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OP - November 07, 2010, 06:13 PM

Hey guys,

You've got a great website here.

I'm an ex muslim from Pakistan. Recently I spent some time studying overseas, where I was exposed to a lot of people from different religions, as well as atheists. I haven't been particularly religious for a long time anyhow, but after living overseas and being free to investigate Islam from an objective point of view, I stopped believing in it completely.

Sadly I only had 2 years on my visa, and it was during the same time as I gave up Islam that my visa was running out, and soon I flew back home. It was a strange experience to be an atheist in Pakistan for the first time, hearing the azan, having conversations with people in which they often say things like 'mashallah,' 'inshallah', etc.

Anyway, I'm planning to take some exams and save up some money, and most likely I should be able to return back overseas sometime in 2012. I'm just joining here to talk to other ex muslims and blow off steam during the remaining 1-2 years I have to spend in Pakistan .

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Re: New ex muslim
Reply #1 - November 07, 2010, 06:14 PM

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Reply #2 - November 07, 2010, 06:16 PM

Hello welcome on board, whereabouts in Pak like even just regionally if you are scared for your safety?
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Reply #3 - November 07, 2010, 06:18 PM

I'm in Punjab

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Reply #4 - November 07, 2010, 06:19 PM

Hi, we have an ex-Muslim from Egypt here named zizo who's really into ninja turtle porn.

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Reply #5 - November 07, 2010, 06:21 PM

Welcome to the forum!

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Reply #6 - November 07, 2010, 06:24 PM

Quote from: Q-Man on November 07, 2010, 06:19 PM
Hi, we have an ex-Muslim from Egypt here named zizo who's really into ninja turtle porn.

Lol. I didn't know there was ninja turtle porn around..

Are there any other ex muslims from Pakistan here?

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Reply #7 - November 07, 2010, 06:27 PM

Other ex-Muslims from Pakistan? Yeah, plenty. Most living elsewhere right now, but we have a few who still live in Pakistan.

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Reply #8 - November 07, 2010, 06:30 PM

My boyfriend is from Pak, half Punjabi half Pashtun.
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Reply #9 - November 07, 2010, 06:33 PM

Quote from: donatelo on November 07, 2010, 06:13 PM
Anyway, I'm planning to take some exams and save up some money, and most likely I should be able to return back overseas sometime in 2012. I'm just joining here to talk to other ex muslims and blow off steam during the remaining 1-2 years I have to spend in Pakistan .

Tell us more about your journey towards apostacy and how you eventually found you fellow murtad comrades on this forum right here..

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Reply #10 - November 07, 2010, 06:53 PM

Welcome

I'm also from Pakistan. But from Karachi.

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Reply #11 - November 07, 2010, 06:54 PM

Quote from: Q-Man on November 07, 2010, 06:19 PM
Hi, we have an ex-Muslim from Egypt here named zizo who's really into ninja turtle porn.

ROFL.

Hi and welcome

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Reply #12 - November 07, 2010, 06:54 PM

The journey was fairly simple. Apart from a few months when I was 9-10 years old, I've never been very religious, in fact I hated all the rules of islam, e.g prayers, keeping a beard, lowering your eyes on seeing a girl, not watching movies, not listening to music, etc. I couldn't see the sense in most of those rules. I also read the translation of quran several times, and didn't find anything miraculous there like all the mullahs claim there is...

Eventually sometime last year I started to research islam from an unbiased point of view. I learnt about the life of mohammed, jihad, evolution, and a lot of things. Eventually all my beliefs about islam just started to fall apart, and I simply stopped believing.

I think I saw a youtube video which had a link to this forum, and that led me here.

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Reply #13 - November 07, 2010, 06:55 PM

Quote from: Faiz on November 07, 2010, 06:53 PM
Welcome

I'm also from Pakistan. But from Karachi.

Nice to meet you . You're up very late like me!

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Reply #14 - November 07, 2010, 06:57 PM

A quarter of our (active) members are Pakistani, according to this thread.

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=12464.msg346807#msg346807

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Reply #15 - November 07, 2010, 07:11 PM

welcome bro! i also lived in pakistan but now im in the west. gotta say being open minded and exploring different cultures / traditions is the best way to ruin your iman

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Reply #16 - November 07, 2010, 07:17 PM

Quote from: Loki on November 07, 2010, 06:14 PM
Welcome to the forum!

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DP? lol?

@donatelo welcome bro
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Reply #17 - November 07, 2010, 07:18 PM

Quote from: donatelo on November 07, 2010, 06:13 PM
It was a strange experience to be an atheist in Pakistan for the first time, hearing the azan, having conversations with people in which they often say things like 'mashallah,' 'inshallah', etc.

In addition to some household phrases in the Pakistani lexicon:

"Allah tumare daw'a kabool kare"
"Allah ke taruff se"
"Allah ke hathao me hein"
"Allah maaf kare"
"Allah jaan bachale"

My mom gets compulsive with this when speaking to relatives over the phone.

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Reply #18 - November 07, 2010, 08:06 PM

I have pakistani background too. But I'm born and raised in Europe.

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Reply #19 - November 07, 2010, 08:14 PM

Welcome !

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #20 - November 07, 2010, 08:23 PM

Welcome!

I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
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Reply #21 - November 07, 2010, 08:30 PM

Jinx!

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #22 - November 07, 2010, 08:34 PM

Welcome brother in kafirness.

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The second rule of CEMB is that you do NOT talk about CEMB.

The third rule is that you should ignore the above two rules, as well as the various Sunnah.

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Reply #23 - November 07, 2010, 09:04 PM

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Reply #24 - November 07, 2010, 09:32 PM

Quote from: Buttersnips on November 07, 2010, 07:18 PM
In addition to some household phrases in the Pakistani lexicon:

"Allah tumare daw'a kabool kare"
"Allah ke taruff se"
"Allah ke hathao me hein"
"Allah maaf kare"
"Allah jaan bachale"

My mom gets compulsive with this when speaking to relatives over the phone.

Lol, spot on! That's exactly what I was talking about. Its like you can't have a conversation in urdu with anyone without religious words being used one way or anothr

Thanks everyone for the welcomes!

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Reply #25 - November 08, 2010, 05:51 AM

Welcome to the forum, hope you enjoy your stay
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Reply #26 - November 08, 2010, 06:26 AM

Lovely 'SHUKHRIYA' becomes 'JAZAKALLAH'. I hate this abject surrender to Arabic hegemony.
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Reply #27 - November 08, 2010, 06:37 AM

Hey Donatelo! Nice to have you here. Welcome.

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Reply #28 - November 08, 2010, 09:36 AM

Quote from: hypocrucifier on November 08, 2010, 06:26 AM
Lovely 'SHUKHRIYA' becomes 'JAZAKALLAH'.

Same goes for the infiltration of Arabic dress in Pakistan. I was once reprimanded for saying "khuda-hafiz" because khuda was the name for Hindu god, and was corrected "Allah-hafiz"

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Reply #29 - November 08, 2010, 09:44 AM

Quote from: IsLame on November 08, 2010, 09:36 AM
Same goes for the infiltration of Arabic dress in Pakistan. I was once reprimanded for saying "khuda-hafiz" because khuda was the name for Hindu god, and was corrected "Allah-hafiz"

That is the absolut dumbest thing I have ever heard. It's a persian loanword for Khuda's Sake. Khuda means God in Persian. Wtf is wrong with people?!

Khuda Hafiz

Khuda Hafiz (Perso-Arabic: خُدا حافِظ, Devanāgarī: ख़ुदा हाफ़िज़ khudā hāfiz), usually shortened to Khodafez in Persian,is a parting phrase traditionally used by Persian, Kurdish, and South Asian Muslims. The locution is the most common parting phrase among both non-Muslims and Muslims in Afghanistan & Iran; it is also sometimes used by non-Muslims of the Indian Subcontinent, such as Hindus and Christians.

Meaning

It can be translated as "May God be your Guardian": Khuda, which is Persian for God (and also an Indo-European cognate of the English word God[citation needed]), and hāfiz from Arabic hifz "protection". The phrase is a loanword from Persian into the Kurdish, Punjabi, Urdu in Pakistan, Hindi in India, and Bengali languages.

Transliterations

Transliterations may also include Khudā Hāfiz, Khudā Hāfez, and Khodā Hāfiz, or Allah Hafiz. One would traditionally respond with replying Khudā Hāfiz or Allah Hafiz.

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