No need for personal b.s. You responded out of choice, I think I made a valid point.
When you mentioned his father getting peace out of this whole incident, I did correct you on that. It’s not his father, but it is Abdur who is trying to get peace out of this.
Something unknown is simply the unknown. We simply don't know. End of. His father is dead, and it gives peace to Abdur that his father did some incantation before his death, and Abdur can sleep peacefully at night thinking his father is in a 'better place' so it had some benefit.
Yes I know that. We’re not disagreeing with each other here. I know his father is dead, and I know Abdur’s warped disturbed mind was trying to get some peace out of this.
Something Maybe have you ever entertained this crazy ass idea, that the whole reason why religion exists is because it appeals to some innate trait in some? Abdur himself is a victim to Islam. Everything is not in black and white you have to look at things from a different perspective.
Again, I agree with you there. That doesn’t negate anything I said.
That was not an appeal to emotion that as an analogy, another example can be a mother dying from cancer, and the family praying and doing some pointless incantation to resolve some psychological conflict. It gives them a peace of mind, its a well documented fact, try reading some Evolutionary Psychology Of Religion.
Your carcrash scenario (no pun) really was a bad analogy, and the scenario really did appeal to emotion, and there was little similarities between your carcrash scenario and what we’re discussing here.
As for your example of a family doing pointless incantation to their mother dying from cancer... the family can do whatever pointless incantations they want, but you can only relate your example with what’s happening here IF the family were trying to make their dying, extremely ill, lucid mother convert to an ideology. Your example doesn’t contain that vital bit.
So that was another silly example.
Well filming it was, assholish like I said. Even if his father didn't believe in Islam, maybe you should try to entertain another crazy idea I am going to throw out for you. Imagine, you're dying and are on your death bed it is the last moment and you know it, your daughter is a Muslim and she is pleading with you to re-convert to Islam, since the REALLY believes you will burn in hell forever, would you not just do a conversion (which is pointless and has no meaning to you) to give some peace of mind to your daughter? As a human being, I can tell you in such as situation I wouldn't put past doing something so pathetic just to alleviate the pain of someone.
If I was the person dying and my family were pestering me to reconvert to Islam then irrespective of what I’d actually do or say in that situation... it doesn’t change the fact that I think a belief system which, when inculcated into someones mind, makes them want to do that to me because they fear I’d burn in hell is sick, twisted, and disturbing, and all sorts of other words I can’t think of right now.
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