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  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #30 - February 05, 2011, 05:51 PM
    Ah - thanks Lilyesque, you reminded me to look at a thesaurus!

    ----


    The CEMB commends Prime Minister David Cameron for his speech identifying the need for liberal values, including freedom of conscience and freedom of speech, to be central to any discussion about Britain's future as a tolerant and pluralistic society.

    We agree with the Prime Minister that policies of selecting and funding Islamic activists and organisations who perpetuate a narrative in accord with that of extremists, and who often are themselves advocates for Islamist ideology, is a disastrous and divisive policy.

    We believe that religious identity-politics that leverages state multiculturalism for its own selfish and separatist means has been catastrophic for the Muslim community and for the wider society leading to an atmosphere of mistrust and a lack of cohesion.

    We applaud the Prime Minister for his stance on this issue and urge him to further consider what the government can do to promote individual rights as opposed to the privileging the rights of groups in a post-ideological-multicultural British society.

    The Prime Minister’s call for the rejection of state multiculturalism, which results in the division of communities, is in accordance to the aims of the "One Law for All campaign" campaign.

    Finally, we request government to listen to a wide a range of individuals when formulating policies relating to integration and social cohesion. Included should be the voices of ex Muslims, who have experienced the marginalisation and coercive difficulties caused by permitting the collective rights and sentiments of religious groups over the freedom of individual conscience that is the inalienable right of every British citizen.
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  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #31 - February 05, 2011, 05:52 PM
    cool
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #32 - February 05, 2011, 08:29 PM
     

     I would say you got a pretty dam good press release there Smiley
    According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #33 - February 05, 2011, 08:56 PM
    HO

    Some editing suggestions from your last version:


    ----


    The Council of Ex Muslims of Britain commends Prime Minister David Cameron for his speech identifying the need for liberal values, including freedom of conscience and freedom of speech, to be central to any discussion about Britain's future as a tolerant and pluralistic society.

    We agree with the Prime Minister that policies of selecting and funding Islamic activists and organisations who perpetuate a narrative in accord with that of extremists, and who often are themselves advocates for Islamist ideology, is a disastrous and divisive policy.

    We believe that religious identity-politics that leverages state multiculturalism for its own selfish and separatist means has been catastrophic for the Muslim community and for wider society, leading to an atmosphere of mistrust and a lack of cohesion.

    We applaud the Prime Minister for his stance on this issue and urge him to further consider what the government can do to promote individual rights as opposed to the  privileging the sentiments  of activist groups in a post-ideological-multicultural British society. <------------ Delete first 'THE'

    The Prime Minister’s call for the rejection of state multiculturalism, which results in the division of communities, is in accordance to WITH the aims of the "One Law for All campaign" campaign.

    Finally, we request government to listen to as wide a range of individuals when formulating policies relating to integration and social cohesion. Included should be the voices of ex Muslims[/b[b]]<------------ sounds like Yoda LoL,

    Change to 'This should include the voices of ex Muslims...."

     who have experienced the marginalisation and coercive difficulties caused by permitting the collective rights and sentiments of religious groups over the freedom of individual conscience that is the inalienable right of every British citizen. <------------"privileging" not "permitting" the point is that the sentiments of groups has been privileged over that of individuals
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  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #34 - February 05, 2011, 10:30 PM
    True billy

    Thanks for all the effort guys
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #35 - February 05, 2011, 10:44 PM
    I haven't read through whole thread - been v. busy today - but please PM me final version and I will send it to Maryam immediately - I know she wants a press release on this  Afro
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #36 - February 05, 2011, 10:47 PM
    HighOctane will do it as soon as he completes the last edit.
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #37 - February 05, 2011, 10:53 PM
    last edit?  Do you mean the Hadith ??
    According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #38 - February 05, 2011, 10:53 PM
    Hows this? (I want to send it now)

    The Council of Ex Muslims of Britain commends Prime Minister David Cameron for his speech identifying the need for liberal values, including freedom of conscience and freedom of speech, to be central to any discussion about Britain's future as a tolerant and pluralistic society.

    We agree with the Prime Minister that policies of selecting and funding Islamic activists and organisations who perpetuate a narrative in accord with that of extremists, and who often are themselves advocates for Islamist ideology, is a disastrous and divisive policy.

    We believe that religious identity-politics that leverages state multiculturalism for its own selfish and separatist means has been catastrophic for the Muslim community and for wider society, leading to an atmosphere of mistrust and a lack of cohesion.

    We applaud the Prime Minister for his stance on this issue and urge him to further consider what the government can do to promote individual rights as opposed to  privileging the sentiments  of activist groups in a post-ideological-multicultural British society.

    The Prime Minister’s call for the rejection of state multiculturalism, which results in the division of communities, is in accordance with the aims of the "One Law for All campaign" campaign.

    Finally, we request government to listen to as wide a range of individuals when formulating policies relating to integration and social cohesion, including the voices of ex Muslims who have experienced the marginalisation and coercive difficulties caused by placing the sentiments of religious groups over the freedom of individual conscience that is the inalienable right of every British citizen.
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #39 - February 05, 2011, 10:53 PM
     Cheesy - I wish fairy tales about me were that popular love!
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #40 - February 05, 2011, 10:54 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 05, 2011, 10:53 PM
    Hows this? (I want to send it now)

    The Council of Ex Muslims of Britain commends Prime Minister David Cameron for his speech identifying the need for liberal values, including freedom of conscience and freedom of speech, to be central to any discussion about Britain's future as a tolerant and pluralistic society.

    We agree with the Prime Minister that policies of selecting and funding Islamic activists and organisations who perpetuate a narrative in accord with that of extremists, and who often are themselves advocates for Islamist ideology, is a disastrous and divisive policy.

    We believe that religious identity-politics that leverages state multiculturalism for its own selfish and separatist means has been catastrophic for the Muslim community and for wider society, leading to an atmosphere of mistrust and a lack of cohesion.

    We applaud the Prime Minister for his stance on this issue and urge him to further consider what the government can do to promote individual rights as opposed to  privileging the sentiments  of activist groups in a post-ideological-multicultural British society.

    The Prime Minister’s call for the rejection of state multiculturalism, which results in the division of communities, is in accordance with the aims of the "One Law for All campaign" campaign.

    Finally, we request government to listen to as wide a range of individuals when formulating policies relating to integration and social cohesion, including the voices of ex Muslims who have experienced the marginalisation and coercive difficulties caused by placing the collective rights and sentiments of religious groups over the freedom of individual conscience that is the inalienable right of every British citizen.


    Go ahead with it, please PM HighOctane to say it is done as well.

    Thankyou
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #41 - February 05, 2011, 10:58 PM
    I'd get rid of an unwieldy term like "post-ideological-multicultural British society."  I know what you mean, but it sounds like word salad.  Maybe replace it with something like "an already fragmented society", or "a society already experiencing problems with integration".
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #42 - February 05, 2011, 10:59 PM
    post-ideological?

    lold hard
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #43 - February 05, 2011, 11:02 PM
    Sorry bout that one, it sounded fine to me cos I took Ideologies last yr in Politics A-Level so I knew that word and am used to intense phrasing.
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #44 - February 05, 2011, 11:03 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 05, 2011, 10:58 PM
    I'd get rid of an unwieldy term like "post-ideological-multicultural British society."  I know what you mean, but it sounds like word salad.  Maybe replace it with something like "an already fragmented society", or "a society already experiencing problems with integration".


    Yeah, I agree actually.

    Either of those alternatives are good.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #45 - February 05, 2011, 11:03 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 05, 2011, 10:58 PM
    I'd get rid of an unwieldy term like "post-ideological-multicultural British society."  I know what you mean, but it sounds like word salad.  Maybe replace it with something like "an already fragmented society", or "a society already experiencing problems with integration".


    Done!

    Sent!
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #46 - February 05, 2011, 11:25 PM
    Just on the news there

    ' Some Muslim groups have reacted with anger accusing the prime minister of misunderstanding the situation'
    Labrokes have stopped taking bets on which groups these misunderstood guys belong to Roll Eyes
    According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #47 - February 05, 2011, 11:27 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 05, 2011, 11:03 PM
    Done!

    Sent!


    First press release everDone
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #48 - February 06, 2011, 12:35 AM
    It's sent? Ah okay np. Btw: repeated word: ... "One Law for All campaign" campaign.
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  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #49 - February 06, 2011, 10:10 AM
    Looks like I've missed the boat on this, but comments below in case it's still sitting some where waiting to go.

    We agree with the Prime Minister that policies of selecting and funding Islamic activists and organisations who perpetuate a narrative in accord with that of extremists, and who often are themselves advocates for Islamist ideology, is a disastrous and divisive policy. (should be "are disastrous and divisive." to avoid incorrect use of singular and repetition of "policy".)

    We believe that religious identity-politics that leverages state multiculturalism for its own selfish and separatist means has been catastrophic for the Muslim community and for wider society, leading to an atmosphere of mistrust and a lack of cohesion.

    We applaud the Prime Minister for his stance on this issue and urge him to further consider what the government can do to promote individual rights as opposed to  privileging the sentiments  of activist groups in a post-ideological-multicultural (I'm not sure this is suitable political jargon for a press release) British society.

    The Prime Minister’s call for the rejection of state multiculturalism, which results in the division of communities, is in accordance with the aims of the "One Law for All campaign" campaign. (repetition of "campaign")

    Finally, we request government to listen to as wide a range of individuals (this doesn't make sense, should be "as wide a range as possible) when formulating policies relating to integration and social cohesion, including the voices of ex Muslims who have experienced the marginalisation and coercive difficulties caused by placing the sentiments of religious groups over the freedom of individual conscience that is the inalienable right of every British citizen.(this last sentence is a little clunky and repeats parts of paragraph 3)

    Great job in getting this done ladies and gents but I think a more streamlined approach is required in future because, looking through the list of edits, this final version has errors in it that earlier versions did not. To be frank, some of the errors in the above make this look like a rushed, poorly thought out statement, which it most certainly wasn't. But anyhoo, good job on getting it out - maybe Maryam will proof read before sending.
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #50 - February 06, 2011, 10:53 AM
    Quote from: Lilyesque on February 05, 2011, 11:02 PM
    Sorry bout that one, it sounded fine to me cos I took Ideologies last yr in Politics A-Level so I knew that word and am used to intense phrasing.

    If you don't mind me asking - what exactly is 'post-ideological'?
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #51 - February 06, 2011, 12:52 PM
    Quote from: chris on February 06, 2011, 10:10 AM
    Great job in getting this done ladies and gents but I think a more streamlined approach is required in future because, looking through the list of edits, this final version has errors in it that earlier versions did not. To be frank, some of the errors in the above make this look like a rushed, poorly thought out statement, which it most certainly wasn't. But anyhoo, good job on getting it out - maybe Maryam will proof read before sending.


    Yes - we need a release schedule with timeliness and a single point of contact.

    Inputs - > First draft - > Final draft - > Sent to Maryam

    Hassan you may wish to inform Maryam of the errors in the sent text. Hope she doesn't think, "What a rushed job ...".

    Anyhow - it's the first one (instigated by Lilyesque Smiley ) so it will be smoother next time.
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  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #52 - February 06, 2011, 12:54 PM
    i sent an email with kenans to the email addy on the main website.

    Sorry bout the lack of organisation, i should have asked for recomemndations of what to mention written it sent it to HighOctane and then to Maryam. Better luck next time Lily!!
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #53 - February 06, 2011, 01:02 PM
    It's alright - it's a decent first release. Maryam will understand.
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  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #54 - February 06, 2011, 01:15 PM
    @lily

    I am not joking or anything. I lold at 'post-ideological' because the world we live in is anything but post-ideological. But since you took ideologies in politics as a part of your A-levels I was wondering if there is an angle to it I don't get and if you could explain it a bit.
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #55 - February 06, 2011, 01:24 PM
    I think in the UK it did get to a point of post-ideologism as all parties were some form of Liberalism now I think that Ideologies are coming back with the perceived threat of Islamic fascism, now this has become much more of a reality but this speech of Cameron is the first of large scale politicians actually saying anything about it.
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #56 - February 06, 2011, 06:43 PM
    I was asked to re-edit it and have just done so - this is what I re-sent:

    The Council of Ex Muslims of Britain takes note of the Prime Minister's speech identifying the need for liberal values, including freedom of conscience and freedom of speech, to be central to any discussion about Britain's future as a tolerant and pluralistic society.

    We agree that policies of selecting and funding Islamic activists and organisations who perpetuate a narrative in accord with that of extremists, and who often themselves advocate Islamist ideology, is a disastrous and divisive policy.

    We believe that religious identity-politics that uses state multiculturalism for its own selfish and separatist agenda has been catastrophic for the Muslim community and for wider society, leading to an atmosphere of mistrust and a lack of cohesion.

    We urge the Prime Minister to further consider what the government can do to promote individual rights as opposed to  privileging the sentiments of activist groups in a society already experiencing problems with integration.

    The rejection of state multiculturalism, which results in the division of communities, is in accordance with the aims of the "One Law for All campaign" campaign.

    Finally, we request government to listen to as wide a range of individuals when formulating policies relating to integration and social cohesion, including the voices of ex Muslims who have experienced the marginalisation and coercive difficulties caused by placing the collective rights and sentiments of religious groups over the freedom of individual conscience that is the inalienable right of every British citizen.
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #57 - February 06, 2011, 06:52 PM
    Brilliant

    Again sorry, I feel like I have failed in this attempt, I try harder next time.
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #58 - February 06, 2011, 06:54 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 06, 2011, 06:43 PM
    The rejection of state multiculturalism, which results in the division of communities, is in accordance with the aims of the "One Law for All campaign" campaign.

    You wrote "campaign" twice.  Apart from that, excellent.
    .
  • Re: David Cameron Multiculturalism speech Press Release CEMB
     Reply #59 - February 06, 2011, 06:55 PM
    Yep change that to "One Law for All" Campaign.
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