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 Topic: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)

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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #60 - March 12, 2011, 12:06 AM
    Quote from: donatelo on March 11, 2011, 11:23 PM
    Nah bro, what I'm saying is, what's natural for different species is different, it might be natural for wolves to live in a society which is all about killing the weak, whereas its natural for ants to all work together and sacrifice themselves if needed. Is living like wolves actually natural for humans, or are humans more naturally inclined towards coexisting? That's what I'm asking.

    I see. My contention is simply that nature, whether human or otherwise, has ugly facets. Men are prone to aggression and superstition and racism and sexism and social hierarchy. What is natural tells us nothing about what is good. 
  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #61 - March 12, 2011, 12:12 AM
    Quote from: muddy on March 11, 2011, 11:46 PM
    Taking lives of humans and animals is wrong at every level.

    You don't believe that at all. You accept that a person may kill in self-defence, in war, in armed hostage situations, in assassinating genocidal tyrants bent on aggression or do you not? If you are a complete pacifist, let me know. If not, then the above sentence is plainly false.
  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #62 - March 12, 2011, 12:20 AM
    In self defense, you can avoid killing as much as possible. If you own a gun just for self defense, I would say own a teaser rather. If your to be murderer is in the kitchen, rather than using knife, use chilli pepper and throw it in his eyes.
    Wars should be thing of the past now.
    Death penalty to serial killers is like giving them easy way out. Keep them alive and torture them.
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #63 - March 12, 2011, 12:27 AM
    Quote from: muddy
    Its not only words. Its your sentence structure. I would rather skip what you said than give myself headache trying to process what you wrote in each sentence.
    But I think it is improved now. You didn't need to use words like egalitarianism, squabbling etc..

    I enjoy reading Mr. Mount Bison's posts. He has the ability to get his point across and be entertaining at the same time. His sentences are elaborate but he does make things clear.

    It is refreshing to read Bison's posts after reading the obnoxius posts written by high school boy called Q-Man.

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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #64 - March 12, 2011, 12:31 AM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on March 11, 2011, 11:37 PM
    @Prince

    I was infected with the vegetarian creed when my flame-haired Jewish babe handed me a copy of Peter Singer's Animal Liberation. I haven't always been faithful to my convictions, but I consider it the only morally tenable position a man can hold who's thought through the matter.


    I don't contend that, but giving up meat is... fricking hard.
  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #65 - March 12, 2011, 12:36 AM
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #66 - March 12, 2011, 12:39 AM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on March 12, 2011, 12:36 AM
    but even innocent civilians in the service of a greater cause.


    Hmm, not sure about that...
  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #67 - March 12, 2011, 12:43 AM
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #68 - March 12, 2011, 12:44 AM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on March 12, 2011, 12:36 AM
    We accept that there are times when it is appropriate not just to kill an aggressor, but even innocent civilians in the service of a greater cause.

    Not sure muddy accepts that.. Tongue
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #69 - March 12, 2011, 12:51 AM
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     Reply #70 - March 12, 2011, 12:59 AM
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #71 - March 12, 2011, 01:00 AM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on March 12, 2011, 12:51 AM
    Modern warfare inescapably claims civilians. To embark on any large scale military venture is to take that into consideration. Do you know how many civilians were killed in WW2? How about in Iraq? Afghanistan? Yugoslavia? If you can think of any major war that has not claimed thousands of civilians you can do something I cannot.


    That statement isn't enough to justify it. I expected more MAB. I am disappoint.

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    Of course it's hard. It was hard for me to stop raping Q-Man as well, but slowly but surely I weened myself off his flesh. Been clean for three weeks.

    Seriously though, I wasn't always faithful to the vegetarian diet either, but every morsel of flesh sat uneasily with my conscience. Proof yet again that man is driven primarily by emotion, by how things make him feel than the rational operations of his mind.


    So what is the remedy then, keep watching/reading about what goes on in farms until you can't stomach meat any longer?
  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #72 - March 12, 2011, 01:00 AM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on March 12, 2011, 12:59 AM
    Why don't you just leave Muddy to me Don? I have something special I want to show him, something meaty, hard and ten inches long. Can you guess what it is my sweet?

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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #73 - March 12, 2011, 01:25 AM
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #74 - March 12, 2011, 02:00 AM
    Quote from: Ram on March 12, 2011, 12:27 AM
    I enjoy reading Mr. Mount Bison's posts. He has the ability to get his point across and be entertaining at the same time. His sentences are elaborate but he does make things clear.

    It is refreshing to read Bison's posts after reading the obnoxius posts written by high school boy called Q-Man.




    Coming from someone who believes in Satan, I'll take your disdain as a compliment. Smiley
    fuck you
  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #75 - March 12, 2011, 03:31 AM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on March 12, 2011, 12:43 AM
    Speak not evil of my gay lover. Q-Man puts on this tough guy act but if you had ever mounted him like a bison, if you had felt his gorgeous lips wrap around your hairy nipple, you would know just what a gentle guy he is. A true romantic.

    Duly noted. But I am allergic to morons, matters not how "gentle" they are. But I am glad that you are able to make good use of him. But please remember that he needs to be disciplined and taught some manners.
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #76 - March 12, 2011, 03:33 AM
    Quote from: Q-Man on March 12, 2011, 02:00 AM
    Coming from someone who believes in Satan, I'll take your disdain as a compliment. Smiley

    I have no problem with that.
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    Entire World is One Family
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #77 - March 12, 2011, 10:40 AM
    Why would someone not eat meat? We can't process raw unprocessed (at least beaten) meat, but Humans and human ancestors have used Fire for milions of years. We became homo sapiens because our hominid ancestors started using fire and hand axes be4 a long long time ago.. So eating processed meat is as natural for a human as eating grass is for a cow..

    Domestic animals profit from us as much as we do from them... We keep their numbers inflated (secure their existence as beings) while we get food from them...  If we stopped eating meat altogether, millions of cows would die, billions of chickens would die from starvation or other predators.

    On the other hand what about tribes who inhabit the northern most parts of our world, whose existence is based on animals (homes, clothes, fire, meat, alcohol, milk etc etc)?

    If domestication of animals is a bad thing, than ask yourself why did the Cats domesticate themselves? They profited from it, as did all domesticated animals....

    these are my 2 cents about this topic, and i will never stop eating meat... Veggies are just spoiled, western emos who have no idea of the hardships of life...

    Good bye
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #78 - March 12, 2011, 11:28 AM
    Quote from: Bardhi_i_zi
    Why would someone not eat meat? We can't process raw unprocessed (at least beaten) meat, but Humans and human ancestors have used Fire for milions of years. We became homo sapiens because our hominid ancestors started using fire and hand axes be4 a long long time ago.. So eating processed meat is as natural for a human as eating grass is for a cow..


    True enough

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    Domestic animals profit from us as much as we do from them...


    Hmmm.....

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    We keep their numbers inflated


    Great comfort for an animal that has spent its short life in cramped unhygenic concentration camp conditions its fate sealed from the moment it was born with no chance to flee from or defend itself or its offspring against those intent on killing and eating them:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHMv48bpsQ

    I don't approve of the gratuitous killing of animals but at least the masai take on lions with hand weapons at serious risk to their own lives - unlike moronic gun freak "hunters" who kill at a distance and are responsible for driving large parts of the world's wild fauna to the verge of exinction and beyond.

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    If we stopped eating meat altogether, millions of cows would die


    If cows "dieing" is a justification to eat them then logically it is a justification to NOT eat them. Perhaps you mean that if we stopped eating meat domesticated cow varieties would DIE OUT. Did you?
     
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #79 - March 12, 2011, 11:40 AM
    Quote from: Ram on March 12, 2011, 03:31 AM
    Duly noted. But I am allergic to morons, matters not how "gentle" they are. But I am glad that you are able to make good use of him. But please remember that he needs to be disciplined and taught some manners.


    Stop embarrassing yourself like this. In other countries, this kind of public suckery is punishable by death.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #80 - March 12, 2011, 11:49 AM
    Quote from: muddy on March 11, 2011, 08:42 PM
    Ishina: I did not force you to stop eating meat.


    Correct.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #81 - March 12, 2011, 01:03 PM
    Do you eat fish muddy? Don't fish have feelings and families too?
    Is taking fish out of the water and letting them suffocate do death not inhumane?
    While we're talking about respecting animals and their emotions, why do you drink milk? Never occurred to you that a cow might find that offensive?

    I don't get all this nonsense about selecting a group of animals you don't wish to eat because they are living beings too, while not being consistent at all.
    <dust>: i love tea!!!
    <dust>: milky tea
    <three>: soooo gentle for my neck (from the inside)
    <dust>: mm
    <three>: it's definitely not called neck
    <dust>: lol
    <three>: what's the word i'm looking for
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #82 - March 12, 2011, 01:53 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on March 12, 2011, 11:40 AM
    Stop embarrassing yourself like this. In other countries, this kind of public suckery is punishable by death.

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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #83 - March 12, 2011, 01:59 PM
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #84 - March 12, 2011, 02:05 PM
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=L2pk
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #85 - March 12, 2011, 02:06 PM
    Quote
    a cow might find that offensive

    Ha.
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #86 - March 12, 2011, 02:13 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on March 12, 2011, 11:40 AM
    Stop embarrassing yourself like this. In other countries, this kind of public suckery is punishable by death.

     Cheesy That's classic..
    Quote from: three44 on March 12, 2011, 01:03 PM
    Do you eat fish muddy?

    Offcourse NOT. Where did you get the idea I would? You just made a comment like a Muslim. If you aren't Muslim, are you Hindu now?
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #87 - March 12, 2011, 02:16 PM
    Donelto, my friend, my brother, please stop abusing images.

    Thank you   Smiley
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #88 - March 12, 2011, 02:18 PM
    U ma.. ok, for this thread Smiley
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  • Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
     Reply #89 - March 12, 2011, 02:25 PM
    @muddy: that was an assumption as most vegetarians don't eat meat, but do eat fish.
    Are you a vegan then?
    <dust>: i love tea!!!
    <dust>: milky tea
    <three>: soooo gentle for my neck (from the inside)
    <dust>: mm
    <three>: it's definitely not called neck
    <dust>: lol
    <three>: what's the word i'm looking for
    <dust>: throat
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