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  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #420 - March 03, 2012, 03:33 PM

    Ritalin is better then SSRIs.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #421 - March 03, 2012, 03:49 PM

    Are you getting on an antidepressent or a mood stablizer?
    They're kind of the same medications in some cases or maybe just the dose taken at is different. However can be different medications it depends on the individuals diagnosis and responses to the medications.

    Because really the point in most cases is not to make you feel hyper.

    As a nurse I give a lot of medications to a lot of people. It is just odd that people don't want to become dependent on medications for clinical depression. How strange would it sound if a diabetic said they did not want to become dependent on medication to treat thier bloodsugar. What would we think if some one said they didn't want to become dependent on antibiotics to treat an infection. In general I think people need to change how they feel when thier mind or some one elses needs a little extra help. There is no shame or weakness involved. It is perhaps great reasonableness and fine logic to look at a situation and used all available resourses to bring about the best out come.

    Try to look at the next three month as a gift. A special gift of more time with your children during thier teenage years when they real need you. Even if they think they need to be independent. Make the time a special gift to yourself. Do you have a hobby?

    Oh well, I've got to finish driving home. Slept in my car last nigt because 60 miles into my 120 mile drive home from work for the week end I got to tired to move.

    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #422 - March 03, 2012, 06:35 PM

    most antidepressant meds give unpleasant side effect in my case , I was given dosulepin(prothaiden)75mg, it give me fever like feeling,drowsiness,dry lips,sexual dysfunction.Of course yeah I don't want to become dependent.

    I think we need a professional psychiatry doc here, any doc who want to joint cemb?
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #423 - March 04, 2012, 08:31 AM

    Ritalin is better then SSRIs.


    I don't want to be stripped of my energy, what little I have of it.  I've seen teens on ritalin, I wasn't impressed.

    Are you getting on an antidepressent or a mood stablizer?
    They're kind of the same medications in some cases or maybe just the dose taken at is different. However can be different medications it depends on the individuals diagnosis and responses to the medications.

    Because really the point in most cases is not to make you feel hyper.


    It's citalopram 20mg.  Come to think of it I should have been prescribed a lower dose to start me off since I;m not doing well with th side effects right now.  I mean if this is supposed to help me with my anxiety, the actual increased anxiety I am feeling at the moment is stoooooopid.

    I feel like I am on speed, my heart doesn't feel right.  I keep getting random chest pains and my heart beat feels a bit unstable. 

    It says on the side effects not to take it without medical advice if you have a heart condition and that it slows down the heart beat.  I already have a low blood pressure.  I'm not sure I want to keep taking them.  I woke up around 2 hours ago and I've been trembling trying to stabilise the feelings in my chest.  But then my doctor prescribed them for me........surely he wouldn't prescribe me something that was dangerous to me.........or is this that whole bias of people trusting their doctors simply because they are doctors?

    All I know, is I don't feel right. 



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    As a nurse I give a lot of medications to a lot of people. It is just odd that people don't want to become dependent on medications for clinical depression. How strange would it sound if a diabetic said they did not want to become dependent on medication to treat thier bloodsugar. What would we think if some one said they didn't want to become dependent on antibiotics to treat an infection. In general I think people need to change how they feel when thier mind or some one elses needs a little extra help. There is no shame or weakness involved. It is perhaps great reasonableness and fine logic to look at a situation and used all available resourses to bring about the best out come.


    Valid points.   Afro

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    Try to look at the next three month as a gift. A special gift of more time with your children during thier teenage years when they real need you. Even if they think they need to be independent. Make the time a special gift to yourself. Do you have a hobby?


    No.  I have no hobbies anymore.  Don't read like I used to, write like I used to, don't do anything the way I used to.  I just come on here.  This is my hobby, being online.  I miss the things I used to do but they don't satisfy me.  Like I said, life just feels really blah most of the time.  Like I'm just waiting for a way out.

    I don't know if I can stick at this medication.  I feel way too shaky today.  Like scared shaky.

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    Oh well, I've got to finish driving home. Slept in my car last nigt because 60 miles into my 120 mile drive home from work for the week end I got to tired to move.


    Safest choice though.  Hope you made it home and got to relax properly instead of cramped up in your car.   Smiley

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #424 - March 04, 2012, 08:34 AM

    most antidepressant meds give unpleasant side effect in my case , I was given dosulepin(prothaiden)75mg, it give me fever like feeling,drowsiness,dry lips,sexual dysfunction.Of course yeah I don't want to become dependent.


    Yea, I originally came off of them because I hated the side effects.  If they didn't have these sort of side effects I wouldn't care if I became dependent so much.



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    I think we need a professional psychiatry doc here, any doc who want to joint cemb?


    We do.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #425 - March 04, 2012, 09:06 AM

    we do? who? Muslim?
    if Muslim, it can be worked out two way, they gives us therapy we give em our therapy........  grin12
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #426 - March 04, 2012, 02:18 PM

    Berbs, you're mistaken Ritalin, Ritalin tunes the dopamine receptors in your brain, it actually makes you psychologically stimulated! You'll feel full mental energy concentration and motivation. It does not strip you of energy at all, unless of course you have ADHD then it balances your overactive neurons out. In fact Ritalin is given to those who lack energy and motivation it is a psycho-stimulant. Serotonin inhibitors WILL make you zombie like and sleepy and fat! SSRIs are the worst kind of medication ever, they are more destructive then effective, the only reason why they are prescribed is because doctors give you it, doctors (or GPs) only have an understanding of medicine most of the time, they are not qualified in psychology. Since Ritalin is a controlled drug, and more expensive then SSRIs they will always try to convince you, that you don't need it, because Ritalin is used as a recreational drug. But the fact of the matter is, Ritalin has good potential for depression cure and I can't stress this enough. I have a huge study on methylphenidate hydrochloride the active ingredient in Ritalin, and I have read some very positive on randomized, double-blind, controlled trial studies on the drug.

    Give it a shot, for at least a week.  

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #427 - March 09, 2012, 03:16 PM

    BerberElla, Since you feel that bad,very shaky  and afraid, this sound like something  you need to speak to your doctor about. Every medication is not for everyone. There is not really a way in some cases to know excpet to have a person try them. To help yourself and  your doctor keep a list of medications you've taken and the side effects you've  had. This way you can build a history of classes of medications that do or don't work well for  you. It is not a matter of "The doctor should know everything." There is no way for anyone to know everything. You must be on the team with your doctor. Think of it that way. You are a smart lady you'll be a wonderful  team member.

    I got home safe the other day. I really don't  mind sleeping in my car. I have a Chrysler 300. The front set will lay just about flat and I'm just 5"1' so I snug in okay. I like my big bed at home better. At home I sleep  with 3 dogs and a  bunch  of pillows so I'm snuggled in. I still have some seizure activity in my sleep so the snuggled in feeling  makes me feel saFe. We all have the weird stuff we do, well at least I do.

    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #428 - March 16, 2012, 08:19 AM

    I came off the anti depressants.  Only took them for a couple of weeks in the end.  The shakes faded out as did the anxiety but all I was left with was numbness.  Not even a pleasant numbness, a numbness that seemed to take away any ability I had to be in a good mood.

    But mostly I stopped them because I was unable to orgasm whilst I was on them and I don't like that. Grin

    Or so I thought really.  I may have been feeling totally blah whilst on them, and very very depressed, but at least I woke up without crying, or the depression was very blah meaning no tears.

    Today, 2 days off them, I have woken up feeling just as insanely unstable as I was before the meds calmed that part down.  I just want to punch someone again.  Its the rage I am having trouble dealing with.  I can handle the mood swings, at least I can look forward to up days without the meds along with the bad days, rather than just a continuous sequence of blah days.  But the rage in the morning.  The way I wake up in the morning is driving me mad.

    I feel so unappreciated, I feel taken for granted, I feel like no one irl thinks about what is good for me, only what is good for them.  People take take take and when I speak occasionally nothing really changes.  NOTHING.  The only way to change things is to go mad, to punch the people who won't listen to my words, or exile them from me for good.

    But then I can't face myself when I do.  When I think that my brother might end up homeless because he has no job, no money, and has been living off my finances for 4 years and has progressed to a stage where this set up doesn't phase or embarrass him the slightest.  Where everyday is just one long fucking piss take just because I am kind, just because I cared.  I want him out, or I want him to start respecting my rules, but I fail each time because I can't handle the guilt of knowing he has nowhere to go.

    Or to tell my friend that she imposes too much upon my introverted time. That I just don't want to talk on the phone for 3-4hours, I want to be alone.  Like really alone.  Lets meet up once a week, please stop demanding I be extroverted because you are lonely.  I like to be alone.  But I feel guilty because I know she is alone right now and I know she needs me.  So I have no down time.  I must be there always. 

    Or to tell other people other things, it really leads nowhere because I then feel bad.

    The only time I ever stick to my anger and manage to fight off the guilt is when I have been flat out betrayed or when I am physically attacked.  There is no forgiveness for trying to get violent with me.  This is why inspite of my extreme rage issues, and fantasies about knocking people out or smahsing heads in, are just flashes in my mind, because there is no forgiveness for that.  You can not return from the edge, or at least I can't and I try to live by the golden rule.

    When people I care about tell me something I do bothers them, I actually change that.  I don't attempt to, I succeed at it.  I do that out of respect, I do that out of love, I do that because I don't want to lose them and I value them.  And yet it seems, when I speak, the people around me listen, promise and then just carry on like the conversation never happened.  What golden rule?  what equal respect?

    The more I have people in my life the more I hate people.

    So maybe I shouldn't have come off the meds............because I wouldn't be having a rage attack right now.  I would just be blah.  Unable to cum, sure, but unable to come and knock you out?  sounds safer as an emotion.

    I just want to wake up feeling better.  I just want to feel better.  I want this person I am to just die inside me and let me be the person I know I could be, if I didn't have this stupid rage and depression to fight off.

    I feel bitter.  Over my life I feel so angry.  I used to be fine with it but as the years go by it hurts more and not less.  My judgements against myself continue to grow, not to shrink.  The more I see where I am now the more I hate myself for bringing myself here.

    Grin  Man I feel like shit this morning.

    What do I do?  should I go blah again?  banghead

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #429 - March 16, 2012, 08:24 AM

    and I might add, I did reply to you lynna, last week on this thread, but I never hit post because I decided my moan was not postable that day.  Grin

    It's postable today.  I'm that angry that I don't care who thinks "oh here she goes again".  Grin










    meh, this could all be pms.  the panty horror show is due. 

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #430 - March 16, 2012, 08:33 AM

    When I think that my brother might end up homeless because he has no job, no money, and has been living off my finances for 4 years and has progressed to a stage where this set up doesn't phase or embarrass him the slightest.  Where everyday is just one long fucking piss take just because I am kind, just because I cared.  I want him out, or I want him to start respecting my rules, but I fail each time because I can't handle the guilt of knowing he has nowhere to go.


    Can't he at the very least get a job at a fast food restaurant like McDonalds?
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #431 - March 16, 2012, 08:33 AM

    Could be a combination of a lot of things.  far away hug

  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #432 - March 16, 2012, 08:35 AM

    Can't he at the very least get a job at a fast food restaurant like McDonalds?


    Yes Berbs, he could still live with you, but any part time job that would help with some of the bills. I guess you've probably tried that route already, but maybe you need to be a bit more persistent?

  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #433 - March 16, 2012, 08:43 AM

    Can't he at the very least get a job at a fast food restaurant like McDonalds?


    You would think so right?  nope.  Not a hint of a job on the horizons. 

    Plus he is now in college, meaning he isn't even looking for a job anymore.

    This is what I mean, I told him when I found out in september that he had no right to go and start college without informing me because he has basically set me up to have to care for him for 2 more years since he has no fucking money, and that that wasn't fair.

    I got back a huge guilt trip about how he was finally trying to improve his life and he thought I would be happy with that...........which I am, but where does that leave me?

    as his fucking mother thats what.

    The thing that is making me most mad about his presence here is that he is such a miserable asshole.  The more and more he has stayed, the less and less I emerge from room just because his moods drag me down so badly. 

    I walked in yesterday in a very good mood, and within 5 minutes of attempting to communicate with him, I was at rock bottom again because he drains me. 

    What right does anybody have to live in someone elses house, to eat out the fridge, shower everyday, fall asleep with all the electric, ps3, tv and pc, still switched on, continuouslly costing money, yet walking around in a mood that you make no effort to stamp out?  how can anybody be that shit?


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #434 - March 16, 2012, 08:45 AM

    Yes Berbs, he could still live with you, but any part time job that would help with some of the bills. I guess you've probably tried that route already, but maybe you need to be a bit more persistent?


    Persistent how?

    I have tried so hard, but he is also has a criminal record.  its harder for him to get hired than other people.  In 4 years he has only ever had 2 interviews.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #435 - March 16, 2012, 09:33 AM

    Persistent how?


    Just an idea, something I learned at my old school what with all the manipulation and the mind games on the part of the teachers. Give him a deadline. Tell him he has to leave unless he finds a part-time job or something. You don't have to do it, you just have to make him think you will.

    If he does find a job, great. If he doesn't, at least you know you've tried your best and that he really is unemployable, and then you can decide accordingly.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #436 - March 16, 2012, 09:39 AM

    He won't believe I will follow through with it.  I have thrown him out twice, and then the guilt has made me track him down since I know he is homeless.

    This is what I mean, my deadline options have passed, the nice talk has passed, every avenue I feel has passed.

    I must kick him out, there is no other way and I need to prepare myself to do that somehow.  Learn to live with the guilt of it until he finally fixes up.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #437 - March 16, 2012, 09:50 AM

    Or to tell my friend that she imposes too much upon my introverted time. That I just don't want to talk on the phone for 3-4hours, I want to be alone. 

    3-4 hours? Who does she think she is, Andy Warhol's friend in From A to B and Back Again?

    3 minutes is quite enough. "See you Thursday, darling. Take care. Mwah."

    Alone time is gold.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #438 - March 16, 2012, 10:13 AM

    Most of it is just a step by step run through of her day to day activities. 

    I don't mind as much when we are theorising, but even then I prefer to think about my theories before I talk and she prefers to talk as she thinks, ergo I can't think much right now.  banghead

    anyway, I am alone right now.  Blessedly alone.  I am going to go sand some floorboards so that I can't hear the phone if it rings.   Cheesy

    damn my love for this woman.  she is awesome but I am drowning. 

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #439 - March 16, 2012, 10:30 AM

    Quote
    What right does anybody have to live in someone elses house, to eat out the fridge, shower everyday, fall asleep with all the electric, ps3, tv and pc, still switched on, continuouslly costing money, yet walking around in a mood that you make no effort to stamp out?  how can anybody be that shit?


    I do that's, except I don't lived with my big bro.

    I lived with my parent.
    I have my own pension, my bro come home once in a while, everytime he's here, there will be something he's trying to fuck with me, and the best thing is he tell me to get lost while threatening to report me to Islamic Affair Department for my murtadiness.

    As for the moodiness, it's was a side effects from one of the medicine I take, Risperidon with fucking side effects (not taking that shit anymore)

    drowsiness

    dizziness

    nausea

    vomiting

    diarrhea

    constipation

    heartburn

    dry mouth

    increased saliva

    increased appetite-nope sir not working duh!

    weight gain-nope not working on me

    stomach pain

    anxiety-killing me

    agitation-also killing me

    restlessness-fucking killing me

    dreaming more than usual-this one I like

    difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep-fucker

    decreased sexual interest or ability-find another alternatives to orgasm

    vision problems-do care, especially at night when stepping down a steep stair

    muscle or joint pain-I can't tolerate this it's too much for me.its fucking killing meeeeehhhhhh.

    dry or discolored skin-nah..

    difficulty urinating-nope

    nobody know my pain, they just fucking bleating at every small mistake I made,

    the fucking doc(wassup doc care to eat you're own Med),

    just telling me for a slight trembling hand for side effect, nothing about above, and the lovely thing is when I complained to them about it, they fly into rage about this meds is pricey yada..yada..., you should be gratefully about it, everyone have depression event doctor, in fucking mad tone for a physciatrist- yeah I got your point you're  human also, I'm human to kthanxbye(not seeing em doc anymore)

    forgive me if I become to emotional here berb, I'm too tired.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #440 - March 16, 2012, 10:42 AM

    you really need to put yourself first. i know it's really hard sometimes to tell a friend you can't hang out with her, especially when she needs you, but you just need to explain to her that you love to hang out with her but need some time alone. it's difficult to get an extrovert to understand or relate, but you just have to draw your boundaries and make them accept you even if they don't understand.

    i had a similar situation with one of my friends when i used to live with him. he had this expectation that we'd always hang out and be together and it was just something i wasn't into, when i got home i wanted to just relax in my room. he got really pissed and took it personally, but i explained it to him and just drew my boundaries. it seemed like he was insecure and thought i was rejecting him, but he eventually came to accept me.

    i know how fucking hard it is as an introvert to step out of your shell and tell people you need to be yourself, to really express yourself, but believe me, it's made me so so so so much happier when i gained the courage to really be myself, to refuse to hang out with my friends if i needed to be alone. sometimes i even separate from my party for a bit just to get a breather. because that's who i am and fuck you if you can't accept it. it's really not my problem if people can't accept the fact that sometimes i want to be alone, and it shouldn't be yours either.

    once you build the courage and confidence to be yourself, you'll be so much happier and it'll resonate in everything you do. and the ironic thing is that once you express yourself and be confident with who you are, you'll be a lot more social because you know you can always go back to your own space.

    when i was at a rave a month ago i was all over the place, socializing with all my different friends. that was even before the drug kicked in. and from the beginning i told my friends i came with not to worry about me if i just disappear because that's just what i do. and i could barely enjoy the music because of how many people i was with, but i just told myself that i love raves for the people as much as i do for the music... i was really really happy at who i became. one of my new year's resolutions was to be more open about myself and it was really paying off. and i could see that my friends really admired it, the fact that i can so unabashedly be myself. and when morning came and my friends wanted to leave i told them i'm going home and had some time alone. retrospectively i wish i had stayed and enjoyed the music alone, but knowing that i can express myself and tell people when i have to leave... that really made me realize that i had begun a new stage of my life. it's the new me, the real me. the person who i am inside became finally in-sync with the person who i am outside.

    sorry for turning this about me, but i think you might be able to relate. i don't know your entire situation but it seems that you have depression and anxiety because of your environment and because you feel you can't be yourself, like your true self is stuck somewhere unknown in your head and is struggling to come out. and believe me, i have fucking been there. the internal struggle, the imbalance between who you are inside and who you are outside, the depression, the anxiety, the feeling that people have no idea who you are and you have no idea how to let them in or to let yourself out. i wished there was a pill to end it all. i wished i could stand on top of the world and shout for people to fucking see me, to fucking understand me.. but all i really needed was to stand up for myself, to have the courage to tell people what i want or how i feel. if i like someone i tell them, if i want to hang out with someone i tell them, if i want to be alone i speak up... and right now i wish i could share my happiness with the whole world.. because this happiness is real, not anything any drug can give you (well maybe except mdma dance), and i wish everyone can be themselves, express themselves, and be happy and proud with who they really are. and believe me, if i can do it, so can you, so can everyone else. it just takes a lot of fucking courage and a positive attitude.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #441 - March 16, 2012, 10:55 AM

    Persistent how?

    I have tried so hard, but he is also has a criminal record.  its harder for him to get hired than other people.  In 4 years he has only ever had 2 interviews.




    If he has a criminal record - fine. Get him to at least start working - get him to volunteer in a soup kitchen instead of playing PS3 etc. This will at least demonstrate to future employers that he is willing to learn from past mistakes and apply himself.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #442 - March 16, 2012, 03:20 PM

    He won't believe I will follow through with it.  I have thrown him out twice, and then the guilt has made me track him down since I know he is homeless.

    This is what I mean, my deadline options have passed, the nice talk has passed, every avenue I feel has passed.

    I must kick him out, there is no other way and I need to prepare myself to do that somehow.  Learn to live with the guilt of it until he finally fixes up.

    Sometimes it is more compassionate to be cruel. It takes a lot of strength to follow it through and you may feel guilty but that doesn't make it a bad decision.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #443 - March 16, 2012, 06:21 PM

    Berbs, stop feeling sorry for yourself and expecting others to have compassion for you. The world does not owe you or me anything, the sooner you realize the better, you need to take anything that comes your way with both hands, but don't be taken advantage of be used and abused. everyone is out for an opportunity to get high or make money or get sex from your expanse. Fuck them.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #444 - March 16, 2012, 08:55 PM

    Hey Berbs,

    I haven't been through half the shit you have, but I have had very low self-esteem, and suffered from anxiety and depression for a number of years. So I thought I'd pass on 2 things that helped me.

    For anxiety

    This may seem like some hippy bullshit but this genuinely helped me with anxiety issues - it won't hurt to try it for a week or so...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXKIGk8Zuuc

    For relationships

    The model of Transactional analysis really helped/helps me to understand interpersonal dynamics...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKNyFSLJy6o

    (the rest of the series is just as insightful)

     far away hug
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #445 - March 17, 2012, 09:16 AM

    <some serious side effects>

    forgive me if I become to emotional here berb, I'm too tired.


    Wow paranoid, that is some serious side effects you have to go through.  Does the medication actually help you feel better after all of those side effects? 


    <inspirational reminder of why I should speak out more>

    and right now i wish i could share my happiness with the whole world.. because this happiness is real, not anything any drug can give you (well maybe except mdma dance), and i wish everyone can be themselves, express themselves, and be happy and proud with who they really are. and believe me, if i can do it, so can you, so can everyone else. it just takes a lot of fucking courage and a positive attitude.


    You are right.  The only thing is, and its not an excuse, more of a reason that I hope to work past, is that I have other fears about speaking out.

    As a child when I spoke up I was beaten, in my marriage when I spoke up I was beaten, many times when I speak up I get villified and punished, or I lose people that matter to me.  I learn after speaking up that people don't care much.  Its their way or goodbye way, or hurt me.

    Its not like I think I will be abused or have to fight if I speak, but somehow its like I freeze and then I repress how I am feeling, make light of my feelings, and things just stay the same and I just stay trapped and unhappy.

    I was going to speak to my brother last night, but he conveniently fell asleep before I could.  Now I'm awake and I am angry again, and once again I must wait til tonight to try to speak because I can't do it infront of the kids.  I like to minimise the drama they have to see as much as possible and they see far too much as it is sometimes.

    My kids belong to the 'carer's network' because they are classed as carers.  The 2 youngest ones.  The 8 and 9yr olds are considered carers for a depressed mother and a psyhotic brother.  So yeah, I save this for later.  So that if it gets out of hand, if it turns serious, then they don't see it or hear it.

    Again not that I think it will actually turn into a fight, but I had a nother brother living with me once, and when I finally spoke up to him, he threw everything I had done for him back in my face, and then attacked my with my broken ankle to try and rob me.  I had to call the police after he rampaged through my house and threw all my children's food in the bin so that I wouldn't be able to feed them.

    So..............why would I believe that things will go smoothly?  why would I trust anyone to take what I have to say, even when I always say it al as NICE as I fucking can.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #446 - March 17, 2012, 10:27 AM

    If he has a criminal record - fine. Get him to at least start working - get him to volunteer in a soup kitchen instead of playing PS3 etc. This will at least demonstrate to future employers that he is willing to learn from past mistakes and apply himself.



    and if he doesn't comply?

    Really, I know my brother pretty well at this stage and you can be damn sure he won't comply.  It's pointless to try anymore.

    Sometimes it is more compassionate to be cruel. It takes a lot of strength to follow it through and you may feel guilty but that doesn't make it a bad decision.


    Yea.  I think this is just what I have to accept now.  Its been 4 years, I have given ultimatums before, I have expressed how I feel before, and it never ever changes.  If anything his attitude of expectancy is worse now than ever.

    I have no choice anymore.  I have to kick him out and kick him out for good.  Sink or swim it has to be on him now.  He is 21.  I have done what I promised I would do.

    I have been there for all of my siblings, I have let them all live with me at some stage.  All because no one was ever there for me when I was homeless and young, I promised myself I would be there.

    But I never thought I would have to be here this long.  Grin

    Berbs, stop feeling sorry for yourself and expecting others to have compassion for you. The world does not owe you or me anything, the sooner you realize the better, you need to take anything that comes your way with both hands, but don't be taken advantage of be used and abused. everyone is out for an opportunity to get high or make money or get sex from your expanse. Fuck them.


    Who the fuck thinks the world owes them something?  Cheesy

    I don't blame anybody but me,  no one owes me anything. 

    Hey Berbs,

    I haven't been through half the shit you have, but I have had very low self-esteem, and suffered from anxiety and depression for a number of years. So I thought I'd pass on 2 things that helped me.

    For anxiety

    This may seem like some hippy bullshit but this genuinely helped me with anxiety issues - it won't hurt to try it for a week or so...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXKIGk8Zuuc

    For relationships

    The model of Transactional analysis really helped/helps me to understand interpersonal dynamics...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKNyFSLJy6o

    (the rest of the series is just as insightful)

     far away hug


    thanks for the links.  I will watch them later.  I need to get on with more DIY today.   Smiley

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #447 - March 17, 2012, 10:44 AM

    i totally get you. i used to feel the same way and to be honest still do sometimes. and i don't really know why. i mean i guess sometimes people did tell me not to express myself but i didn't think it'd have that much of an effect on me. so i'm sure the fact that you had to live through that makes it a lot worse. but it's just a matter of trying to continuously prove yourself wrong. and you have to keep in mind that even if people do try to shut you up and put you down it tends to say something about them and not about you.

    it's really hard to be conscious of those things and actually constantly have them at the forefront of your mind, but you just have to always remember them till you don't need to.
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #448 - March 17, 2012, 12:31 PM

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    Wow paranoid, that is some serious side effects you have to go through.  Does the medication actually help you feel better after all of those side effects?


    nope, it make me much more depressed than before....  Cry
  • Re: From the mouth of madness - My blog
     Reply #449 - March 18, 2012, 10:07 AM

    i totally get you. i used to feel the same way and to be honest still do sometimes. and i don't really know why. i mean i guess sometimes people did tell me not to express myself but i didn't think it'd have that much of an effect on me. so i'm sure the fact that you had to live through that makes it a lot worse. but it's just a matter of trying to continuously prove yourself wrong. and you have to keep in mind that even if people do try to shut you up and put you down it tends to say something about them and not about you.

    it's really hard to be conscious of those things and actually constantly have them at the forefront of your mind, but you just have to always remember them till you don't need to.


    well I had the talk with my brother this morning.  I went to him and told him that I have been trying to speak to him for the last 2 evenings but he keeps falling asleep too early so make sure he was around later today so we can talk, and he asked if we could talk now instead so that his tiredness didn't fuck things up again.

    So we just talked.  No drama, he didn't do what I am so used to people doing, he seemed to listen and take on board what I said.

    We have also discussed his housing options, which are still limited to my house or my parents or the street because he is male, and males don't get help from the ages of 18 - 25 in this country.  Roll Eyes

    He wants to stay here until he has finished college as he wants to go to university, an ambition he credits to me since he sees me trying so hard to get my life on track at my age.  (was very flattered Grin )

    So anyway we discussed his financial contribution to the house, and setled on an amount I feel comfortable taking from him.  we talked about a lot of things, and I feel like one weight has been lifted off my shoulders somewhat now.  Just left with the nervousness of "will he stick to his promises" since most people flake out of their promises really fucking quickly.

    So anyway.  Tis done.  1 down, 2 more to go.   Smiley

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
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