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Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
Reply #240 - December 21, 2011, 08:24 PM

No.

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Reply #241 - December 21, 2011, 08:24 PM

Abdul Green saint in Pakistan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1Hp-0D9jw

Why Abdul Raheem Green Came to Islam
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From Anthony Green To Abdur Raheem Green Story of Mr. Abdur Raheem Green

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Anthony green was a British born, but he got early education from Roman Catholic Monastic School called the Ample forth College in Egypt because of the job transfer of his father. He himself said that he was dissatisfied with the wrong Christian beliefs at the age of 8. During his childhood he realized that there must be Someone Who is Alone and Who could do everything.

The concept of trinity confused Anthony green very much, he was puzzled that how the God, Christ and the holy spirits can be the same. He says he was taught the rhymes such as Hail Marry and those rhymes were not satisfactory for him at all. He says that it was really difficult to believe that the God himself comes from the Womb of Marry, this makes Marry more superior.

Anthony green gave himself a thought process and the more he recited and explored Quran, the more he was inclined towards Islam. He was very satisfied with the concept of "Oneness of God', indeed there can't be two Gods.

He became Abdur Raheem Green after embracing Islam and started to preach Islam.

Web site on the thoughts of Abdur Raheem Green http://www.islamsgreen.org/

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Reply #242 - December 21, 2011, 08:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHlmcHmWVrY

I wonder about that beard and I wonder whether that fellow read Quran and what it says on beard and dress code for women or man??

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Reply #243 - December 21, 2011, 08:30 PM

Quote from: Ishina on December 21, 2011, 07:46 PM
It seemed you were on the brink of making a point about those who felt a measure of anger when they see the exploitation of the dying, but you lost your momentum when Shahid put you straight.

It seems I was wrong. You didn't actually have a point to begin with.

Put me straight? LOL, actually, your first post about this topic is probably the most ridiculous, stupid, absurd and less thought-out post in this whole thread....even worse than any of yeexeksszee's ..... and that takes some doing, so well done.
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Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
Reply #244 - December 21, 2011, 08:33 PM

The Demba:

There is a reason why people are pissed off. And that reason is that Abdu Rahman Green and his cult IERA are using the most vile and disgusting dawah-tactics out there to lure even people on their own death-bed and make a video. I dont see why you are getting all fired up about it?

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Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
Reply #245 - December 21, 2011, 08:37 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on December 21, 2011, 07:51 PM
I know.. I am man.. not boy neither a gay off course I am silly and clueless Demba..

So your point is that fellow the green white Islamic saint cares about his father so he forces that Shahada on his dad who is on death bed.,

So you think, the idea of beyond that Green white Muslim son asking his dad to take Shahada on his death bed is because he is thinking sincerely about his father going to Jannah after his death?/

Could it also be a good propaganda for this green white Islamic convert to go and say around Islamic world and get bit more fame and money around Islamic nations??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1Hp-0D9jw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQkEOLv0QOk

There he is preaching in Pakistan...

You and your none sense. Once again, I'm going to ask you, how do you know he was FORCED to convert?

Stick to facts and not ignorant assumptions.

Actually, don't bother replying, there's no point wasting my time on you. We only live once....
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Reply #246 - December 21, 2011, 08:39 PM

Quote from: Al-Ma`arri on December 21, 2011, 08:33 PM
The Demba:

There is a reason why people are pissed off. And that reason is that Abdu Rahman Green and his cult IERA are using the most vile and disgusting dawah-tactics out there to lure even people on their own death-bed and make a video. I dont see why you are getting all fired up about it?

I have already stated that he should be lambasted for making it public.
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Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
Reply #247 - December 21, 2011, 09:02 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 08:37 PM
You and your none sense. Once again, I'm going to ask you, how do you know he was FORCED to convert?

Stick to facts and not ignorant assumptions.

Actually, don't bother replying, there's no point wasting my time on you. We only live once....

2nd time I am reading that from you, nonsense is One word Demba..

It is OK, you seem not to understand the meaning of " Emotional Blackmail"

That is true., right now, no point of wasting time. Please continue to read and write . By chance if you get grounded for some time here Go there I can also read you there..

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Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
Reply #248 - December 21, 2011, 09:14 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 08:30 PM
LOL, actually, your first post about this topic is probably the most ridiculous, stupid, absurd and less thought-out post in this whole thread....even worse than any of yeexeksszee's ..... and that takes some doing, so well done.

And I've read more noteworthy insight written by a pack of rampaging nursery kids wielding magic markers for fucking swords than from your entire string of posts so far on this forum. Good job, bro.

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Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
Reply #249 - December 21, 2011, 09:49 PM

OK, let's see what you typed about this then shall we -

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Exploiting the dying. His own father too. That's just about as low as anyone can go. I sincerely hope he lives to realise what a terrible thing he's done. Assuming he even has any moral fibre left within him and that his religion has not ploughed out his conscience completely.

Wow, a work of a sheer genius! A well thought out opinion there, I'm sure it took you a long hard think to come-up with that. I hope it didn't hurt your head.

Please, someone give him a fucking lollipop. Bravo, pal!
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Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
Reply #250 - December 21, 2011, 10:08 PM

Yeah, that's the second time you've said it's stupid, and you've failed yet again to let the folks at home know why. I'm always unimpressed when someone tells me I am wrong or stupid, but fails to show a single point on which I am mistaken. There are only so many times you get to do that before I conclude that you are in fact a moron out of your depth and flailing wildly.

Also, it's her.

Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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Reply #251 - December 21, 2011, 10:48 PM

Quote from: Ishina on December 21, 2011, 07:03 PM
Charming.

I did genuinely attempt to navigate your blundering, head-first, thick-as-pig-shit, nerd-testosterone tirades, but couldn't find anything resembling an actual point.

Could you just briefly outline it please?

ROFL, +1000! Jester of the Month.
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Reply #252 - December 21, 2011, 11:06 PM

Quote from: Ishina on December 21, 2011, 10:08 PM
Yeah, that's the second time you've said it's stupid, and you've failed yet again to let the folks at home know why. I'm always unimpressed when someone tells me I am wrong or stupid, but fails to show a single point on which I am mistaken. There are only so many times you get to do that before I conclude that you are in fact a moron out of your depth and flailing wildly.

Do I really need to explain why it was such a daft comment to make? I mean come on .... "That's just about as low as anyone can go"? Really? I can name hundreds of other worse things than that. Also, how was he exactly "exploited"? What exactly is the "terrible" thing that he did? The conversion or the release of the clip?

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Also, it's her.

Wow, not really flattering being mistaken for a dumb bloke, is it? Maybe you ought to change something.
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Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
Reply #253 - December 21, 2011, 11:55 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 11:06 PM
"That's just about as low as anyone can go"? Really? I can name hundreds of other worse things than that.

Indeed. Though, we do not have any footage of the shocking and gruesome act of bestiality and animal cruelty that was your conception.

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 11:06 PM
Also, how was he exactly "exploited"?

Ooooh, that's a tough question. Maybe it was because his last dying moment has been plastered on YouTube as dawaganda. Maybe it was because it was extracted out of him during a barely lucid state, his lowest ebb, most likely on a cocktail of drugs, by morally bankrupt ghouls and vultures to that end.

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 11:06 PM
What exactly is the "terrible" thing that he did?

Exploiting his dying father. Just because you're too undeveloped and too socially myopic to understand what's going on doesn't mean others cannot.

Quote from: The Demba on December 21, 2011, 11:06 PM
Wow, not really flattering being mistaken for a dumb bloke, is it?

You'll never be mistaken for a bloke so don't worry about it.

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Reply #254 - December 22, 2011, 11:39 AM

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Indeed. Though, we do not have any footage of the shocking and gruesome act of bestiality and animal cruelty that was your conception.

Yeah, that's a really good answer refuting my argument. Well done, have another lollipop.

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Ooooh, that's a tough question. Maybe it was because his last dying moment has been plastered on YouTube as dawaganda. Maybe it was because it was extracted out of him during a barely lucid state, his lowest ebb, most likely on a cocktail of drugs, by morally bankrupt ghouls and vultures to that end.

As I previously stated, I condone his decision to make it public. How many times do I have to repeat it to the thickos like you?

And you sure know how to make it sound dramatic.

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Exploiting his dying father. Just because you're too undeveloped and too socially myopic to understand what's going on doesn't mean others cannot.

Wow, another super answer refuting my argument! Well done, this time you deserve a medal!

The fact is, and notice that I'm using FACTS here and not ignorant assumptions, Green has been persuading his father to convert for years and years before his death......so of course he was going to continue to to convert him on his death bed! Why would he stop now?

I would understand him being "exploited" if Green wasn't persuading him to convert for x years before he tried it on his death bed, but we know that's not true.

Do you think he was forced? Do you think the Shahada was rammed down this throat? In that case, tell me something...

....do you know Green Snr's thoughts about this? Were you there when he was "exploited"? Was he uncomfortable with his son's insistence to convert? After he converted, he lived on for 10 more days, did Green Snr have second thoughts about his conversion? Did he express any concerns? Was he FORCED to utter the Shahada? Go on, answer the questions with facts, not some ignorant crap that you and your friends have come up with so far.

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You'll never be mistaken for a bloke so don't worry about it.

Good one again. You're thick and ignorant as shit, you really are.
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Reply #255 - December 22, 2011, 12:03 PM

LOL, "Pakistan was a country put there by the British" They would have just left and watched from the sidelines if Mohammed Ali Jinna didn't scream and shout for a Muslim state for the Muslims of India. The other funny thing is Mohammed Ali Jinna actually enjoyed his whiskey, girlfriends and nearly every other thing Islam says isn't allowed. London actually didn't even want to split India in to two countries (later 3). If he wants to blame people he should blame Jinna, and not the British.

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Reply #256 - December 22, 2011, 12:58 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 22, 2011, 11:39 AM
.............lollipop.

As I previously stated, I condone his decision to make it public. How many times do I have to repeat it to the thickos like you?

..................

Good one again. You're thick and ignorant as shit, you really are.

Hi Demba... "condone" means to disregard or to overlook or to give tacit approval or to pardon or to forgive ..etc...etc.. which one did you mean Demba...

Forgiving some one who did harm to you is a good gesture..

You are a fascinating guy...

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Reply #257 - December 22, 2011, 01:01 PM

Quote from: Moham Ali on December 22, 2011, 12:03 PM
LOL, "Pakistan was a country put there by the British" They would have just left and watched from the sidelines if Mohammed Ali Jinna didn't scream and shout for a Muslim state for the Muslims of India. The other funny thing is Mohammed Ali Jinna actually enjoyed his whiskey, girlfriends and nearly every other thing Islam says isn't allowed. London actually didn't even want to split India in to two countries (later 3). If he wants to blame people he should blame Jinna, and not the British.

are you from Pakistan dear Moham Ali??

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Reply #258 - December 22, 2011, 01:02 PM

@Demba: Dude, come on, need to be insulting and disrespectful here, i thought you are better than this.

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Reply #259 - December 22, 2011, 01:07 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on December 22, 2011, 12:58 PM
Hi Demba... "condone" means to disregard or to overlook or to give tacit approval or to pardon or to forgive ..etc...etc.. which one did you mean Demba...

Forgiving some one who did harm to you is a good gesture..

You are a fascinating guy...

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Obviously I meant to type "condemn".
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Reply #260 - December 22, 2011, 01:08 PM

Quote from: Naija Infidel on December 22, 2011, 01:02 PM
@Demba: Dude, come on, need to be insulting and disrespectful here, i thought you are better than this.

If I'm responding aggressively, then it is because of the obnoxious replies. I too have been insulted in the past couple of days, but it seems that those moderators are only interested in warning me, and not anyone else.
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Reply #261 - December 22, 2011, 01:14 PM

Yes i can understand that but sometimes you gotta learn to see the other side of the coin and to be fair they have point too plus insulting Shahid Raza for overusage of adjectives in his statements is uncalled-for.

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Reply #262 - December 22, 2011, 01:18 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 22, 2011, 01:07 PM
Obviously I meant to type "condemn".

Oh..I see., .. Yes.. I too do lot of such Obvious mistakes . Then I will take back what I said

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Forgiving some one who did harm to you is a good gesture..

So you don't forgive that Rascal for making that Video Public. Correct me if I am wrong Demba..

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Reply #263 - December 22, 2011, 01:19 PM

Demba, you received a smite for telling Ishina to set fire to herself. Comments inciting people to kill themselves or cause physical harm are not acceptable here. We have a zero tolerance attitude to that.

This thread is going nowhere, and the smite that was administered has not cooled the temperature. If it doesn't change, the thread will be locked.

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Reply #264 - December 22, 2011, 01:23 PM

Quote from: Naija Infidel on December 22, 2011, 01:14 PM
Yes i can understand that but sometimes you gotta learn to see the other side of the coin and to be fair they have point too plus insulting Shahid Raza for overusage of adjectives in his statements is uncalled-for.

Erm, I believe he's one that started throwing the insults by asking me "you're not the sharpest tool in the box, are you?" . In fact, forget the insults, simply the obnoxiousness of this discussion started by him by needlessly rolling his eyes at me.
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Reply #265 - December 22, 2011, 01:28 PM

It's amazing how much unnecessary drivel you can throw at your opponent when you begin your rebuke with a strawman.

Not once has Ishina used the word "force" or "forced" or any word to that effect, but that didn't stop you, The Demba, from erecting this strawman...

Quote from: The Demba on December 22, 2011, 11:39 AM
Do you think he was forced? Do you think the Shahada was rammed down this throat?

from which you went on to regurgitate this twaddle...

Quote from: The Demba on December 22, 2011, 11:39 AM
In that case, tell me something...

....do you know Green Snr's thoughts about this? Were you there when he was "exploited"? Was he uncomfortable with his son's insistence to convert? After he converted, he lived on for 10 more days, did Green Snr have second thoughts about his conversion? Did he express any concerns? Was he FORCED to utter the Shahada? Go on, answer the questions with facts, not some ignorant crap that you and your friends have come up with so far.

Good one again. You're thick and ignorant as shit, you really are.

And that's just one example of many. Btw, being "forced" and "exploited" are two different things so don't try that one. The word "exploit" is apt.

Cut out the strawman arguments, the irrelevant nonsense that stems from them, the personal attacks... then maybe responding to your posts wouldn't feel like sifting through pig shit.

PS, this is all the time I have for you right now, I'll respond to your other stuff in my own time, so don't accuse me of "failing" to respond to you.

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Reply #266 - December 22, 2011, 01:30 PM

Quote from: The Demba on December 22, 2011, 01:23 PM
Erm, I believe he's one that started throwing the insults by asking me "you're not the sharpest tool in the box, are you?" . In fact, forget the insults, simply the obnoxiousness of this discussion started by him by needlessly rolling his eyes at me.

Yes.. that is true "rolling eyes" is a terrible insult In fact all those emoticons are obnoxious ..

Any ways I said this before to you.. Guys like me very much obsessed with fellows like you.. It is a disease ..mental disease.. So if CEMB Mods cuts you off (some time they do it for cooling the heels of some members)please join here I will make sure mods there will not throw you out for whatever you write. I always like fellow like you who just came out of questioning Islam or for that matter any religion..

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Reply #267 - December 22, 2011, 01:31 PM

No @yeezevee I am born to Libyan and Palestinian parents (my father is from Palestine and my mother is from Libya).

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Reply #268 - December 22, 2011, 01:31 PM

Quote from: billy on December 22, 2011, 01:19 PM
Demba, you received a smite for telling Ishina to set fire to herself. Comments inciting people to kill themselves or cause physical harm are not acceptable here. We have a zero tolerance attitude to that.

This thread is going nowhere, and the smite that was administered has not cooled the temperature. If it doesn't change, the thread will be locked.

Yes, Mr.Moderator, and you conveniently failed to mention that this was my reply to this post by Ishina -

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Charming.

I did genuinely attempt to navigate your blundering, head-first, thick-as-pig-shit, nerd-testosterone tyrades, but couldn't find anything resembling an actual point.

Could you just breifly outline it please?

If that was me saying that, I'd probably get a warning to stop insulting people, wouldn't I?
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Reply #269 - December 22, 2011, 01:33 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on December 22, 2011, 01:30 PM
Yes.. that is true "rolling eyes" is a terrible insult In fact all those emoticons are obnoxious ..

Any ways I said this before to you.. Guys like me very much obsessed fellows like you.. It is a disease ..mental disease.. So if CEMB Mods cuts you off (some time they do it for cooling the heels of some members)please join here I will make sure mods there will not do for whatever you write. I will always like fellow like you who just came out of questioning Islam for that matter any religion..

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I didn't say that it was an insult. Read my post again. It is simply a form of obnoxiousness.

Get it?!
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