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  • One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     OP - August 19, 2011, 07:13 PM

    This has not been posted on the OLFA site yet, (but as I filmed it I'm posting it here for members).

    This is Anne on Shari'ah Law:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oVKrlkl2PA
  • Re: One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     Reply #1 - August 19, 2011, 07:13 PM

    This is Anne on British Law.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnOOCa6VMMY
  • Re: One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     Reply #2 - August 19, 2011, 08:44 PM

    Interesting films, but they sound as if they were both recorded in a swimming pool, so it's very difficult to understand what she's saying. Maybe something can be done about the sound before they are released?

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     Reply #3 - August 19, 2011, 09:01 PM

    Yes, I'm not sure what to do about the sound. Maryam asked me to film it as she didn't have anyone else to do it. I told her I have only done Youtube vids and never done anything like this and only have a bog standard camcorder. But she said do it anyway. So I just set on a tripod and filmed it. Like I say I'm no expert and it's the first time I filmed anything like this. I don't have a clue about how to improve the sound.
  • Re: One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     Reply #4 - August 20, 2011, 05:13 PM

    OK I deleted the above vids. Increased the volume and uploaded them again.

    It still sounds like it was filmed in a swimming pool. If anyone can tell me how to avoid that in future in case I have to film other vids like this - I would be grateful.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuqPbziL2xA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4j9lfHaaIg
  • Re: One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     Reply #5 - August 20, 2011, 05:22 PM

    A lot better already! When you need a better sound, don't use large spaces, like (i think) an empty classroom. Confine the space, and see to it that lots of curtains are there, and a carpet on the ground.

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     Reply #6 - August 20, 2011, 05:26 PM

    It was an empty room - smallish - in Conway Hall. No carpets or curtains. Just big table and chairs.

    Perhaps I should invest in an external mic? (Well if Maryam wants me to do this sort of thing often)
  • Re: One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     Reply #7 - August 28, 2011, 03:51 AM

    Then you run into the problem of directional and omnidirectional mics, etc. Best thing to do is record in small spaces and not right up against the wall — otherwise you will have lots of reverb on the sound!
  • Re: One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     Reply #8 - September 03, 2011, 09:34 PM

    on that note   "One Law For All - - Shari'ah Law & British Law" let us read the critics who consider "Maryam Namazie and her allies"  as "poisonous little gang of pseudo-leftists."
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    This week Maryam Namazie of the Worker-Communist Party of Iran announced the publication of a new book, Enemies Not Allies: The Far-Right. Co-authored by Namazie and Adam Barnett, it is issued under the imprint of One Law For All, an organisation launched by the WPI and its friends to campaign against the supposed threat posed by Sharia law in the UK.
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    The authors claim that the far right have "attempted to hijack legitimate criticism of Islamism" and the stated aim of their book is to establish the differences between the position of OLFA and that of "racist campaigns and organisations". So we are given a summary of the ideology and political practice of the British National Party and the English Defence League, and of Stop Islamisation of Europe and its US franchise headed by Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, all of whom the authors roundly denounce.

    Now it is certainly true that the WPI have major differences with the BNP, the EDL, SIOE and SIOA. Obviously Maryam Namazie and her comrades do not have a long history of activity on the neo-Nazi right like Nick Griffin, they do not head a violent anti-Muslim street movement like the leaders of the EDL, nor are they rabid ultra-Zionists like Pamela Geller. However, when it comes to Islam, the common ground that exists between the WPI and sections of the Islamophobic right, including some of its most extreme elements, is quite clear. And that is something Enemies Not Allies completely ignores.

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    For example, in the immediate aftermath of the 2005 London bombings – at a time when a violent Islamophobic backlash was under way and one Muslim, Kamal Raza Butt, had just been beaten to death – Namazie's response was to complain that "we are constantly told this terrorist attack has nothing to do with Islam by 'mainstream' Islamic groups.... Britain's 'top Muslim scholars', for example, are to issue a fatwa effectively ex-communicating the 'bombers'.... And they say they are not part of the same movement and that this has nothing to do with Islam. In fact, terrorism is justified and encouraged in Islam.... The Koran is full of verses supporting terrorism."

    In another article published directly after 7/7 – in the labour movement magazine Tribune of all places – Namazie condemned "the futile and ongoing support for a 'moderate' Islam". And she quoted the WPI's founder Mansoor Hekmat as saying that Islam does not include "a progressive, supportable faction".

    Indeed, these are not just the personal views of Namazie herself – they express the positions of the bizarre political sect to which she belongs. Her fellow WPI central committee member and OLFA supporter Bahram Soroush has similarly argued that it is "very difficult to try to separate Islam from Islamic terrorist organisations". He is also on record as stating: "As in every phenomenon – and Islam is not excluded from that – you have extreme, moderate, centre, etc. But that is not the issue. This is a question of degrees; a relative thing. In any repugnant thing you can find things which are less repugnant than the others. Our problem is with the whole of Islam...."

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    Far from limiting itself to "legitimate criticism of Islamism", the WPI has in fact persistently blurred the distinctions between Islam and political Islam, and between reformist and extremist tendencies within Islamism itself. Their propaganda does indeed constitute an attack on "the whole of Islam".

    OLFA's anti-Sharia campaign is a case in point. The reality is that 95% of the work of Sharia councils is concerned with matrimonial issues – mainly applications for a religious divorce by women trapped in failed marriages from which their husbands refuse to free them. In that regard, Najma Ebrahim of the Muslim Women's Helpline has described such councils as providing a vital service. In addition, the Muslim arbitration tribunals which also base their rulings on Sharia, and have been set up entirely legally under the 1996 Arbitration Act, deal with disputes over commercial and civil issues.

    Yet the WPI and OLFA have systematically misrepresented these institutions as part of an aggressive expansionist project by political Islam. Enemies Not Allies tells us: "The establishment of Sharia law in Britain is a direct result of Islamism.... Sharia law is fundamentally the demand of Islamic states and the political Islamic movement to limit citizens' rights." And in case you were wondering why OLFA's propaganda is directed exclusively against Sharia councils and ignores the Beth Din courts that operate along similar lines within the Jewish community, Enemies Not Allies explains that, while "Sharia is no different from other religious laws, its adverse effects on people's lives are more widely felt due to the growth of Islamism's political power".

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    The hijab, too, is seen by the WPI as part of some sinister Islamist plot. Writing in support of the headscarf ban in French state schools, Namazie delivered the following truly demented rant:

    "'My Hijab, My Right' is like saying 'My FGM (Female Genital Mutilation), My Right'!!! The veil is an instrument to control a woman's sexuality, like FGM.... Today, more than ever before, the veil is political Islam's symbol.... The veil is not just another piece of clothing – just as FGM is not just another custom. I suppose if it were to be compared with anyone's clothing it would be comparable to the Star of David pinned on Jews by the Nazis to segregate, control, repress and to commit genocide."

    Here again, a mainstream religious practice, the wearing of the Islamic headscarf (and despite her reference to the "veil" Namazie's target here is the hijab rather than the niqab) is portrayed as part of some plan by "the political Islamic movement" to impose its will on society – "the same movement", Namazie helpfully explains, "that has blown up innocent people on buses, cafes and in office buildings across the globe". And in addition to being linked to terrorism, the broad section of Islam that regards the hijab as a religious requirement is compared directly to Nazism.

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    Mainstream individuals and organisations within the Muslim community have been subjected to the same hysterical denunciations by Namazie. Addressing the annual meeting of the Peter Tatchell Human Rights Fund in 2006, she attacked Sir Iqbal Sacranie, the then secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, in the following terms: "He may be a 'Sir' but he is still a proponent of political Islam, the fascism of today." In a speech at a meeting to mark the International Day Against Homophobia in 2007, Namazie claimed that the only reason the MCB isn't killing homosexuals is that they do not hold state power and therefore "cannot mete out their Islamic justice with hangings in Trafalgar Square".


    From this loopy standpoint, even a highly-respected Muslim intellectual like Tariq Ramadan, Professor of Contemporary Islamic Studies at the University of Oxford, is no more than a stealth Islamist whose real ideology and aims do not differ essentially from those of the extremist buffoon who heads Muslims Against Crusades. According to the authors of Enemies Not Allies: "The 'hate cleric' Anjem Choudary supports stoning to death as do more 'liberal' Islamists like Tariq Ramadan. The 'liberals' have merely adapted their language and changed tactics to better dupe public opinion."

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    It is difficult to see how this rhetoric differs in any way from the sort of raging bigotry you might hear from the EDL, the BNP, SIOE or Pamela Geller. Does anyone seriously buy the argument that such frothing-at-the-mouth Islamophobia comes under the heading of "legitimate criticism of Islamism"?

    It is not surprising, therefore, that the WPI and its initiatives have been favourably received by the Islamophobic right. They may have fallen out now, but Namazie was once hailed by Robert Spencer for her denunciations of "Islam-stricken societies" and her warnings about the threat that political Islam poses to the West. When Namazie was interviewed by the Times in 2008, Jihad Watch congratulated her on a "powerful statement of why Sharia is incompatible with Western standards of justice and human rights". OLFA's 2009 anti-Sharia demonstration in London was publicised by Jihad Watch, and only last year Spencer's website recommended an article that Namazie wrote for the Guardian promoting the OLFA publication Sharia Law in Britain.

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    When the WPI launched its fraudulent Council of Ex-Muslims – a front organisation in which the "ex-Muslims" consist almost entirely of WPI members – Spencer enthusiastically endorsed it: "Such a group is much needed, unfortunately. This is really something Western governments should be doing, if they had any sense of what they are trying to defend when they resist the jihad." Namazie and her comrades were also acclaimed by right-wing US pundit Michelle Malkin as "some of the bravest of the brave in Europe today" for forming the CEM. Malkin posted a video of Namazie on her blog and urged her readers: "Find a way to show your support. These are the people putting their necks on the line for Western civilization."

    The formation of One Law For All was itself applauded at FrontPage Magazine by Deborah Weiss of Vigilance Now, who argued that a victory for OLFA's campaign against Sharia councils would be "a statement to those who hold a radical political ideology cloaked in the name of Islam, that Britain stands for freedom and equality, and will not appease those who seek to subvert it". FrontPage Magazine is run by the David Horowitz Freedom Center which is also the main source of funding for Jihad Watch.

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    Even more extremist right-wing forces have taken inspiration from the WPI. At an anti-Sharia demonstration in London last year organised by the English Nationalist Alliance – a far-right organisation recently proscribed by the EDL because of its links with the neo-Nazi groups Combat 18 and Redwatch – a protestor was seen brandishing an OLFA placard. In fact the EDL itself has spoken favourably of OLFA – "we welcome their contribution to the debate about sharia" – and even issued the following appeal:

    "We do not believe everything that One Law for All stands for, they clearly object to at least some of our positions. However, that does not mean that we cannot work together. It does not mean that we cannot put them in touch with some of our allies overseas who they might be more comfortable working with. It is important that One Law for All puts itself into a position to influence the global Counterjihad by contributing thought provoking ideas that expand its perspective and provide it with new approaches and thus alternative ways to solve the problems at hand."


    While the WPI balks at accepting the EDL's offer of co-operation, that doesn't mean Namazie and her comrades reject joint work with other sections of the Islamophobic right. A featured speaker at OLFA's Enemies Not Allies seminar earlier this year was Douglas Murray, director of the Centre for Social Cohesion – billed by OLFA as "a non-partisan think-tank" whose purpose is to "promote human rights, tolerance and greater cohesion among the UK's ethnic and religious communities and within wider British society". In fact the CSC is a right-wing propaganda organisation which has played a prominent role in what the recently published Spinwatch study describes as "the Cold War on British Muslims".

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    Murray himself was responsible for a notorious speech at the 2006 Pim Fortuyn Memorial Conference, where he demanded: "Why is it that time and again the liberal West is crumpling before the violence, intimidation and thuggery of Islam? ... It is late in the day, but Europe still has time to turn around the demographic time-bomb which will soon see a number of our largest cities fall to Muslim majorities. It has to. All immigration into Europe from Muslim countries must stop.... Conditions for Muslims in Europe must be made harder across the board."

    Murray took advantage of the platform provided by OLFA to criticise their opposition to collaboration with the EDL, who he saw as a potential ally in the fight against Sharia. "The English Defence League when they started protesting had banners saying things like 'Sharia law discriminates against women', 'Sharia law is anti-gay'", Murray argued. "Well I'm good with both of those sentiments. I'm sure most people in this room are. If you're ever going to have a grassroots response from non-Muslims to Islamism that would be how you'd want it, surely."


    OLFA itself represents an alliance between the WPI and a section of the Islamophobic right. One of its prominent supporters is Baroness Cox, whose parliamentary bill against Sharia courts is backed by OLFA. Speaking in 2007 at the conclusion of a meeting of the Jerusalem Summit, a hardline Zionist organisation of which she is co-president, Baroness Cox stated: "The threat of a militant and totalitarian form of Islam poses the greatest threat to our cultures today, and Israel is standing at the front-lines of this struggle against militant Islam which would destroy the values of our societies." In an interview with the Jerusalem Post afterwards, Cox described the situation in the UK as she saw it:

    "The sad thing is that growing in our midst there is a significant portion of [Muslim] youth who seem to believe in values that are absolutely antithetical to the spiritual, political and cultural values on which this nation has been based over the centuries. Given their continuous embrace and manifest endorsement of terror activities, this represents not only a political threat but a physical threat which demonstrates their ruthlessness in their commitment to do everything they can to take over our society and to destroy our faith and freedom."
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    Unsurprisingly, given her views on the threat posed by Muslim communities in the West and her support for Israel as a bulwark against Islam, Cox is a great admirer of the Dutch far-right racist Geert Wilders. In 2010 she and the then UKIP leader Lord Pearson notoriously invited Wilders to show his Islamophobic film Fitna at the House of Lords, while the EDL demonstrated outside in support of Wilders, brandishing placards reading "England Needs a Gert".

    Not that the WPI has any problem working with Wilders' allies. In 2007 a Dutch Labour Party politician named Ehsan Jami co-wrote an article with Wilders for the daily paper Volkskrant, in which they argued: "If we do not act now against the far-reaching Islamisation of the Netherlands, then the 1930s will be revived. The only difference is that back then the danger came from Adolf Hitler, while today it comes from Mohammed." Quite rightly, the Labour Party expelled Jami, who subsequently joined Wilders' PVV. Yet, when Namazie and her Council of Ex-Muslims held an international conference on "Political Islam, Sharia Law and Civil Society" in 2008, that didn't prevent them inviting Ehsan Jami as a speaker.

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    Wilders is a close ally of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, whose anti-Muslim politics Enemies Not Allies devotes many pages to exposing, and he was the star international speaker at SIOA's "Ground Zero Mosque" protest in September 2010. Wilders compares the Qur'an to Mein Kampf and describes mosques as "palaces of hate". When he spoke at the House of Lords at the meeting co-hosted by Baroness Cox, Wilders used the opportunity to set out his view that all Muslim immigration into Europe should be stopped on the grounds that Islam is a "totalitarian ... fascist ideology".

    In other words, Wilders is a clear example of the "new form of reaction" identified by the authors of Enemies Not Allies, which "demonstrates extreme xenophobia, bigotry and paranoia concerning Muslims and immigrants". And the WPI certainly has no illusions about what he stands for: "Geert Wilders as a right-wing politician has got his own agenda, which is to blame most of the problems in Dutch society on immigrants and to label them with the mark of Islam." Yet Enemies Not Allies omits Wilders entirely from its study, even though as an elected politician who heads the third largest party in the Dutch parliament he exercises far more influence on a European and international level than the EDL, BNP or the minuscule SIOE.


    And the reason for this omission is obvious. In OLFA the WPI finds itself in a bloc with one of Wilders' leading British sympathisers, namely Baroness Cox. If OLFA spoke out against Wilders, then the WPI's anti-Sharia alliance with Cox would collapse. So the authors of Enemies Not Allies loudly proclaim their opposition to a reactionary movement that uses criticisms of Islamism to pursue a right-wing anti-migrant agenda, but they remain silent about the role of the leading European figure in that movement. In short, like most of the WPI's initiatives, Enemies Not Allies is a fraud.

    .....................................................
    You might ask whether it is worth paying so much attention to an obscure political sect like the WPI. But the group has exercised some influence in the recent period, with Namazie emerging as a minor media personality. Her profile was raised in 2005 when she won the Secularist of the Year award, which resulted in a gushing profile by Nick Cohen in the Observer. In 2006 she was one of a dozen prominent figures who signed a statement denouncing Islamism as "the new totalitarianism". Namazie has been interviewed by the Times, and she has written for the New Statesman and the Guardian – liberal publications that would draw the line at allowing an anti-Muslim right-winger to attack Islam in the way that Namazie does. The WPI therefore plays a not insignificant role in providing a "progressive" cover for the prevailing right-wing Islamophobic discourse. The publication of Enemies Not Allies has at least offered an opportunity to expose the irrationality and hypocrisy of this poisonous little gang of pseudo-leftists.

    That is watJIHAD AGAINST ISLAMOPHOBES writes on on  Maryam and her  "One Law For All".. Good stuff..good stuff.  And I want to say to this ""poisonous little gang of pseudo-leftists.".,  as long as it is only writing on web "NOT DEATH THREATS & Fatwas " as she is open in public and face potential danger from hereos of Islam.,  It is O.k to write against "only law for all"  or Sharia law for all or Islamic law for all

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     Reply #9 - September 03, 2011, 09:52 PM

    Put your ear near the mike whilst you're recording and note what you hear.  If there's extraneous sound, like central heating noise, you may notice it but if it's echo you'll need curtains or egg boxes to kill it.

    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • One Law For All - Anne Marie Waters - Shari'ah Law & British Law
     Reply #10 - May 14, 2014, 06:04 PM

    Anne Marie Waters has moved on to UKIP and the far right ....

    http://www.onelawforall.org.uk/anne-marie-waters-is-leaving-post-of-spokesperson/

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    As you all know, Co-Spokesperson Anne Marie Waters resigned in November 2013. What you don’t know is that her resignation followed more recent political disagreements on some key issues, including One Law for All’s refusal to collaborate with the members of racist and far-Right groups and our insistence on the need to distinguish between Muslims/immigrants and Islamists. “Walking a Tightrope: Between a Pro-Islamist Left and the far-Right” was written in response to the disagreements in question.

    Given the context of Anne Marie’s resignation, her initiation of “Sharia Watch” and her leaving the Labour Party and joining UKIP as a candidate should be seen as an attempt at organising a “respectable” rightwing response to the issue of Sharia law and the furtherance of a politics that is diametrically at odds with One Law for All’s. As I mentioned in “Walking a Tightrope”, whilst frustration and a sense of betrayal at the Pro-Islamist Left is understandable, finding solace in and partnership with the racist Right and far-Right is not.

    Since its establishment last month, Sharia Watch has publicised links like “Muslim Rape Culture” from the ghastly Frontpage Magazine, given updates on the far-Right Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller and the English Defence League, publicised videos like “Sacrificing our Daughters: On the Psychology of Islamic Rape Gangs”, and written a piece on how halal meat funds terrorism!

    We want to make very clear that we have no links with Sharia Watch, UKIP or Anne Marie Waters and will oppose their brand of racist hate politics every step of the way.

    One Law for All is proud of the broad-based coalition of secular Muslim, ex-Muslim, non-Muslim, atheist…  groups and individuals it has helped shape over nearly 6 years of organising and activism. As is very clear from our work, our fight is not just a fight against Sharia; it is first and foremost a fight against Islamism and the religious-Right as well as countering racism and for equality, universal and citizenship rights, international solidarity, and secularism.


    Comment from Nick Cohen: http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/nick-cohen/2014/05/how-to-be-a-traitor/
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