For the second time in two days, I've seen (online) two different muslim guys doing Dawah and they begin with a bag and put plastic and metal in it and start shaking. And say, if I shake this for million years, do you think this will become into a toy. They conclude with #atheistLogic
I find it very silly.
Now I know how to counter that but my knowledge might not be enough.
Counters please?
It is the Watchmaker fallacy in which one is clueless that an artificial constructed object, the toy, is not natural thus the comparison is flawed. A toy is not found in nature, ever. It also uses the idea that complexity requires a designer. However if something complex requires design than God to, being complex, requires a designer. Only by using special pleading a logical fallacy or theological sophistry, thus fallacious, is the point side stepped. However the argument fails anyways.
I seen that used, or they say, "If I had 26 blocks with the letters of the alphabet on each block, what chance would I have if I threw them onto the floor and they lined up in alphabetical order?"
Flawed comparison since the example is only of one person doing one act over and over. This does not account the possibility that such events could include more than a single participant. There could be trillions of worlds in which such an event is played out. Even within our world that could be billions of such events all over the planet. Taking into account that such an event is not merely a single participant add the billions of years to the possible trillions of events. Also the alphabet part of language thus a construct created by us. We give meaning to the symbols of ABC, these have no meaning in nature without us. These symbols do not exist is nature without us.
It really doesn't have to do with being an atheist. It's some creationist jargon that they use. They're trying to use the "The world is so beautiful and in order, that there must be a creator" argument.
It has to do with being told flawed arguments without their teaching mentioning the flawed then parroting the arguments like parrots that do not consider what they say.
There really isn't a counter if they're not willing to listen in the first place.
You can not convince someone not willing to even entertain the possibility their religion is wrong.
Topic: Creation in the Qur'an