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  • Greetings from the US!
     OP - April 22, 2011, 03:06 AM

    Hey, guys.
    I've been an ex-Muslim for about 6 months now. There's no extensive story about my apostasy, really. I had always noticed inconsistencies in the Qur'an and the moral bankruptcy of Muhammad in the hadith and such, I just kind of pushed them out of my mind thinking it was blasphemous to put him those categories (sex-crazed, slave owner, racist, wife beater, etc.). While attempting to strengthen my deen, I came across more misogynistic ideas in the Quran, specifically, the houri. I asked a few questions in a very small online Muslim community and was handed a slew of personal insults in return. I never did get my answers about those servant boys...Anyway, I picked up a Sam Harris book while looking for more info in the religion section of the university library and it more or less confirmed that I wasn't going out of my mind because I criticized Islamic tenants. Along came Mr. Hitchens, that brilliant man, and several atheist/non-religious websites offering information on religious practices and customs as well as the detailing of factual evidence, literary, ethical and scientific inconsistencies in the Quran and Bible.
    I haven't told a soul online or off and I was hoping to change that. I definitely can't tell any of my siblings as they slip god into every thought process, slut shame, worship the concept of virginity and talk about apostates like they're deviant, soulless invalids. My father is whatever the Islamic version of a Jesus freak is and completely narrow-minded about any opinion besides his own. All the Muslim friends I have gasped in horror when I where a shirt with short sleeves and tie my hijab up, so no luck there. I don't have many non-Muslim friends since I kind of, uh...avoided them thinking they totally wouldn't understand me. Kind of a waste of 3 college years but there's hope yet! I had hoped someone close to me would at least be accepting (and if the need for judgement is there, they'd at least keep it to themselves) but that doesn't seem to be the case in the near future. Ah, well.
    I've started identifying myself as both an agnostic atheist and a secular humanist. I've dedicated myself to living the most I possibly can with my short time here and to do and be compassionate and caring to everyone within reasonable means. So far, it's been a very eye-opening experience and I'm very glad to have found a like-minded community with so many backgrounds. I look forward to learning from you all. Smiley

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #1 - April 22, 2011, 03:17 AM

    Welcome CbyW!
    Have a welcoming parrot  parrot


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    <dust>: milky tea
    <three>: soooo gentle for my neck (from the inside)
    <dust>: mm
    <three>: it's definitely not called neck
    <dust>: lol
    <three>: what's the word i'm looking for
    <dust>: throat
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #2 - April 22, 2011, 03:21 AM

    Welcome! What does "CbyW" mean? How old are you?

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #3 - April 22, 2011, 03:28 AM

    Great intro - signwelcome Whereabouts are you from?

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  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #4 - April 22, 2011, 03:33 AM

    how did you come across this site btw - Did it take long for you to muster up the courage to make your intro post ?

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  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #5 - April 22, 2011, 04:07 AM

    It's a lovely parrot, thank you. <3
    I'm 19 and currently living in Texas. "CbyW" is the acronym for my blog title. I may change it if possible. I found the site through a wiki Islam article. I've been lurking for about a week and a half or two. No mustering of courage to be noted, it was kind of an impulse decision. I was satisfied giggling away in anonymity until today. You guys are hilarious!

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #6 - April 22, 2011, 04:29 AM

    I hope your siblings and dad don't go crazy when/if you eventually tell them. Hey, at least your siblings admit the possibility of apostates. The default position is - "it's impossible" Smiley

    And yes, unfortunately we have a couple of jokers here, but feel free to start a serious thread for a mature intellectual discussion with me, for example.

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #7 - April 22, 2011, 05:38 AM

    They will. But by then, I'll hopefully be financially established and across an ocean. They'll literally have to pay to tell me I'm a disgrace!
    Funny thing, actually. They engage in drinking and smoking cigarettes/weed nearly every night. Clubbing, too. I have to stifle laughter when people tell me I shouldn't be doing this or that when they have boyfriends and girlfriends and engage in plenty of the activities prohibited by Islam.

    I sure will! I'm looking forward for some intellectually stimulating conversation without folks getting all defensive about their beliefs.

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #8 - April 22, 2011, 07:14 AM

    Hey CbyW, signwelcome to the kafir-land.. By the way, I am from US too.. (from Michigan)

    A piece of advice, you should really make some good friends while you are in your studies. It gets very hard to make friends after that.

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  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #9 - April 22, 2011, 11:01 AM

    Welcome CbyW! You made it!
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #10 - April 22, 2011, 11:12 AM


    Howdy, pardner  Afro

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #11 - April 22, 2011, 11:25 AM

    They will. But by then, I'll hopefully be financially established and across an ocean.


    Moving to Asia or Europe? Smiley
    You should go to Belgium, don't even need money. Belgium is known as a place where you can get on welfare even if you're not a citizen, it's crazy.
    The yearly stream of immigrants is astonishing. And almost ALL of them get to stay.

    <dust>: i love tea!!!
    <dust>: milky tea
    <three>: soooo gentle for my neck (from the inside)
    <dust>: mm
    <three>: it's definitely not called neck
    <dust>: lol
    <three>: what's the word i'm looking for
    <dust>: throat
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #12 - April 22, 2011, 01:13 PM

    Welcome to the forum, CbyW. victory

    Nice intro.

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  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #13 - April 22, 2011, 02:17 PM

    Welcome to the forum  Smiley

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  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #14 - April 22, 2011, 02:31 PM

    Thanks for all the welcoming posts.
    @three44: Asia. I'm hoping to get my foot in the door of developmental economics or statistics so that I can either work in rural or urban China. But I'll totally consider Belgium as a future place of residence.
    @muddy: I definitely will. I've only become sociable in the last few months but I'm making plenty of progress. I'll certainly make the best of the time I have left here.

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #15 - April 22, 2011, 02:34 PM

    Welcome to the kafir club Afro
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #16 - April 22, 2011, 09:02 PM

    Yay! More 19 year olds!!  dance
    && this time another one from the US.
    I'm from the Us too, here in the great lakes state Cheesy
     signwelcome
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #17 - April 22, 2011, 10:56 PM

    Welcome to the forum Cbyw

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #18 - April 23, 2011, 12:20 AM

    Welcome to the forum man! i'm a year older than you, rofl! Cheesy

  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #19 - April 23, 2011, 03:18 AM

    Such warm welcomes, thank you all. I feel even better about joining when I did.  Smiley

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #20 - April 23, 2011, 05:06 AM

    Welcome Smiley  parrot

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  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #21 - April 23, 2011, 05:21 AM

    @CbyW
    Why you want to go to China is beyond me... Do you speak the "language"? Or are you sure you could learn it? I could never learn Chinese. Never. I could probably learn 6 other random languages before I could learn Chinese. Unless one of the six was Vietnamese. They are ridiculous. Did you also mention rural areas? Do you know that you would most likely need to learn the totally different language dialect of the area? Just visit the Great Wall and come back. Do you want to just run away from Amreeka, because of the family?

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #22 - April 23, 2011, 06:40 AM

    Welcome,
    and I can, as well as most people on this website, totally relate with you. I told my parents about my beliefs, and they think I'm a drug-addict/crazy person. If you value your relation with your family, I recommend not telling them. It get's kind of insane once they find out that everything that they tried to force on you as a child was for nothing. :/

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  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #23 - April 23, 2011, 08:08 AM

    Alex, I don't doubt my abilities to do or learn anything but I'm not running off overseas just to escape them. Economics is my field of study, I'm learning the language now and there are a few programs available in the department in regards to rural China and the promise of agricultural growth using alternative methods. I'm interested in it and I think I should tell them and if I decide to go. I figure the best time to do so is when I'm halfway across the world. But I may not, though. We'll see.

    Sherif, I'm really sorry to hear about the reaction your family had to finding out about your apostasy.  I'll definitely keep that in mind in regards to my eventual decision.

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #24 - June 17, 2011, 09:06 PM

    I felt the urge to check you out, after reading your last post in the 'I love' thread. Apologies for bumping this thread and apologies for not saying hi earlier.

    A belated welcome from me Miss Wyre  Smiley

    Hi
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #25 - June 17, 2011, 09:11 PM

    Wth i can swear i welcomed you The Wyre where the hell is my welcome post? finmad

    EDIT: this is not me being mad at you btw. Smiley

    Belated welcome although I am 100% sure I have welcomed you.

    signwelcome

    thanks for the bump musivore
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #26 - June 17, 2011, 09:38 PM

    That's weird cause I thought I welcomed her also. Maybe I just did in my head and forgot to post? Either way, I am ready to move on with my life now.

    Hi
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #27 - June 17, 2011, 09:41 PM

    That's weird cause I thought I welcomed her also. Maybe I just did in my head and forgot to post? Either way, I am ready to move on with my life now.


    Glad to know you're ready to move on with your life. Good luck.
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #28 - June 17, 2011, 09:47 PM

    o______O <-- My face when I saw this pop up again.

    S'okay, guys. Thanks for more warm welcomes. <3

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Greetings from the US!
     Reply #29 - June 17, 2011, 10:16 PM

    While attempting to strengthen my deen, I came across more misogynistic ideas in the Quran, specifically, the houri.

    Weren't you disappointed that you'd get virgins in paradise instead of non-virgins who are more experienced?   Afro
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