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  • Question: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
  • I strongly approve of him
  • I approve of him
  • Neutral/Not sure/
  • I disprove of him
  • I strongly disapprove of him

 Topic: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?

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  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #30 - February 13, 2011, 04:50 PM

    If neocon is a term of opprobrium, let Murray drop it from his self-promotion. I do not oppose the man’s credo simply because my ex-lover, a neoconservative, did not like to swallow, but from an intimate acquaintance with the dark vision of life it advances. Briefly put, the current holds to free market fundamentalism, authoritarian laws dismembering civil liberties under the guise of the War on Terror, and US militarism abroad. The leading exponents of the neoconservative creed like Bill Kristol and Norman Podhoretz have been ideological changeovers from Leninism who, failing to realise their Soviet dream, switched teams later and began whooping for the only remaining empire of the world. A move from one political monstrosity to another. Mistaken is the notion that I have only just begun taking up cudgels against these people. I disdained such types long before their apostasy.

    In sharp contrast to Douglas, Mehdi holds broadly Keynesian economic views on the post-recession deficit that align with the mission statement of the New Statesman. Politically, economically and intellectually he is a social democrat and to that extent is worthy of the imprimatur of NS. 

    I have one thing, and one thing only in common with Doug. But with Mehdi I concur on most political questions excepting Islam. That being the case, with whom should one align himself? Answer: Depends on your politics. If you like slashing public spending, truncating civil liberties, and bombing darkies abroad, Doug’s your man. If that prospect raises a quizzical eyebrow, give the Muslim a second look. But steady now my sweet, don’t flirt with him. He might be sent to heaven.



    I don't think it can be reduced to" slashing public spending, truncating civil liberties, and bombing darkies abroad, Doug’s your man". There is far more to it. The world is far more complicated. For a start, neoconservatism is about seeing things more through a lens of reality and what is consequentially the way forward.

    Btw, please could you write in more succinct, direct English, if you don't mind.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #31 - February 13, 2011, 04:52 PM

    I like what Mehdi said to his co-religionists over here...

    http://www.youtube.com/user/harrysplacevids#p/search/0/CUuhD3TysRc


    I do not like what Mehdi said to his co-religionists over here...

    http://www.youtube.com/user/harrysplacevids#p/search/2/__31LOVIR-M

    or here...

    http://www.youtube.com/user/harrysplacevids#p/search/5/APAPqT3QdFU


    These need linking on his wiki page.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #32 - February 13, 2011, 04:53 PM

    Don't forget this one too...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4hpfqFt-0Q&feature=related

    .
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #33 - February 13, 2011, 04:54 PM


    Oh please. Roll Eyes

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #34 - February 13, 2011, 04:54 PM



    Progressive Left my arse.





    clap The truth can be so liberating!






    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #35 - February 13, 2011, 04:58 PM

    Sorry, but I'm just LoL'ing again at Mehdi putting being a dog-lover and a music-lover on a par with being a killer and a paedophile in his speech about Yazid.

    We know where that comes from.  It's no secret that dogs and music are looked down upon in Islam.

    .
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #36 - February 13, 2011, 05:01 PM

    You know billy, I was thinking; sympathy depends from where you stand. Just holding any opinion depends where you stand. But the key with sympathy is it is far more subjective emotionally than other objective (and more tangible) opinions. Maths and science is more objective than law and economics. Law and economics are more objective than poetry and liking for things. Liking for things and general emotions are nearing to the subjective nature of emotions which include who you feel sympathy for. And let's not forget, human emotions however useful, are very susceptible to relativism and to toxic memes more than maths or science is due to their objective nature. Even objective things course is dependent on the eye of the beholder which too can be subjective ... and so on ... okay waffling now. I'll get my coat. Ciao. Grin
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #37 - February 13, 2011, 05:04 PM

    @Kenan

    Have you read my post to you in reply number six? Your rejoinder would suggest not.

    I did.

    Are you referring to this: "... I might judge that a man’s theological convictions should not obscure his wider political outlook."
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #38 - February 13, 2011, 05:07 PM

    Here is Mehdi Hasan defending himself in regards to those comments he made (taken from his blog in The New Statesman)...

    Breaking News: Muslim believes in Islam - http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/dissident-voice/2009/07/mehdi-hasan-career-life-news

    Who are you calling an Islamist? - http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/dissident-voice/2009/07/islamic-extremists-muslim

    It's all about context.... - http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/dissident-voice/2009/07/richard-herring-logan-context


    Make of it what you will...


    .
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #39 - February 13, 2011, 05:12 PM

    I don't think it can be reduced to" slashing public spending, truncating civil liberties, and bombing darkies abroad, Doug’s your man". There is far more to it. The world is far more complicated. For a start, neoconservatism is about seeing things more through a lens of reality and what is consequentially the way forward.

    Every movement claims a monopoly on reality. If there is a political current which espouses unreality, let me know. This is hopelessly vague stuff. Neoconservatism is a set of political and economic doctrines to which I alluded. They might be good or they might be bad, but let its vision be clearly understood.

    Now tell me: Hey hot pants, want a back rub?


  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #40 - February 13, 2011, 05:16 PM

    @Kenan

    Sure am.

    @Billy

    Try this thought experiment: You are the eminent Pope of the Church of Leftism. Hauled before you in the dock stand two offenders against the moral code. They must be excommunicated. An example must be set. In simple moral terms which man sins greater against the Left, a fellow that draws a facile equivalence between animal lovers and murderers or one that consistently backs genuine mass killers time and again?

    To the second class belong all the gang at Harry's Place. Doesn't make 'em any less progressive.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #41 - February 13, 2011, 05:20 PM

    @Kenan

    Sure am.

    As long as Mehdi doesn't mind his beloved Islam getting a nice critical examination or doesn't feel the need to impose his version of Islamic morality on anybody I am cool with him.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #42 - February 13, 2011, 05:21 PM

    Does his musketeer moustache make you want to mount him, MAB Huh?

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #43 - February 13, 2011, 05:33 PM

    w
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #44 - February 13, 2011, 05:38 PM

    When the guy takes off his shirt and roars, take off yours too.

    That's all I am asking for. I meant 'to mind' in the sense that effectively censors views that could potentially 'offend'.

    But steady, that pot belly's nothing to boast of.

    LIES!!!
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #45 - February 13, 2011, 08:34 PM

    Here is Mehdi Hasan defending himself in regards to those comments he made (taken from his blog in The New Statesman)...

    Breaking News: Muslim believes in Islam - http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/dissident-voice/2009/07/mehdi-hasan-career-life-news

    Who are you calling an Islamist? - http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/dissident-voice/2009/07/islamic-extremists-muslim

    It's all about context.... - http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/dissident-voice/2009/07/richard-herring-logan-context


    Make of it what you will...




    Cheers, will read these.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #46 - February 16, 2011, 10:53 AM

    Mehdi just tweeted this...

    Was supposed to be debating Geert Wilders on Islam in Eurpe on Al Jazeera on Friday. But just heard he's pulled out. Scaredy-cat!

    That would've been interesting to watch!

    .
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #47 - February 16, 2011, 11:11 AM


    It would have been a shit debate. Wilders makes outrageous statements about banning the Quran and has a complete lack of nuance or differentiation on the issues.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #48 - February 16, 2011, 11:21 AM

    By the way Shahid, do you have twitter? I don't use it, but if you do, could you ask Mehdi what was the difference between the rhetoric used in the Deobandi school in teh Dispatches documentary about kuffars having no intellect, and the speech he made about kuffar animals having no intelligence? He seems to reply to people on twitter.

    My guess is that he'll either ignore you, or grumble some defensive, aggrieved response.

    He mentions he used to work for Dispatches, but is concerened about their recent 'obsession' with Muslims.

    (I think thats 2 documentaries in 4 years on legitimate subjects for investigation - is that an obsession?)



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #49 - February 16, 2011, 11:24 AM

    That would've been interesting to watch!


    Yeah, it would be like watching two retards have a slap fight.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #50 - February 16, 2011, 11:28 AM

    I dislike him thoroughly because he says one thing in private and then in public not only says the opposite but claims we are all being paranoid for thinking people say stuff like that in private.

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #51 - February 16, 2011, 12:18 PM

    By the way Shahid, do you have twitter? I don't use it, but if you do, could you ask Mehdi what was the difference between the rhetoric used in the Deobandi school in teh Dispatches documentary about kuffars having no intellect, and the speech he made about kuffar animals having no intelligence? He seems to reply to people on  twitter.

    I will do that (I have to condense that question into 140 characters first...  wacko )

    I'm gonna create a separate 'apostate' account on twitter then I'll get stuck in.  At the moment I follow other people but don't tweet myself.  It's great for breaking news if you follow the right people associated with the issues you're interested in.  I suggest you sign up!

    .
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #52 - February 16, 2011, 01:40 PM

    I think I may well make an account myself Shahid. Let us know if Mehdi responds at all to the question when you get round to asking him. My money is on him ignoring / blocking you for asking.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #53 - February 16, 2011, 01:44 PM

    I dislike him thoroughly because he says one thing in private and then in public not only says the opposite but claims we are all being paranoid for thinking people say stuff like that in private.


    Its a slightly comical game with Mehdi and fellas like him, who say one thing to an audience of Muslims, and another thing to non Muslims. Even when their ideas are part of the public record, everyone pretends he hasn't said what he has said - out of a sense of not wanting to point to the Emperor's New Clothes, the Elephant in the room, or just out of a classic bourgeoise sense of British embarassment.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #54 - February 16, 2011, 09:02 PM

    That's all I am asking for. I meant 'to mind' in the sense that effectively censors views that could potentially 'offend'.

    Quit lying man. Nobody wants to censor you. How can they? When I am dictator, I will come down hard on the likes of you no doubt, but you've got nothin'  to worry about from this joker. Mehdi's more anxious about losing his own post as the NS political editor.

    The real problem of course is that you don't like being called mean names by the forest-chin. Who does? But you spend all the days of your life bashing his kind as brain dead pond lifes with the IQ of neolithic men. Sez me: Fair is fair. Strap on a pair. Hey, that rhymes.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #55 - February 16, 2011, 09:19 PM

    Mehdi Hasan isn't good looking enough to be as dumb as he is.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #56 - February 17, 2011, 04:56 PM

    @Ishina

    Is everyone with whom you disagree stupid? If so, what are you doing sleeping with a guy like me? Fascinating. I'm not convinced that Mehdi is on the low end of the bell curve. There is only so much neuronal power the brain can distribute among the multitude of questions life throws at us and his are applied chiefly to things outside theology. On questions of social policy he speaks discerningly and cogently. No waffling on his part. None of the imbecility which descends on him like a black cloak when Islam crops up.

    Happens to all of us. I may be the greatest philosopher since the world beginneth, but when I turn my focus to Israel all my formidable powers of analysis are set ascatter. Where angels fear to tread I go rushing in whooping for the Jewish state with loud hosannas. I sense vaguely that something is amiss, but despite many a bar room fight over it, I can never quite put my finger on it. Only so much brain power. Give the guy a break. I would def bum him.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #57 - February 21, 2011, 05:52 PM

    Is everyone with whom you disagree stupid?


    Some, yes, and Mehdi Hasan in particular. My eyes glaze over whenever he starts to talk. His stupidity is contagious. I feel stupider after having listened to him. He’s a non-entity. I don’t know why he is rated so much.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #58 - February 21, 2011, 06:20 PM

    @Ishina

    If Mehdi knocks off a few points of your IQ, does that mean you are stupider now than you were before you clicked on this thread? If you have suffered a lapse in judgement since then, can I ask to suck on your nipples again?

    I don't know by whom the guy is "overrated". Can you give names? Speaking personally, I don't think he is intelligent. But that is because I don't think many people are. I've been told that man is a rational animal, but try as I might I could find no evidence to support it. Who said that? The guy is no more or less defective than the commentariat. That's all.
  • Re: Mehdi Hassan ... do you approve of him?
     Reply #59 - February 21, 2011, 08:35 PM

    Speaking personally, I don't think he is intelligent. But that is because I don't think many people are.

    lol

    I've been told that man is a rational animal, but try as I might I could find no evidence to support it. Who said that?

    "It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this."  --  Bertrand Russell

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
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