Skip navigation
Sidebar -

Advanced search options →

Welcome

Welcome to CEMB forum.
Please login or register. Did you miss your activation email?

Donations

Help keep the Forum going!
Click on Kitty to donate:

Kitty is lost

Recent Posts


What's happened to the fo...
Today at 09:20 AM

New Britain
Today at 08:07 AM

Qur'anic studies today
by zeca
Today at 07:55 AM

Kashmir endgame
Yesterday at 10:05 PM

Lights on the way
by akay
Yesterday at 09:23 AM

Do humans have needed kno...
October 02, 2025, 12:48 PM

اضواء على الطريق ....... ...
by akay
October 02, 2025, 12:03 PM

الحبيب من يشبه اكثر؟؟؟
by akay
September 24, 2025, 11:55 AM

Muslim grooming gangs sti...
September 20, 2025, 07:39 PM

Jesus mythicism
by zeca
September 13, 2025, 10:59 PM

Orientalism - Edward Said
by zeca
August 22, 2025, 07:41 AM

News From Syria
by zeca
August 09, 2025, 10:33 PM

Theme Changer

 Topic: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex

 (Read 43065 times)
  • Previous page 1 ... 6 7 89 10 Next page « Previous thread | Next thread »
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #210 - January 14, 2011, 10:24 PM

    Quote
    Afghanistan --100%; Saudi Arabia --100%; Somalia --100%; Yemen --99.9%
    Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start
    killing each other for a variety of reasons.


     Cheesy Cheesy



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #211 - January 14, 2011, 10:31 PM


    Thats more sad than funny.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #212 - January 14, 2011, 11:31 PM

    I was laughing at the way that was put.Yes the reality is sad.But there are a lot of people living in their custom made utopias who are in denial and don't see the truth.



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #213 - January 15, 2011, 02:01 AM

    I don't get the point about the perpetrators themselves taking alcohol and drugs themselves and how that is relevant.


    Well unless mullahs and desi parents tell them to take intoxicants and hang out with unrelated girls, I think its totally relevant in pointing out their crimes have fuck all to do with 'pakistani culture' (vast difference in culture amongst pakis) or Islam.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #214 - January 15, 2011, 10:01 AM

    Quote
    Well unless mullahs and desi parents tell them to take intoxicants and hang out with unrelated girls, I think its totally relevant in pointing out their crimes have fuck all to do with 'pakistani culture' (vast difference in culture amongst pakis) or Islam


    They can and do co-exist alongside each other. Read the thread its explained how.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #215 - January 15, 2011, 04:04 PM



    Quote
    Queasy stomachs on the Today programme as the BBC looks into multicultural Britain
     
    By Andrew M Brown Politics Last updated: January 14th, 2011

    Are young men of Pakistani origin really fizzing with testosterone, and do they target young white women for sex because they see them as easy meat, as Jack Straw claimed last week? The Today programme went to Bradford this morning to find out, and you got the distinct impression that no one was more shocked than the BBC to find young Asian men, by and large, confirming what Mr Straw said.

    A minority of interviewees sounded a note of caution, said everyone was equal and there was no such thing as an “easy target”. A more typical response, however, was: “It’s the way the white women dress, innit. Miniskirts. Encourages them, innit, to go jack ‘em and that, d’you get me?” (That’s an exact quote, by the way.) Or: “A lot of Asian women wouldn’t actually have their body showing, whereas white women you would find them like that.” Or: “White women drink, so when they [are] under the influence of alcohol the Pakistani men probably – the ones from Pakistan that have recently come – probably think they can take advantage, innit.”

    Zubeida Malik introduced her report by saying: “Given the huge controversy that Jack Straw’s comments raised, you might be surprised by what you hear.” But were listeners really shocked by what they heard? Over at the BBC they might have been surprised, but no one else the programme interviewed sounded as though the comments were news to them. In fact, just before the end of programme, at ten to nine, they brought on David Aaronovitch and Nihal from the BBC Asian Network. I’m afraid the show’s producers will have been disappointed if they hoped Aaronovitch and Nihal might offer an alternative reading of the situation.

    “What you have is a level of anecdotal evidence that something of this sort is going on,” Aaronovitch said. “It does seem that there is really something going on that people need to deal with.” Justin Webb struggled manfully to present a more innocent and less damaging case, proposing that, perhaps, some Asian men simply “fancied western women”.

    Then Nihal from the Asian Network came on and I can only imagine the hand-wringing among BBC multiculturalists when they heard what he had to say: “We did this story back in November and we asked the question whether there is something in the Pakistani culture that led men to do this. Many people called in my phone-in show and said: ‘Yes we know that this is happening. Our men have this attitude towards white girls.’ [On Monday] a caller said: ‘White girls are easy. Fact.’ That’s what he said and he was unapologetic about that. I told him it wasn’t fact it was an opinion.”

    Webb responded that that was very tough on young men of Pakistani origin. And he’s right, of course: it certainly is not good for respectable young Asian men. The fact is, though, that hardly anyone now denies that there is a real issue here and it has be faced. Perhaps only Keith Vaz is left insisting the whole thing’s an invention, and no one takes him seriously. As Nihal said: “Even Keith Vaz, chairman of the home affairs select committee, on my show this week said that he had never heard anybody say this, that white women were easy or promiscuous. I said to him: Well, why don’t you check out the iPlayer, because ten minutes before he came on my show someone had said that very thing!”

    “It’s certainly been well mentioned now,” Webb said, a bit testily, as he wound up the interview. Small wonder if he was inwardly peeved. Today the BBC took a good look at multicultural Britain – and they didn’t like what they saw.


    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewmcfbrown/100072016/queasy-stomachs-on-the-today-programme-as-the-bbc-looks-into-multi-cultural-britain/

    Good thing that it is no longer swept under the carpet, but out in the open now, even on BBC,so that something can be done about it.

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #216 - January 16, 2011, 02:30 PM

    Quote from: IsLame
    a) a large group


    How might being "a large group" predispose people to this sort offense? A large group of piranhas will tear a swimmer to pieces. A large group of minnows won't. There has to be more to this than being "a large group".

    Quote
    b) uneducated immigrants


    Uneducated in what? Shakespeare? Nuclear physics?

    Quote
    And I am yet to be convinced about the role of Islam here but perhaps could see a loose correlation.  This is because I wonder if gypsies, Romanians, Blacks, Polish immigrants in large enough numbers would have the same effect.


    If certain culturally transmitted attitudes widely prevailed amongst them that predisposed them to such behavior, they could. If Poles, for instance, generally believed that English girls were "sluts" whose mode of dress is an open invitation to sex with any man who wants it. That these attitudes would not be rooted in Islam does not, however, rule out Islam as the root cause for such behaviors among Muslim immigrant groups.  

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #217 - January 16, 2011, 02:55 PM

    As has already been pointed out, THIS PROBLEM IS INTERNATIONAL

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #218 - January 16, 2011, 03:16 PM

    All in favor of DH being raped by Pakistani thugs say "Aye"

    fuck you
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #219 - January 16, 2011, 03:19 PM

     Cheesy
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #220 - January 16, 2011, 03:20 PM

    As has already been pointed out, THIS PROBLEM IS INTERNATIONAL


    Why don't you start a separate poll on this?

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #221 - January 16, 2011, 03:23 PM

    Cheesy


    Q-man does not need to be forced.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #222 - January 16, 2011, 03:49 PM

    Quote, Far-right minorities: These guys will take anything and feed it to less well informed people to pursue unjustifiable means to irrational fear and hatred. Thus the likes of Arthur on this board will buy such rhetoric via confirmation bias. Sensationalism coming from the media is a catalyst for this.

    Thus the likes of Arthur!!!!
    Please don't speak on my behalf if you don't mind, I'm quite capable of talking on my own behalf.

    It seems to me that this problem has developed because no one had the bottle to stand up and expose it when it first appeared, mainly because of peoples fear that they would be labelled racist, which is precisely what is going on now.
    I've heard more rants against Jack Straw than I have about the animals that have been raping little girls.

    So society, with it's lefty liberal outlook thought it was worse to offend some people than it was to protect children, to the extent that it has been covered up for some 15 to 20 years.
    Just like the Catholic church covered up it's dreadful abuse of children, that does not mean that all Catholics are child abusers, just as this doesn't mean all muslim men are child abusers and I do think that this particular problem is something to do with the mindset of some muslims and Islam.

    So in effect the cover up is still going on with the stick of racism being used to stop this from being looked at, channel 4 did a docu about this problem and the police stopped it from being shown and this is my biggest concern, that nasty crimes are being brushed under the carpet and because of this children have suffered years and years of abuse. I think that this should be the concern of us all.

    Some one said where were the parents, well some of them took their concerns to the police and were brushed off, others were in care and their guardians were powerless to do anything, why is this?

    As for the idea that from now on all Pakistanis will be seen as rapists etc etc is a load of rubbish!

    The problem is now out in the open and people need to get their heads out of the sand and deal with it and do something that will protect vulnerable children from the perpetrators of this kind of crime.
    These were not adult women who can decide for themselves, these were girls as young as 11. whether or not white women are easy or not is beside the point because the victims were and are children.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #223 - January 16, 2011, 03:51 PM

    You advocate jailing people for advocating British republicanism-- why should anyone take you seriously about any political topic, arthur?

    fuck you
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #224 - January 16, 2011, 03:53 PM

    This is not about politics, this is about the crime of rape.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #225 - January 16, 2011, 03:54 PM

    I support a British Republic, a socialist republic that is  Smiley
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #226 - January 16, 2011, 03:56 PM

    This is not about politics,


    It's not? Are we not discussing the comments of a prominent MP? And if it has nothing to do with politics then why did you feel the need to mention "lefty liberal" in your post?

    fuck you
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #227 - January 16, 2011, 04:00 PM

    Socialism, communism has led to millions of deaths and misery, look at China, Russia, North Korea, just for starters.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #228 - January 16, 2011, 04:02 PM

    Wow, real original argument. You must have been reading the latest edition of "Brain-dead right wing debate tactics"

    Yeah, innocent wittle capitalism has never killed a soul.

    fuck you
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #229 - January 16, 2011, 04:09 PM

    Ok, I concede the point that I mentioned lefty liberals, but what I meant was the sort of society where it's an offence to offend someone because it is politically incorrect.

    I'm not right wing.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #230 - January 16, 2011, 04:37 PM

    Socialism, communism has led to millions of deaths and misery, look at China, Russia, North Korea, just for starters.


    Its led to plenty of happiness too, look at Sweden, Denmark, the NHS just for starters.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #231 - January 16, 2011, 05:02 PM

    It is not only a Pakistani thing, I mean can you even call it a problem? It's more of a lower-class social norm.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #232 - January 16, 2011, 05:11 PM

    Socialism looks good on paper, but when implemented is not practical. Penalizing the most productive of your community for being productive and giving that wealth to the less productive is a just stupid, since it demotivates individuals to be exceptionally productive, since a large chunk of the hard work they've put into it will be taken as tax to be given to the less productive, which eventually leads to it becoming an incentive not to be productive since the state will provide for you. Moreover Marxism is not even really for the working social class, the idea of Marxism was ironically for the intellectual elite, it has been hijacked be the uneducated masses, that is why it will never work in practice.

    All Hail Capitalism! 
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #233 - January 16, 2011, 05:23 PM

    It is not only a Pakistani thing, I mean can you even call it a problem? It's more of a lower-class social norm.


    Well yes, it is a problem, specially for the victims, altho I do agree that it's not a Pakistani thing, but I do think it's an Islamic one that's developed within a closed community.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #234 - January 16, 2011, 05:24 PM

    Socialism looks good on paper, but when implemented is not practical. Penalizing the most productive of your community for being productive and giving that wealth to the less productive is a just stupid, since it demotivates individuals to be exceptionally productive, since a large chunk of the hard work they've put into it will be taken as tax to be given to the less productive, which eventually leads to it becoming an incentive not to be productive since the state will provide for you. Moreover Marxism is not even really for the working social class, the idea of Marxism was ironically for the intellectual elite, it has been hijacked be the uneducated masses, that is why it will never work in practice.

    All Hail Capitalism! 


    Agree.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #235 - January 16, 2011, 05:35 PM

    Agree.


    This is exactly what Tony Blair's Labour Party did - a socialist party, it taxed the rich mainly the manufactures, and give this money to the lower-classes, in the form of child-tax credits, income support, job seekers, incapacity befit, and housing benefit. This eventually led to, an incentive for the lower-classes NOT to work, since the state would give them money for free. So it led to a situation where lower-classes produced more babies, and sat at home and did not do anything other then claim money from the government, in effect living off the most productive of society, this is why manufacturing moving outside of the country due to the large taxes the labour government placed on these organizations.

    I am so happy we have a conservative government in power, which looks after the middle and upper classes which actually create the jobs and provide wages for the working class. I was so happy that university fees went up, since I am going to university in September and the last thing I want is whiny labour supported, hopefully they'll not have enough money to go to university and will be working.   
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #236 - January 16, 2011, 05:45 PM

    I hate working class people too, Tut.  Smiley

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #237 - January 16, 2011, 05:52 PM

    Agree.


    Socialism is NOT wealth redistribution through taxation, Einstein. Socialism is about putting the means of production in the hands of the working class-- hardly something that benefits the unproductive, quite the opposite in fact.

    fuck you
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #238 - January 16, 2011, 05:53 PM

    http://thelinkpaper.ca/?p=3160
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #239 - January 16, 2011, 08:32 PM



    Lets not forget, Pakistanis and Indians are actually the same people. Just like the people in North Korea are the same as South Korea. Alot of this Pakistani men targeting Sikh and Hindu girls is mostly nonsense it is that Sikh and Hindu girls are somewhat more liberal then Muslim girls so are more likely to date. And also, they share a similar language same food, etc, they are practically the same. So the above is more of less propaganda.

    I have a Hindu female friend (we dated once) who said alot of it is due to the families fear of losing the girls, its like a way to scare them so they don't date Pakistani boys, but don't have a problem if a Hindu girls dates an Indian Muslim, which is quite common. I find that sometimes Hindu and Sikh communities for whatever reasons try to manipulate society into getting into Pakistani bashing. Just out of general political reasons back home in India and Pakistan. However, if you look deeper you will notice that even Pakistanis are separated among themselves.

    For example my family are British Pakistani Punjabis, who are generally alot more successful and of a middle-class and upper-middle calls. While majority of the really fucked up Pakistanis (we call them jungalis) "uncivilized" are largely from the Mirpuri community, and Kashmiri community.

    here read this article to get an understanding of what I am talking about:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pakistanis#Assimilating_into_British_society         
  • Previous page 1 ... 6 7 89 10 Next page « Previous thread | Next thread »