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 Topic: Atheist Censorship

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  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #210 - April 16, 2011, 11:21 PM

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     Reply #211 - April 16, 2011, 11:27 PM

    Are you going to continue to refer to him as that?

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #212 - April 16, 2011, 11:29 PM

    yeah , I'm also disturbed . Like any other human being he doesn't deserve to be called 'cancer man' .

    "its fashionable to be an ex Muslim these days"
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #213 - April 16, 2011, 11:35 PM

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     Reply #214 - April 16, 2011, 11:42 PM

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     Reply #215 - April 16, 2011, 11:44 PM

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  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #216 - April 16, 2011, 11:49 PM

    Well, I can’t stop you being a loathsome cheap shot piece of shit. I can only erase you from my own forum experience.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #217 - April 16, 2011, 11:55 PM

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  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #218 - April 16, 2011, 11:58 PM

    yawn, MAB.

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #219 - April 17, 2011, 12:03 AM

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  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #220 - April 17, 2011, 12:05 AM

    Were you likewise robbed of sleep when he was dancing on the freshly laid grave of Edward Said? Falwell? Mother Therasa? Or is this a newly evolved sensibility?




    Dunno what he said about Said, Falwell fully fucking deserved it after all the graves he danced on, and Hitchens only ever started being polite about Mother Teresa after she died.  When she was alive he dug into her, but after she died and it was revealed that she had expressed all kinds of private doubts about her faith, he was more sympathetic.

    Besides, your whataboutery is not very convincing.  Show some moral standards of your own, or at least learn the difference between black humour and being just plain crass.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #221 - April 17, 2011, 12:05 AM

    I thought we went over this.  I am not nor was I Catholic.  Jesus Fucking Christ.

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #222 - April 17, 2011, 12:08 AM

    Personally I don't mind people calling Hitchens Cancer Man.  He himself said that his condition is exactly what one would expect if one lived the life he did and he takes no umbrage to those who disparage him because it says more about those offering the pejorative terms or ill wishes than it does about the object.  

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #223 - April 17, 2011, 12:09 AM

    Yes, it does indeed say more about the people using the term than it does about Hitchens. 

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #224 - April 17, 2011, 12:12 AM

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  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #225 - April 17, 2011, 12:14 AM

    Why should Dawkins debate on a theological subjects? that is not even his area! Why doesn't Lane debate Dawkins on evolution for example? Moreover aside from doing interviews for educational reasons Dawkins does not need to 'debate' this faithhead apologetic and give him credence.


    Dawkins set himself up for a discussion on theological lines with his own foray into the subject. Nobody forced him to talk about theology but now that he has I think zeb is right that his naive and strawman arguments are shown for what they are.

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #226 - April 17, 2011, 12:19 AM

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  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #227 - April 17, 2011, 12:21 AM

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    Your scatalogical fixation (ass hole, bull shit) would strongly suggest a man who trafficks in the excremental. Very Puzzling . Why?


    You are projecting. 

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #228 - April 17, 2011, 12:22 AM

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     Reply #229 - April 17, 2011, 12:23 AM

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  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #230 - April 17, 2011, 12:27 AM

    To your mind which of the Dawk's arguments are sub-par? Speaking personally, it's not his arguments I quarrel with. Something else.


    This is from the God Delusion:

    "The temptation [to attribute the appearance of a design to actual design itself] is a false one, because the designer hypothesis immediately raises the larger problem of who designed the designer. The whole problem we started out with was the problem of explaining statistical improbability. It is obviously no solution to postulate something even more improbable."

    That's the kind of argument that would be laughed out of a theology 101 class.

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #231 - April 17, 2011, 12:34 AM

    Very well, I invite those who believe that to repudiate the opprobrium Hitchens heaped on Edward Said and the others. If it is crass to dole out the same treatment to Hitchens as he routinely does to others then why the fuss over a crass vulgarian?

    Excerpts from Christopher Hitchens’ Valediction for Edward Said:

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    The loss of Professor Edward Said, after an arduous battle with demoralizing illness that he bore very bravely, will be unbearable for his family, insupportable to his immense circle of friends, upsetting to a vast periphery of admirers and readers who one might almost term his diaspora, and depressing to all those who continue hoping for a decent agreement in his birthplace of Jerusalem.

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    To see and hear him play the piano was to be filled with envy as well as joy: One was witnessing a rather angst-prone person who had developed the perfect recreation to an extraordinary pitch. To ask him for a tutorial and a reading list, as I more than once did, was to be humbled by the sheer reach of his erudition. I can still hear the doors that opened in my mind as he explicated George Eliot's rather recondite Daniel Deronda.

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    On one occasion in New York, after giving us a tremendous tour of the Metropolitan Museum during its show on the art of Andalusia (and filling out the most exquisite details on the syntheses and paradoxes of Islamic, Moorish, and Jewish Spain), he took my own wife on a tour of the shops to advise her expertly on the best replacement for a mislaid purse. I never met a woman who did not admire him, and I never knew him to be anything but gallant. As I look back, I am inclined to be overcome at the number of such occasions, where his bearing and address were so exemplary and his companionship such a privilege.

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    I was astonished, when reading his memoirs, to learn that such a polished and poised fellow had never lost the sense that he was awkward and clumsy. And yet this man of enviable manners could be both those things when he chose.

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    Perhaps then I can do a last service, and also dip a flag in salute to a fine man,



    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #232 - April 17, 2011, 12:36 AM

    This is from the God Delusion:

    "The temptation [to attribute the appearance of a design to actual design itself] is a false one, because the designer hypothesis immediately raises the larger problem of who designed the designer. The whole problem we started out with was the problem of explaining statistical improbability. It is obviously no solution to postulate something even more improbable."

    That's the kind of argument that would be laughed out of a theology 101 class.

    Why is it?

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #233 - April 17, 2011, 12:40 AM

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  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #234 - April 17, 2011, 12:48 AM

    What is the most compelling evidence of a designer?


    I'm not sure if thread's gone off on a couple of tangents since I last visited but anyway...

    Perhaps I phrased it poorly. I don't' think there is any scientfic evidence for a designer whatsoever - I think what I was trying to say is that with the scientific knowledge we currently have, we can easily get the impression that the universe is 'fined tuned' for it's own existence - but this is because our knowledge is limited to just this universe and we may have no way of knowing whether other universes exist, and indeed our capacity for knowledge of this universe is  likely to be limited . I go on to make this point later in the post.

    But I do get slightly  Roll Eyes when it is constantly put forward as 'the fine-tuning argument'. A better way of describing the issue is 'scientific observations that we are very keen and interested to get to the bottom of'. These 'fine tuning' issues were first described by leading physicists and have been discussed by nobel laureates such as Steven Weinberg. It has led leading physicists such as Sir Martin Rees (Astonomer Royal and Professor at Cambridge University) to propose theories such as Multiverse theory - the idea being that if a bazillion universes exist than at least one might have the right constants/laws to give rise to the existence of a sustainable universe. So kind of like if you buy one lottery ticket your chanes of hitting the jackpot are tiny - but if you were to buy say a 10 million all with different number combinations, then your chances of hitting the jackpot become likely. However, there are some that say that mutiverse is not a theory of science since we cannot make any observations outside of out universe - so it can't be proved/disproved (I btw don't suscribe to the view that it is not a real scientific theory - it just depends on how you define 'science').

    I've tried to discuss the physics in more detail of some of these issues previously on here, if you want I can try to dig up the posts?

    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #235 - April 17, 2011, 12:51 AM

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  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #236 - April 17, 2011, 12:54 AM

    His obit whose contents I've long forgotten is not the... blah blah blah

    Make your mind up what you're fucking talking about, Wormtongue.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #237 - April 17, 2011, 12:56 AM

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  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #238 - April 17, 2011, 12:59 AM

    I'm not sure if thread's gone off on a couple of tangents since I last visited but anyway...

    You might be better off in here, Abu: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=15580.0

    Osmanthus split the topic out of this thread Smiley

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Atheist Censorship
     Reply #239 - April 17, 2011, 01:02 AM

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    So why go running after a skeleten hypothesis like the multiverse?


    i'm not a fan of it by any means - but it's a possibility and currently the 'easiest' (and laziest) 'scientific' hypothesis we have

    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
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