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 Topic: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents

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  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #150 - October 09, 2011, 04:30 PM



    You know in the movies when the bad guy takes away the heroine's father when she was little and years later after seeking her revenge she get's captured and brought the the bad guy? She gets hauled in by two brawny guys and she asked a question " what did you do to my father??" and the bad guy says " We brought him in and he was begging for his life and we killed him showly,  hahahaa!! ahahahahahah! He begged us not to hurt you hahahahaha! "

    That was like watching the real life equivalent of that movie cliche.  

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #151 - October 09, 2011, 04:52 PM

    I could never even entertain the idea that my non-muslim parents, for whom I feel so much love, gratitude and respect, should be destined to roast eternally in hell. The idea is abhorrent, vile and frankly ridiculous. This, amongst others, was one of the reasons why I was never able to convert sincerely.


    That Indian Zakir JOKER is an idiot  of nth order to explain that confused  lady using some verses from Quran  and saying  "that her father will be in eternal hell as he died as Non-Muslim/Mushrik.".

    That Indian Joker preacher doesn't even understand that parents and fore fathers Porphet of Islam itself was Non-Muslims..

     
    Quote
    004.048 : Surely Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, and forgives what is besides that to whomsoever He pleases; and whoever associates anything with Allah, he devises indeed a great sin.

     004.116: Surely Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, and He forgives what is besides this to whom He pleases; and whoever associates anything with Allah, he indeed strays off into a remote error.


    This scoundrel fooling people by running his mouth non stop through some numbers of surh and verse and talk  nonsense  neither of those verses says " SIN OF SHIRK HE(allah)  WILL NEVER FORGIVE"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNv8HkthcDA

    The above words  he shouts in to microphone in the above video  are NOT there in those verses he mentions.  Hence that  SHIRK is No  Muslim and on top of it  he is in Muslim  clothes fooling people who never read Quran. Some one should beat him  up to pulp for that Blasphemy..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #152 - October 09, 2011, 05:01 PM


     Cry Cry
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #153 - October 09, 2011, 05:56 PM

    Maybe I'm a heartless bastard too, but that Irish revert looked a needy, hysterical bint to me.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #154 - October 09, 2011, 06:06 PM

    Maybe I'm a heartless bastard too, but that Irish revert looked a needy, hysterical bint to me.

    No..No. you are NOT  heartless bastard just because you are telling the fact., That lady in that tube was a needy and hysterical bint ., But you will become a heartless bastard  if you take advantage of such people..

    anyways... Hmm  Ethic vs. nonethic in oil — does it matter? ..ah ha!  this juice appears to  be a  dangerous juice from Canada..

    Ezra Levant.. Ezra Levant.,  Let me go through him in detail...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #155 - October 09, 2011, 06:12 PM

    Maybe I'm a heartless bastard too, but that Irish revert looked a needy, hysterical bint to me.


     Huh? I didn't expect this from you David!
    Doesn't the soil have any role to play with the growth of the tree?



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #156 - October 09, 2011, 06:29 PM

    Maybe I'm a heartless bastard too, but that Irish revert looked a needy, hysterical bint to me.


    I don't think she was hysterical. Dawah-gandists feed on the vulnerable.

    The idea that anyone should ever wish torment or pain on a parent, sibling, child or blood relative is the lowest perversion of the human spirit it is possible to do - yet dawah-gandists here perpetuate this and are satisfied with this perversion.

    She's trapped between her human instinct, and the sadism and vileness of what she has bought into and been brainwashed for.





    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #157 - October 09, 2011, 06:38 PM

    Poor woman.

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #158 - October 09, 2011, 06:54 PM

    She's trapped between her human instinct, and the sadism and vileness of what she has bought into and been brainwashed for.

    What I personally don't quite understand is why is she unable to break free from this completely pointless self inflicted agony?

    The pathology and inhumanity of mainstream Islam has been demonstrated to her in an extreme way. She clearly feels that there is a fundamental issue there, yet in this conflict between her instinctive humanity and the perversion of this particular brand of Islam it is Islam that wins.

    She could have chosen a non-literalist interpretation and could have completely discarded a retard like Mr. Fucker and his narrative and she could still have remained a Muslim.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #159 - October 09, 2011, 08:12 PM


    Why do abused women so often stay with their partners? Fear, conditioning, psychological diminution and lack of self worth......all of these things and more.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #160 - October 09, 2011, 08:46 PM

    Huh? I didn't expect this from you David!
    Doesn't the soil have any role to play with the growth of the tree?


    Good questiion for someone who works as a gardener.

    The soil is a factor, along with rainfall, temperature, exposure and the variable genetic strength of different plants of the same species.



    And I'm not quite sure where this is leading either...
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #161 - October 09, 2011, 09:07 PM

    I hope that poor lady apostates soon so she can simply grieve without the fucking bullshit that Islam puts on top.

    On top of grieving you're tormented with the inhumane idea that your loved ones will have burning oil poured down their throats for not accepting the the true religion of the the most-merciful.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #162 - October 09, 2011, 09:20 PM

    I simply couldn't watch it. As soon as he started to cry I hit pause. It's too much for an old cynic like me to bare. His tears are probably genuine but I feel sure that the words that were about to come out of his mouth would have been from somewhere else.

    "Happy happy, joy joy!" Stimpson J Cat.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #163 - October 09, 2011, 09:20 PM

    Oil? Isn't it boiling water?

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #164 - October 09, 2011, 09:26 PM

    Probably, I can't be bothered to research.  Wink

    How about bringing up this topic on the show?
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #165 - October 10, 2011, 06:13 PM

    Good questiion for someone who works as a gardener.

    The soil is a factor, along with rainfall, temperature, exposure and the variable genetic strength of different plants of the same species.



    And I'm not quite sure where this is leading either...


    rofl Great answer! Afro. It was metaphorical and I don't work professionally as a gardener either! Wink



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #166 - October 10, 2011, 07:25 PM

    Oil? Isn't it boiling water?


    The boiling water is poured over their heads :

    Quote
    [22.19] These are two adversaries who dispute about their Lord; then (as to) those who disbelieve, for them are cut out garments of fire, boiling water shall be poured over their heads.

    [22.20] With it shall be melted what is in their bellies and (their) skins as well.


    while they are given water like molten brass to drink :

    Quote
    [18.29] And say: The truth is from your Lord, so let him who please believe, and let him who please disbelieve; surely We have prepared for the iniquitous a fire, the curtains of which shall encompass them about; and if they cry for water, they shall be given water like molten brass which will scald their faces; evil the drink and ill the resting-place.


    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=simple&q1=18%2C29&size=First+100

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #167 - October 12, 2011, 07:02 PM

    Here's the full speech by Hamza that the initial video of this thread was taken from...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4-rRJhEhwQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fv-ndz1RMs

    .
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #168 - October 13, 2011, 10:45 PM

    obviously that's not the most important point but just wondering why Hamza is despairing over his non-muslim parents if it's only up to allah to judge who is going to hell/heaven? this is exactly what my Muslim friend told me as well ie. that muslims are not supposed to pass judgement about who is going to hell and who is not. besides, apparently allah's mercy exceeds his wrath... any thoughts on this?

    I think a lot of us were brought here by google. Verily google guides whom it wills!

  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #169 - October 14, 2011, 03:16 AM

    This video absolutely made me sick. The reason I left Islam was because of its teaching that people would be tortured in Hell for eternity. Its an atrocious and repulsive position to have by anyone. This guy actually made me sick ... he is out of his mind to think his parents, who are probably good people, deserve hell.

    youtube.com/user/orthodox786
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #170 - October 14, 2011, 04:46 AM

    This video absolutely made me sick. The reason I left Islam was because of its teaching that people would be tortured in Hell for eternity. Its an atrocious and repulsive position to have by anyone. This guy actually made me sick ... he is out of his mind to think his parents, who are probably good people, deserve hell.

    well if that video makes you sick  I am not sure what this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNv8HkthcDA

    will turn you in to  Qureshi and that is from Indian dr. Zakir Joker.. Master  Dawahgandist of late 20th century..

    well let me contrast that with this one..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGMqKCcN6A

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #171 - October 14, 2011, 09:59 AM

    On a side note, the hotel which was due to host IERA's latest event in Canada have now decided to cancel it.  Smiley

    Take-beer!   grin12

    http://www.thestar.com/iphone/news/article/1069557--muslim-conference-booted-from-hotel

    http://islamforhumanity.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/action-alert-sheraton-hotel-cancels-iera-conference/


    .
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #172 - October 14, 2011, 10:33 AM

    I don't think the hotel should have done that, it's not like iERA are going to be preaching hatred towards Jews.  If we permit this kind of thing then next thing you know the country club will be cancelling talks by atheists...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdr7zYAmpEk

    Although, I did find it amusing how the press release I received this morning immediately went on to blame Jews Smiley

    Quote
    The Sheraton Centre Toronto Hotel has taken the unprecedented step of cancelling the upcoming iERA Launch Conference in Toronto, Canada that was scheduled to take place on the 23rd October 2011.  Although the reason given was that a final payment was not made by iERA within a specified timeframe, the main reason for this rash decision would appear to be due to pressure brought to bear by the Jewish Defence League and LGBT activists.


    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #173 - October 14, 2011, 10:54 AM

    The hotel can do what it wants.  I wouldn't host IERA in my house, or in my business premises (not that I have one).

    .
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #174 - October 14, 2011, 10:57 AM

    Sure they can do what they want, up until the point where they form a legally binding contract and then they cannot.

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #175 - October 14, 2011, 12:02 PM

    Quote
    The hotel can do what it wants.  I wouldn't host IERA in my house, or in my business premises (not that I have one).

    Sure they can do what they want, up until the point where they form a legally binding contract and then they cannot.



    well here you go .. Create antiIslamiophobia e-mail

    Quote
    TEMPLATE EMAIL

    [START]

    Dear Sir / Madam,

    I would like to state my disappointment with the way the booking by the Islamic Education and Research Academy (iERA) for their international conference, Calling the World Back to Allah, scheduled for 23rd October has been cancelled. It appears that although the reason given for the cancellation is that the final payment was not made, it is emerging, however, that the real reason is due to pressure by the Toronto Star, and fringe groups such as the Jewish Defence League and LGBT groups.

    iERA is a mainstream Islamic organisation, and the speakers it was planning on hosting are also considered both mainstream and highly influential in the Muslim community, with them having the global support of hundreds of millions of Muslims like myself. The conference had nothing to do with homophobia or anti-semitism, and was simply talking about the universal values of Islam. I believe iERA clarified this in their press release as of the 13th October 2011.

    We cannot allow extremists, driven by political motivations to bully law abiding citizens who hold different ethical values.

    Quote
    I would therefore urge you to accept the payment that iERA has agreed to make and reinstate the conference as I do believe that if it is not reinstated this will create a very severe backlash against the global Sheraton brand.

    There are over a million Muslims in Canada and 1.5 billion Muslims globally who will refrain from using the Sheraton and brands of the Starwood Hotel Group.  Furthermore, I believe iERA should seek legal recourse if the matter is not resolved within 24 hours.


    I am hopeful you will reconsider your position and allow this peaceful conference to continue as planned for the betterment of the community in Canada.

    Best Regards,

    [NAME]

    [END]

    Well I wonder Idolaters, infidels, juice sue all those buggers who rain insults in to the loud speakers across the globe., off course they can add bit of Quran in to that legal notice against Islam..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #176 - October 14, 2011, 12:11 PM

    So who are these speakers??

    one of them is this guy..  Malaysian convert Hussain Yee
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrOfbTeve1Q

    other  is Hamza Andreas Tortoise ,  British convert,


    and our poster boy,  Abdur Raheem Green,  another British convert,


    and that  hate every one preacher Abdullah Hakim Quick, an African-American convert,


    So all these guys are CONVERTS and Inverts.. none of them born to Muslim parents..

    yes.. they should be sued.. their antisemitic, anti gay anti infidels hate is all over Utubes..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #177 - October 14, 2011, 01:39 PM

    'Lgbt extremists' - "don't kill us Bro."

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #178 - November 10, 2011, 04:19 AM

    your god doesn't have the right to call himself most merciful most kind.... their are a billion more people more kind and merciful than he is....


    and i ask you this why did that bastard according to quran create us in the first place.. did he ask me if i wanted to be created to worship him... NOPE

    so why should i be grateful .. if i didn't choose to be created in the first place

    to your god all mankiind are just pieces on the chessboard that god is playing with satan...

    he can dispose of them and feel no pity .. the bastard

    if i was adam and god asked me if i would want to take responsibility on earth with the threat of hellfire if i fail....

    i would've said HELL NO!!!

    emphasis on the hell part ....  in fact the fact that adam took the responsibility according to the quran... shows that he was a complete idiot... and because of him all mankind has to take the same responsibility ....

    I HATE ISLAM... i don't hate any religious dogma more than i hate islam
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #179 - November 10, 2011, 06:45 AM

    Sigh. Despite knowing that it's all retarded fairytale, it's sad to watch her to go through all that mental agony for nothing  Cry

    Religion sucks.
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