starting with the poor. Since rather then just the drugs addicts within the next 100 years we can lower the world population and also drastically reduce poverty, since children will not be born into a poverty stricken family, thus being removed from the cycle of poverty.

Sometimes, we need to make rational decisions as opposed to emotional ones, we live on a planet with finite resources.

What?? You even want the poor to be sterilised. Shocking, King Tut!! Shocking!

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Reply #31 - February 22, 2014, 10:06 AM

I know this is a very old thread, but the fact that people still promote eugenics shows we never fucking learn.
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Reply #32 - February 22, 2014, 10:30 AM

Quote from: EzraJT on February 22, 2014, 10:06 AM
I know this is a very old thread, but the fact that people still promote eugenics shows we never fucking learn.

I was under the impression that it started in AMRIKA

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/04/23/cb.addicts.debate.cnn

So who is right and who is wrong ET??

So Why AMRIKA spending 7 billion dollars to control Asian FISH instead of spending that to educate or promote /support foster home or government operated hostels for these children?

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Reply #33 - February 22, 2014, 10:31 AM

Um..what?
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Reply #34 - February 22, 2014, 10:33 AM

Quote from: EzraJT on February 22, 2014, 10:31 AM
Um..what?

I don't know.. it is 3 AM.. better to get some sleep ET..

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Reply #35 - February 22, 2014, 10:36 AM

What point are you trying to make, or are you simply being random?
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Reply #36 - February 22, 2014, 11:55 AM

Anyway, the people promoting this are elitist pieces of shit who need to choke on their own diarrhea.
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Reply #37 - February 22, 2014, 11:33 PM

You'd think they'd try getting universal health care for their own country before wasting money in the UK like this.

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Reply #38 - February 22, 2014, 11:40 PM

Well, the two major parties are firmly against "universal health care" (Obama's cabinet has been the most hardline against it) and I'm pretty sure the kind of people in this group are against such a thing. These are eugenicist trying to wipe out the poor after all.

Besides a lot of Americans are against universal health care, for a variety of reasons.
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Reply #39 - February 22, 2014, 11:47 PM

Death panels and such?

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Reply #40 - February 22, 2014, 11:50 PM

What do you mean, death panels?
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Reply #41 - February 22, 2014, 11:58 PM

Wasn't that something that was being screamed about some years ago when Obama wanted to expand health care? "The UK has universal health care and they have death panels and Obama and his dad, Satan, want to kill your grandma"?

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Reply #42 - February 23, 2014, 12:02 AM

Oh, yeah, that. Yes, I do remember some rhetoric about "death panels" which was some image of bureaucrats deciding if you live or die, which is ironic, since that already exists in health insurance companies. The other irony is "Obamacare" doesn't expand health care, it simply requires you buy private insurance or get heavily fined by the government, which Mitt Romney already implemented in Massachusetts, and of course is taking the whole state down with it, lol.

Also the main source of opposition in my personal experience from others is the government shouldn't provide health care because you should just buy it yourself. If you can't pay for it, you're not worthy.
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Reply #43 - February 23, 2014, 12:05 AM

Rather Darwinian of you.

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Reply #44 - February 23, 2014, 12:06 AM

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and of course is taking the whole state down with it

Can you expand on that?

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Reply #45 - February 23, 2014, 12:11 AM

Massachusetts has the most expensive health care system on the planet and it's gobbling up its GDP. It's unsustainable, and doesn't even provide insurance (different from care) to everyone. And this is the model the Democrats chose, since they're well, not all that different from the Republicans, obviously.

The irony is most Americans want "universal health care" but most Americans are apathetic idiots who don't vote, don't get politically active and don't pay attention, we're just a bunch of zombies in this country. We're getting what we deserve.
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