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 Topic: Khadija

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  • Khadija
     OP - July 18, 2011, 10:26 AM

    Just thinking, I don't think I came across any Hadiths from Khadija  Mohammed's first wife? Anyone here knows of any?

    Apologies for my ignorance Smiley

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    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
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  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #1 - July 18, 2011, 10:40 AM

    She couldn't have narrated as she died before the start of hardcore violent islam.

    But one theory I am quiet convinced with. She was a very intelligent and successful cougar. When she was getting older, she is the one who planned this religion to distract moh of her old age. She was the one who made moh sure that his first revelation in hira cave was real (yeah, her! Not Allah or Jibrael)

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  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #2 - July 18, 2011, 10:46 AM

    doesn't make sense to me, if she planned it, then for sure there will be a lot narrated from her, there are a lot of hadith on the prophet early days, why none are narrated to her?  She lived with him as a mature woman for a lot longer than Ayesha did, she was a kid for most of her time spend with the prophet and he died when she was still a teenage.  So how come she is the biggest teacher in Islam when it should have been Khadijah?

    Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
    T.S.Eliot
  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #3 - July 18, 2011, 10:52 AM

    I am saying, she was quiet old to narrate anything girl, and she died before the hardcore islam began! She had close to zero contact with the muslims that wrote the history.

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  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #4 - July 18, 2011, 10:54 AM

    Anyways, there are about 15 hadiths, that are returned by this search:

    http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=Khadija&translator=2&search=1&book=&start=0&records_display=100&search_word=all

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  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #5 - July 18, 2011, 10:58 AM

    Just thinking, I don't think I came across any Hadiths from Khadija  Mohammed's first wife? Anyone here knows of any?

    Apologies for my ignorance Smiley

    That is Such a good question ,  It strengthens my belief in Islam dear Fara7


     I am quiet convinced   She was a  ougar.

    she was quiet old to narrate anything and she died before the hardcore  began!

    Unless you find hadith on her otherwise you Shut up muddy

    Oops you are smart Muddu.. http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=Khadija&translator=2&search=1&book=&start=0&records_display=100&search_word=all

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #6 - July 18, 2011, 10:59 AM

    did you actually read the search results lol... most of these are hadiths about Khadija but narrated by Ayesha !! who actually was a todler or a bit older when Khadija died

    Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
    T.S.Eliot
  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #7 - July 18, 2011, 11:06 AM

    did you actually read the search results lol... most of these are hadiths about Khadija but narrated by Ayesha !! who actually was a todler or a bit older when Khadija died

    Oh I see., you mean to say she(Khadija) should have narrated??  But you must realize all hadith are narrated by none of those whose names are mentioned by these SAHIH IDIOTS...  How on this earth these fools Sahih Bukhari, Malik Muwatta,  Sunan Abu dawud knew what Muhammad said to all  his companions ??
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       * Abbad ibn Bishr - known for his devotion to worship, knowledge and courage in battle
        * Abbas ibn 'Abdul Muttalib - was a paternal uncle of Muhammad
        * Abd-Allah ibn Abbas - from paganism, cousin of Muhammad
        * Abd-Allah ibn Abd-al-Asad - from paganism, among the first who converted to Islam
        * Abd-Allah ibn Jahsh - from paganism, cousin of Muhammad
        * Abd-Allah ibn Mas'ud - from paganism, was the 6th man who converted to Islam after Muhammad started preaching in Mecca
        * Abd-Allah ibn Sailam - from paganism
        * Abd-Allah ibn Umar - from paganism, son of the second Caliph Umar ibn Khattab
        * Abd-al-Rahman ibn Awf - from paganism, one of the first eight persons to accept Islam
        * Abdullah ibn Sailam - from Judaism, was a rabbi
        * Abdullah ibn Hudhafah as-Sahmi
        * Abu Ayyub al-Ansari - was one among the Ansar
        * Abu Bakr - father of Aisha, first of the Four Caliphs and rightful successor to Muhammad (according to Sunni Muslims)
        * Abu Dharr - from paganism, noted for his piety
        * Abu Hurayrah - from Judaism, narrator of Hadith most quoted in the isnad
        * Abu Musa al-Asha'ari - governor of Basra and Kufa
        * Abu Sufyan ibn al-Harith - son of Harith ibn Abd al-Muttalib
        * Abu Ubayda ibn al-Jarrah - member of the Quraysh clan al-Harith ibn Fihr
        * Adiyy ibn Hatim - from paganism, was an Arab king
        * Aisha - from pre-Islamic Arab paganism, scholar, the youngest wife of Muhammad, see Wives of Muhammad
        * Al-Baraa ibn Malik al-Ansari - from paganism, personal aide of Muhammad.
        * Ali ibn Abi Talib - first Imam, last of the Four Caliphs and rightful successor to Muhammad (according to Shi'a Muslims)
        * An-Numan ibn Muqarrin - was the leader of the tribe of Banu Muzaynah
        * At-Tufayl ibn Amr ad-Dawsi - was chief of the Daws tribe from Tihama
        * Bilal ibn Ribah - freed from slavery by Muhammad.
        * Habib ibn Zayd al-Ansari - martyr of Islam
        * Hakim ibn Hazm - from paganism, was principal narrator of hadith
        * Hamza ibn Abd al-Muttalib - from paganism, uncle of Muhammad
        * Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman - one of the earliest converts to Islam
        * Jafar ibn Abi Talib - known as "the possessor of two wings"
        * Julaybib - from paganism, was a martyr
        * Khabbab ibn al-Aratt - from the Banu Tamim clan in Najd
        * Khadijah bint Khuwaylid - from pre-Islamic Arab paganism, businesswoman, the first wife of Muhammad, the first female convert to Islam, see Wives of Muhammad
        * Khalid bin Al-Walid - from paganism, the invincible general
        * Muadh ibn Jabal - noted for his intelligence, quick wit, potency in speech
        * Muhammad Ibn Maslamah - was among the first in Yathrib to become a Muslim
        * Musab ibn Umayr - from paganism
        * Nuaym ibn Masud - from paganism
        * Rabiah ibn Kab - from paganism
        * Rumaysa bint Milhan - from paganism, one of the earliest women converts to Islam
        * Sa'd ibn Abi-Waqqas - from the Banu Zuhrah clan
        * Sa'd ibn Muadh - from Paganism
        * Salman the Persian - from Zoroastrism
        * Umar ibn al-Khattab - second of the Four Caliphs
        * Uthman ibn Affan - third of the Four Caliphs


    I SAY THERE WAS NO SINGLE  MUHAMMAD IN ISLAM as Islamic historians allege., there were multiple Muhammads



    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #8 - July 18, 2011, 11:22 AM

     As Muddy said, I think she died long before the importance of narrating and recording hadiths became apparent to the early Muslim community. Aisha's youth during Mo's time helped to ensure that her version, however, was recorded to the dot.

    From what I've read, I think Muddy may also have a point about the role that Kadijah played in giving rise to Islam. She was shrewd and manipulative enough to have seen the benefit in playing up to Mo's fledgling narcissist tendencies, and thus to have convinced him that he was indeed the Special one. Once he was set on this road, and with Khadija's constant guidance, the dangerous and almost unstoppable ball that would become Islam had been set into motion...

    I suppose I'm trying to say that indeed she could have set Mo off, and still not had any hadiths credited to her (because of her death before the hardcore recording of everything began).

    Hi
  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #9 - July 18, 2011, 11:35 AM

    I SAY THERE WAS NO SINGLE  MUHAMMAD IN ISLAM as Islamic historians allege., there were multiple Muhammads



    This may explain his different behaviour at the end of his life than at the start, at the start he was peaceful, loyal to his wife, loving etc... then he turns into this new man, marrying every woman he can, having sex with salves, and encouraging violence /war etc

    Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
    T.S.Eliot
  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #10 - July 18, 2011, 11:44 AM

    Or it could be simply that power corrupted him, and that his ego eventually got the better of him.

    Hi
  • Re: Khadija
     Reply #11 - July 18, 2011, 11:47 AM

    This may explain his different behaviour at the end of his life than at the start, at the start he was peaceful, loyal to his wife, loving etc... then he turns into this new man, marrying every woman he can, having sex with salves, and encouraging violence /war etc

    In fact a careful look at the history tells me that "There was NO Makka  and the alleged present place Madina is completely wrong.."  A good friend  "the Cat" explores that subject  in detail in FFI..


    Muhammad -Myth vs Reality.


    MECCA -Myth vs Reality: In Search of Mt Sinai!

    Quran is a copy pasted book with MULTIPLE AUTHORS each one not reading other's version properly and it got just collated at the end in to the present form.. Hadith is full of bull shit and full of stories., It is possible some of it may be correct  but again stories of different Muhammad  at different times..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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